"Airbnb'ing" your property to an escort?

[+ dutchmuch]

Would you knowingly do such a thing? Fast forward, me not!

I recently saw an escort at a condo he had rented via Airbnb to perform his services. It bordered on being a luxury property, and the owners stuff was everywhere. Family photos and personal possessions, all the way down to knick knacks. Personally I felt uncomfortable being there in this arrangement, a sex worker using someone else's digs to copulate clients.

 

Nothing to say of the constant 'hourly' traffic coming and going from this venue, I was told to be quiet when leaving so as to not upset the neighbors. Or tip the neighbors off?

 

Anyone?

[marylander1940]

Would you knowingly do such a thing? Fast forward, me not!

I recently saw an escort at a condo he had rented via Airbnb to perform his services. It bordered on being a luxury property, and the owners stuff was everywhere. Family photos and personal possessions, all the way down to knick knacks. Personally I felt uncomfortable being there in this arrangement, a sex worker using someone else's digs to copulate clients.

 

Nothing to say of the constant 'hourly' traffic coming and going from this venue, I was told to be quiet when leaving so as to not upset the neighbors. Or tip the neighbors off?

 

Anyone?

 

I would be uncomfortable renting a property to an escort. I do know a local guy who rents if I his basement apartment to visiting escorts in exchange for a special deal. It's a basement apartment and the escort pays with "nature's credit card"... One fuck per day.

 

Many buildings have rules against people subleasing their apartment/condominium for days or weeks to visitors because of traffic, noise, etc.

 

I don't know if the owner of the property knew about the business of the visitor, I guess he doesn't, but I'm shocked he didn't remove all the personal objects from his rental property, possibly he lives there and only rents it when he's out of town.

Edited May 21, 2015 by marylander1940

[instudiocity]

In order to get a required business license in LA, I had to submit a document stating the amount of traffic I expected at my home. Fortunately they didn't ask about after hours providers.

[+ SundayZip]

I would have a problem with anyone using my condo as their place of business, especially if there were lots of strangers coming and going.

 

But what about the other way around? Is it okay for a client who is renting an airbnb apartment to invite an escort over? This is certainly something I've been known to do, although before renting I usually tell the airbnb owner that I have friends in town and ask if it's ok to occasionally invite someone over for coffee or dinner.

[bigvalboy]

I would be uncomfortable renting a property to an escort. I do know a local guy who rents if I his basement apartment to visiting escorts in exchange for a special deal. It's a basement apartment and the escort pays with "nature's credit card"... One fuck per day.

 

Many buildings have rules against people subleasing their apartment/condominium for days or weeks to visitors because of traffic, noise, etc.

 

I don't know if the owner of the property knew about the business of the visitor, I guess he doesn't, but I'm shocked he didn't remove all the personal objects from his rental property, possibly he lives there and only rents it when he's out of town.

 

This is an interesting situation where technology has outpaced the rules and regulations from many HOA's. Condo boards most likely have not had a chance to update their books to regulate this sort of activity. We had a similar situation recently where we quickly found out that the state of Florida has pushed back hard against HOA's wielding their authority and power. We found out that it was a gray area in the law, without definitive answers.

[Irtwo]

"nature's credit card" .... lol! That was clever, Marylander, I got to use that sometime.

[marylander1940]

This is an interesting situation where technology has outpaced the rules and regulations from many HOA's. Condo boards most likely have not had a chance to update their books to regulate this sort of activity. We had a similar situation recently where we quickly found out that the state of Florida has pushed back hard against HOA's wielding their authority and power. We found out that it was a gray area in the law, without definitive answers.

 

Internet made it possible.

 

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view7/3133101/mouse-scares-cat-o.gif

[+ dutchmuch]

But what about the other way around? Is it okay for a client who is renting an airbnb apartment to invite an escort over? This is certainly something I've been known to do, although before renting I usually tell the airbnb owner that I have friends in town and ask if it's ok to occasionally invite someone over for coffee or dinner.

 

Well you certainly have interesting coffees and dinners with 'friends'.

[Frequentflier]

I own a few condos as investments. My leases are a minimum of one year. Every one of the HOAs has a rental policy and AIRBNB wouldn't be allowed (some have minimum rental periods of 6 months or one year). Those policies have been reviewed by local attorneys.

 

I think its completely inappropriate if an escort uses someone's property through AIRBNB to meet clients, unless (unlikely) the owner agreed to it. I don't even allow my tenants to smoke 420 in states where its legal for recreational use - and yes a landlord can prohibit it (as he/she can smoking) in particular because its still illegal at the Federal level. My leases make it very clear that any illegal activity is prohibited and grounds for eviction - something any property owner wants to be able to point to in case their tenant is busted as a way to defend against the government seizing property (which some/many overzealous prosecutors like to do).

[marylander1940]

I would have a problem with anyone using my condo as their place of business, especially if there were lots of strangers coming and going.

 

But what about the other way around? Is it okay for a client who is renting an airbnb apartment to invite an escort over? This is certainly something I've been known to do, although before renting I usually tell the airbnb owner that I have friends in town and ask if it's ok to occasionally invite someone over for coffee or dinner.

 

You're smart, better to warn than to lie and get caught...

[marylander1940]

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I think its completely inappropriate if an escort uses someone's property through AIRBNB to meet clients, unless (unlikely) the owner agreed to it... My leases make it very clear that any illegal activity is prohibited and grounds for eviction - something any property owner wants to be able to point to in case their tenant is busted as a way to defend against the government seizing property (which some/many overzealous prosecutors like to do).

 

Is it more appropriate for an escort to see clients at a hotel room?

 

I understand your point of view as landlord, I'm also aware that in some jurisdictions if the owner knew of any illegal activity like the sell or manufacturing of drugs (meth, oxy, etc) the cops can just confiscate the property.

[+ dutchmuch]

You're smart, better to warn than to lie and get caught...

 

Sarcasm?

[marylander1940]

Sarcasm?

 

No, better to say btw this might happy, instead of promising, I'll never do anything like receiving friends at home.

 

Btw, how do the renters know he's not hosting/housing more guys in the same place and all guests are just arriving and leaving?

[bigvalboy]

I own a few condos as investments. My leases are a minimum of one year. Every one of the HOAs has a rental policy and AIRBNB wouldn't be allowed (some have minimum rental periods of 6 months or one year). Those policies have been reviewed by local attorneys.

 

I think its completely inappropriate if an escort uses someone's property through AIRBNB to meet clients, unless (unlikely) the owner agreed to it. I don't even allow my tenants to smoke 420 in states where its legal for recreational use - and yes a landlord can prohibit it (as he/she can smoking) in particular because its still illegal at the Federal level. My leases make it very clear that any illegal activity is prohibited and grounds for eviction - something any property owner wants to be able to point to in case their tenant is busted as a way to defend against the government seizing property (which some/many overzealous prosecutors like to do).

 

Curious FF...going forward, will you add language to your leases that specifically name AIRBNB as being prohibited, or do you think that they your leases are fine as they are. Our HOA is currently revising all of our Rules and Regs to meet current state laws, and we are going to specifically name Airbnb as being prohibited.

[dcguy20]

I own in a very small condo building. Half of the units in the building are rented out, much to the chagrin to those of us who own and reside in the building. A year or so ago, I noticed various strangers coming and going with suitcases into the unit next to mine (which happened to be rented out). One evening as I was exiting my unit I ran into two such Air BnB customers who were entering that particular unit, and asked how which website they used. They confirmed Air BnB. We already had language in our condo rules and regulations about temporary renters, but we have since updated them specifically spelling out about renting through various websites such as Air BnB. Needless to say the owner of that unit was fined and the tenant thrown out. Upon renting, Tenant's are supposed to sign and acknowledge that they've read and understood our rules and regulations.

 

I am not comfortable seeing an escort or massuer in a property they're staying at through those kind of sites, and have turned down seeing guys because of that.

 

Being on the other end of having a lot of strangers coming and going next door, I find it a little troublesome to say the least.

[Frequentflier]

Curious FF...going forward, will you add language to your leases that specifically name AIRBNB as being prohibited, or do you think that they your leases are fine as they are. Our HOA is currently revising all of our Rules and Regs to meet current state laws, and we are going to specifically name Airbnb as being prohibited.

 

The HOAs I own in just made sure the rental policy (that all owners have to abide by) includes a minimum term. By doing that they felt it covered the issue whether its Airbnb or VRBO or another business that may not exist today but for which you want your policy to apply. May not hurt to mention Airbnb as an example (the HOAs I'm a part of didn't specifically mention Airbnb or VRBO.

[anotherjohnindupont]

Well you certainly have interesting coffees and dinners with 'friends'.

 

yes friends that look like his dad or grandpa. Lol

[+ dutchmuch]

San Francisco police search for woman accused of stealing more than $35,000 in goods from Airbnb house she rented

• Jana Dominquez, 27, is accused of breaking into a locked closet and office to make off with valuable goods from a home she rented on Airbnb in April
  
• She's also accused of ransacking a business located on the first level of the home
  

 

 

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3184308/San-Francisco-police-search-woman-accused-stealing-35-000-goods-Airbnb-house-rented.html#ixzz3hnvfQxIR

[rvwnsd]

The HOAs I own in just made sure the rental policy (that all owners have to abide by) includes a minimum term. By doing that they felt it covered the issue whether its Airbnb or VRBO or another business that may not exist today but for which you want your policy to apply. May not hurt to mention Airbnb as an example (the HOAs I'm a part of didn't specifically mention Airbnb or VRBO.

 

The HOA at the condo I own felt the same way. We have a minimum term of 30 days, which we believe prevents an owner from renting their condo on a short-term basis via airbnb.

[Lookin]

Btw, how do the renters know he's not hosting/housing more guys in the same place and all guests are just arriving and leaving?

 

http://i.imgur.com/KGYl6m4.jpeg

[OneFinger]

The HOA at the condo I own felt the same way. We have a minimum term of 30 days, which we believe prevents an owner from renting their condo on a short-term basis via airbnb.

Same with my condo in Oregon.

[+ Unicorn]

What a nutty idea to rent one's home to a stranger...

http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2015/08/03/house-guest-allegedly-stole-more-than-35k-in-valuables-from-rental-home/

 

http://www.foxnews.com/travel/2014/05/08/10-incredible-airbnb-horror-stories/

 

http://www.airbnbhell.com/tag/airbnb-nightmare/

[AdamSmith]

What a nutty idea to rent one's home to a stranger...

 

Hubby and I had a weekend seaside home full of antiques and art that we rented out by the week using Homeaway and VRBO. Over eight years, renting it out a few weeks each summer brought in over $100,000, with never a speck of trouble. Pricing it at $3600/week and taking a sizable security deposit may have helped screen out the riffraff. And having a housekeeper whom guests knew would be there to see them in, and again to see the place as they checked out.

 

Life can be a lot more enjoyable if you approach risk by realistically assessing and mitigating it, not straining to eliminate it at any cost. The gentleman in black with the formaldehyde pump will help us out with the latter only too soon.

Edited August 4, 2015 by AdamSmith

[+ quoththeraven]

There are people who live near summer getaways like Saratoga Springs who rent their houses for big bucks and go away on vacation, pocketing the profit. It's not that uncommon.

[Guest Wetnwildbear]

Would you knowingly do such a thing? Fast forward, me not!

I recently saw an escort at a condo he had rented via Airbnb to perform his services. It bordered on being a luxury property, and the owners stuff was everywhere. Family photos and personal possessions, all the way down to knick knacks. Personally I felt uncomfortable being there in this arrangement, a sex worker using someone else's digs to copulate clients.

 

Nothing to say of the constant 'hourly' traffic coming and going from this venue, I was told to be quiet when leaving so as to not upset the neighbors. Or tip the neighbors off?

 

Anyone?

 

hmmm -- I have been thinking about KinkBnB- ing my space ==