When and escort gets greedy

[Despardo]

Recently, I approached an escort by email--several exchanges took place. I do not host, so the fact that the escort was staying a considerable distance away gave me pause, but I decided to pursue the contact anyway. I was very upfront and detailed about what I was into, and put great emphasis on wanting to bring him to climax. No problem. Then, after making the appointment, I got an email from him saying that he was not always able to cum and wondered if that would be a deal breaker. OK, not happy, but guess I can understand that. Here is the good part. For $50 extra, he would guarantee me a cum shot. I told him that under the circumstances I had decided to pass. Then comes the follow up email in which he tells me that he is feeling pretty horny today, so he is now pretty sure he will be able to climax without the up-charge, which offer I politely declined.

 

Upshot is, aside even from the outrageous attempt at price gouging, when things start to get complicated, the client can rapidly lose interest.

[kaboom35]

An escort not cumming is a dealbreaker for me. Yes, there have been times that an escort did NOT cum when I was with them but it wasn't discussed beforehand so it was my fault. But I do usually ask the escort if he cums with clients and if says no, I do not make an appointment. I have been told by an escort before that a cumshot would be extra money as well. No thanks...I can find an escort that cums and its included in the base rate

[+ azdr0710]

a popular, now retired, escort once told me his policy is no cumshot except on overnight$...no exception$.....

[+ Robster]

I love the part about how he's not always able to cum, but for $50 extra, he can guarantee it!

 

Rob

[Despardo]

An escort not cumming is a dealbreaker for me. Yes, there have been times that an escort did NOT cum when I was with them but it wasn't discussed beforehand so it was my fault. But I do usually ask the escort if he cums with clients and if says no, I do not make an appointment. I have been told by an escort before that a cumshot would be extra money as well. No thanks...I can find an escort that cums and its included in the base rate

Not being able to cum during the session can happen--only human. Don't see that extra cash should be the determining factor, nor should it be part of the escort's price structure (at least not directly.) Sometimes when the advertised rate is "ask me," I will describe what it is I want and ask how much that scenario would be. I think that is fair, since an escort should be able to adjust rates depending on how demanding the client may be or if specialties are involved-- e.g. from vanilla to god only know what. I'm with you, for me cumming is a deal breaker, although I have had fun with escorts who did not cum as it turned out, but were satisfying in other ways.

[Despardo]

I love the part about how he's not always able to cum, but for $50 extra, he can guarantee it!

 

Rob

Yeah, that really got me, at which point I was looking for a graceful way to cancel.

[m.yi]

I had an expensive lesson late last year when an escort told me (in the middle of our session) that he doesn't cum with clients. Argh!

[+ Robster]

I had an expensive lesson late last year when an escort told me (in the middle of our session) that he doesn't cum with clients. Argh!

Wow. Reminds me of the scene in "In & Out" where Kevin Kline comes out to Joan Cusack just as they're about to get married.

"Was there, oh, ANY OTHER TIME YOU MIGHT HAVE TOLD ME THIS?"

 

Rob

[rvwnsd]

I love the part about how he's not always able to cum, but for $50 extra, he can guarantee it!

 

Rob

Sounds like someone would be willing not to save himself for another client (or not JO) for $50.

[+ purplekow]

$50 seems fair as he could probably get that at a local sperm bank.

Although I like it when an escort comes, I like it better when I come so, that really is worth the price of admission. If he wants to split the popcorn with me, then he can come too.

[rvwnsd]

$50 seems fair as he could probably get that at a local sperm bank...

 

ROFLMFAO

[ZhenXBear]

And just when I thought the "Is it okay to walk up to an Escort in public and ask to hire them" thread was the only one that was going to get a '' face out of me this week....

[+ quoththeraven]

To be fair, not only are escorts often seeing more than one person a day, they are conditioned to stay hard for as long as possible, which often means it takes time and effort to come. That's why it's far more likely to happen in an extended session, or the last session of the day, than randomly.

 

I can see where, in exchange for more money, an escort might be willing to arrange things so he can come at a time he might not otherwise. But it also strikes me as incredibly tacky upselling when done after the appointment's been made and the issue discussed. (It's also likely to be achieved at the expense of other clients.) What would have served the escort better is a frank discussion beforehand about scheduling and what's realistic.

 

I think the ability to get and stay hard is more vital than whether they can come. The problem here is that while an escort can make it more likely to happen, he can't unequivocally guarantee that he will come in any given session, and as much of a turn-on as it is for clients (me included), clients need to recognize that insisting on it will only lead to situations like this. Be accepting of the uncertainty, be your sexiest self during the session, and what you want is more likely to happen. Building a rapport with an escort can help, too.

 

Also, all the emphasis on selling a fantasy makes it more, not less, likely that an escort will schedule a session hoping to make it work rather than being frank about it to begin with. The fantasy starts when the session begins (or when the sexy part of the session begins). Before that, truth and authenticity will get both parties a lot further than the game playing this escort apparently felt he needed to engage in to get the client's business. I don't think greed was the biggest problem here.

[wklucas]

I absolutely enjoy (& mostly) expect the guy to cum (safely) inside me.....(& then collapse on top of me spent).....one regular who I made an "exception" with - whether it was true or not (but I think that it was true), he said that he really had a hard time cumming while wearing a condom....this was from his past "training" or experiences doing porn & needing to hold off cumming for extended periods.....we would simply fuck for a long time, then he would pull out, rip off the condom & always pretty quickly shoot somewhere on my body......(I only stopped seeing him when the hairy 6'4" / 230 lb stud for some reason shaved his bod & went with some (to my eyes) unattractive tattoos)

[+ purplekow]

I absolutely enjoy (& mostly) expect the guy to cum (safely) inside me.....(& then collapse on top of me spent).....one regular who I made an "exception" with - whether it was true or not (but I think that it was true), he said that he really had a hard time cumming while wearing a condom....this was from his past "training" or experiences doing porn & needing to hold off cumming for extended periods.....we would simply fuck for a long time, then he would pull out, rip off the condom & always pretty quickly shoot somewhere on my body......(I only stopped seeing him when the hairy 6'4" / 230 lb stud for some reason shaved his bod & went with some (to my eyes) unattractive tattoos)

AH, if a man is going to come, I prefer it be on me rather than in me. That probably relates to thousands of emissions of a hot spew landing somewhere on me. (Yeah they were mostly mine)

[Frequentflier]

Depending on the rate the OP had initially agreed to, maybe an extra $50 isn't "greedy". While I know that guys I hire aren't interested in the money, because I'm so charming and handsome, I know some companions make themselves available primarily for economic reasons.

[cmennow]

I find that those who can't or don't cum are on their way (or at least hoping) to another appointment. I have a regular who is young and can cum several times a day so it happens every time we meet not matter what time of the day (I especially like him LOL). Then there is another who is a little older and has beeen upfront that if he does cum that his reboudn time will put him out of business for a while. Though when we have gotten together and he has no other prospects for the evening he's shot off like a cannon. Then there is the one that said he couldn't cum orally. After several repeat sessions with him, I broke him of that jibberish and we established a connection where he looked forward to cumming when with me. But I will agree that I'm more concerned with performance throughout the session because I have been with someone who had trouble achieving an erection and then once he got it came in 2 seconds flat. Needless to say that was a flat session in my books and he didn't get to cum back!

[marylander1940]

An escort not cumming is a dealbreaker for me. Yes, there have been times that an escort did NOT cum when I was with them but it wasn't discussed beforehand so it was my fault. But I do usually ask the escort if he cums with clients and if says no, I do not make an appointment. I have been told by an escort before that a cumshot would be extra money as well. No thanks...I can find an escort that cums and its included in the base rate

 

What if an escort can't cum because it would take him a long time and you're not willing to wait?

 

Where do you ask the escort to cum?

 

If I was you I'd be careful about getting into that kind of details about paying for certain sexual acts. The NSA is listening...

[marylander1940]

Depending on the rate the OP had initially agreed to, maybe an extra $50 isn't "greedy". While I know that guys I hire aren't interested in the money, because I'm so charming and handsome, I know some companions make themselves available primarily for economic reasons.

 

I agree with you!

It's not greedy at all, it's common sense.

if you want it, pay for it maybe the escort will need to take a full pill of Viagra a couple of hours later to fuck a 300 pound guy called Bubba...

 

[Butch_Planetjockboys]

Sometimes being told he has to makes it a stressful appointment which doesn't help that happen. I recall a client who had this requirement and I told him if he just keeps it to himself chances are it will happen naturally. But he wasn't satisfied with that. He brought it up to the model, who then in turn, became anxious about it. A model that this had never been a problem for... He explained to the client that him continually saying, "are you going to cum" wasn't helping matters. Think on his feet, the model suggested the client top him, as that stimulated him. The client agreed and the escort then started saying, "are you gonna get hard? why aren't you hard yet? is something wrong? why can't you get hard?" the client then understood its best to just let things happen.

[+ Chris Eisenhower]

He explained to the client that him continually saying, "are you going to cum" wasn't helping matters. Think on his feet, the model suggested the client top him, as that stimulated him. The client agreed and the escort then started saying, "are you gonna get hard? why aren't you hard yet? is something wrong? why can't you get hard?" the client then understood its best to just let things happen.

 

Ding. Questions don't excite me. Moans and groans (real ones) excite me.

[Despardo]

The escort I mentioned had a wide open schedule, I was his last (only?) appointment of the day, and he had accepted my expectations before we made the specific appointment. The $50 upcharge came in a later email in the form of, "Oh, by the way..." After reading the comments above, I can see many valid points--multiple appointments, pacing, etc. On the other hand, I have hired plenty of escorts who have had absolutely no problems cumming like a fountain. Upshot is, some do, some don't, some can, some can't, and it could easily depend on how the guy is feeling that day, either physically or mentally. Good business practice (salesmanship) suggests, however, that changing the deal, placing too many conditions on the client, sounding unenthusiastic, seeming profoundly disorganized, or throwing the customer a curve is a really good way to lose a sale. True in any business. The real pros in this business, whom I totally respect, go out of their way to make the client feel important, feed the client's fantasy, and make themselves seem desirable.

[Butch_Planetjockboys]

The escort I mentioned had a wide open schedule, I was his last (only?) appointment of the day, and he had accepted my expectations before we made the specific appointment. The $50 upcharge came in a later email in the form of, "Oh, by the way..." After reading the comments above, I can see many valid points--multiple appointments, pacing, etc. On the other hand, I have hired plenty of escorts who have had absolutely no problems cumming like a fountain. Upshot is, some do, some don't, some can, some can't, and it could easily depend on how the guy is feeling that day, either physically or mentally. Good business practice (salesmanship) suggests, however, that changing the deal, placing too many conditions on the client, sounding unenthusiastic, seeming profoundly disorganized, or throwing the customer a curve is a really good way to lose a sale. True in any business. The real pros in this business, whom I totally respect, go out of their way to make the client feel important, feed the client's fantasy, and make themselves seem desirable.

 

Remind him that that 50.00 could have gotten him a prostitution charge also...

[Bart]

First I find the fact that the guy actually said he can cum for an extra $50 a big mood killer and just a negotiation ploy which I do not partake in. Like you, I would never meet with the guy.

 

Second a question cums, I mean comes to mind-

 

If cumming is a key are you satisfied if you get one of the two results

A. the gentleman says in first 20 min of appt I can cum now, no guarantee of it happening later balance of appt is cuddle some massage and conversation or

B. do you prefer the full appt filled with sex and no cum shot?

 

I ask as I have had plenty of gentlemen cum but lets say they have only fucked for 10 min after some good foreplay and 30 min into appt. but the sex has been hot. I usually say go with the moment and cum and I can feel the energy surge through his body as lets it go while fucking me. We just cuddle and chill balance of appt. and that works for me.

 

Personally I put less emphasis on cumming. At the recommendation of a gentleman I know, I have for the past year when meeting new gentlemen that cumming is not a key element for either of us. While I would love a guy to cum while fucking me, many have told me cumming with a condom and fucking is difficult for them. Most want to cum and its fine, but the usual question is "where or how do you want me to cum which is not my favorite question as I am not thrilled with guy shooting on me or worse my face. Not really a fan of the taste either.

 

Anyway just curious if you would take A or B, for me I will take B every time.

[kaboom35]

A. the gentleman says in first 20 min of appt I can cum now, no guarantee of it happening later balance of appt is cuddle some massage and conversation or

B. do you prefer the full appt filled with sex and no cum shot?

 

I would take "A". I guess its different strokes for different folks. As long as he can finish out the session with making out and stuff...It wouldn't matter to me. I will ALWAYS prefer a cumshot as I said its a dealbreaker when an escort tells me they don't "cum with clients". I will not book an appointment.

 

There is one escort I see who has been able to cum two to three times in an hour session and it drives me wild. That's why i've seen him like 20 times or so. Obviously he's a rare breed.