Cialis or Viagra?

[marylander1940]

I know Cialis last 1 1/2 day and Viagra just 4 hours, that's why the first one is called the "weekend pill". I must admit I feel a more natural erection with Cialis, is like I'm 14 again, while Viagra gives me a hard on that sometimes doesn't feel right.

 

I'm aware that many of you may don't need to use it, but if you're hiring and time is limited, better safe than sorry.

[+ Funguy]

I know Cialis last 1 1/2 day and Viagra just 4 hours, that's why the first one is called the "weekend pill". I must admit I feel a more natural erection with Cialis, is like I'm 14 again, while Viagra gives me a hard on that sometimes doesn't feel right.

 

I'm aware that many of you may don't need to use it, but if you're hiring and time is limited, better safe than sorry.

 

I don't use it so I can't comment re: differences with erections but Cialis comes in two forms - 1 to be used daily, the other is good for 36 hours. Therefore, the choice is made by level of sexual activity.

You are right re: duration of action with viagra.

 

I have heard, also, exactly what you say re: how you may feel. My friends (who admit it) and patients prefer cialis, especially with the choice of strengths.

 

Make sure however that you don't have issues with blood pressure, etc. and that you DO NOT CUT THE PILLS. In other words, don't order 20 mg and break in half to have more pills.

 

Good luck.

 

One other consideration: have your FREE testosterone checked. Though the addition of testosterone does not take care of all of Erectile Dysfuction, it sure can increase DESIRE which adds to overcoming E.D.

[+ Travis69]

Make sure however that you don't have issues with blood pressure, etc. and that you DO NOT CUT THE PILLS. In other words, don't order 20 mg and break in half to have more pills.

 

I cut the Viagra pills. What does this do that is bad?

[+ purplekow]

 

One other consideration: have your FREE testosterone checked. Though the addition of testosterone does not take care of all of Erectile Dysfuction, it sure can increase DESIRE which adds to overcoming E.D.

 

Funguy, are you really suggesting that the men on this site need increased desire? i dare say that for most men here, that is not likely the case. Performance anxiety certainly some do. Desire? Why bother coming here?

As far as Cialis vs Viagra, "I am not only the president, i am a client" Sy Sims Hairclub for men.

 

For some men, 5 mg of Cialis is great for daily use and for downsizing the prostate, but for others, not effective in either regard. The 20 mg Cialis taken when needed every 2 days at the most often, does have the reputation for assisting erectile dysfunction for 2 days but that response is different in each individual. When I take Cialis, 20 mg, i am easily aroused to full erection very easily for two days but it may take as long as 8 hours to kick in. As a result, I usually take it the night before an encounter and most times, I will wake up with an erection which is easily revived for the next two days. As it turns out, with 100 mg Viagra, i get the same two day effect and with a much shorter delay in the effect. I would agree that breaking the pills has some effect on the absorption, those biting into Viagra seems to make it work even more quickly, though you have a bitter taste with it. The bitter before the sweet. Side effects are more like with the biting and broken medication, so you need to be aware of that. After experimenting around, I have found that a 5 mg Cialis and a 50 mg Viagra gives me, and this is not a professional recommendation, this is for information only, the best combination of quick onset, minimal side effects, usually a post orgasm headache for about 5 minutes, and prolonged effect.

i also watch my diet, as many foods delay the onset, and I never use alcohol with these medications.

I should add, that some of the effect is based on increased confidence and decreased anxiety. I have had occasions when, after a great session, I have found the medication the I forgot to take and I was giving credit to the pills when it was all me, stud that I am lol.

[Phil_musc]

PK, do yo mean 5 mg of cialis taken together with 50 mg of Viagra? A kind of cocktail thing-y?

[+ purplekow]

PK, do yo mean 5 mg of cialis taken together with 50 mg of Viagra? A kind of cocktail thing-y?

Yes a little of this and a little of that turns out to be all that. Once again, this works for me but it is definitely not the recommended prescription instructions.

[+ Funguy]

I cut the Viagra pills. What does this do that is bad?

 

Different release rate but then if on the lower dosage, it shouldn't matter.

Not having used either, I can't comment on efficacy.

[+ Funguy]

Funguy, are you really suggesting that the men on this site need increased desire? i dare say that for most men here, that is not likely the case. Performance anxiety certainly some do. Desire? Why bother coming here? QUOTE]

 

It's not so much increased desire but increased performance, as well. It is amazing what the addition of Testosterone will do to libido IF YOUR DESIRE (LIBIDO) IS LESS THAN YOU WANT IT TO BE AND your levels are low. There is, however, a difference between libido and E.D. so those with ONLY E.D. will do well by cialis or viagra.

I'm 66, before i started replacement my libido could use a kick in the pants no matter how many times I looked at this site. Now it's up, literally, I feel AND PERFORM like I was 30. Sort of like Jawjateck and Okliehomo, I guess!

 

And there are a few escorts who could validate this.

[rocky]

Greetings; you know if you haven't used either then responding isn't adding value to this discussion is it? I've used both and found with viagra more of a reaction, i.e. some eye sit colors and later erections. But I stopped using both although at 60 I should since I'm not as spry as I use to. Reason was insurance and doctors office; everytime I went in to see my doctor I'd get, "so still using viagra?" from the nurse, and " is this a part of your regular regiment?" So I figure I hire a hot guy and if I get erect I do.

[Guest]

" is this a part of your regular regiment?"

 

Here's a regiment I'd like to do!

http://img.dictionary.com/regiment-150831-400-238.jpg

 

You should always let ALL of your doctors know everything you're taking, including vitamins, minerals, and herbal products, because some medications and even supplements interact. This even includes ophthalmologists. So don't be embarrassed by your doctors asking your entire medication regimen, because they're just being thorough. In fact, I would be wary of any doctor who didn't make such inquiries.

As for the difference between Cialis, Levitra, and Viagra, the main difference between them is that Cialis lasts longer (basically two days), and Viagra (but not the other two) needs to be taken on an empty stomach. In other words, if you have dinner, then take the Viagra, then have sex, you're going to cut Viagra's efficacy down substantially. Viagra is somewhat safer with alpha blockers (medications whose names end with "azosin"). All three can be deadly with medications which include nitrates, including Isordil or Imdur. None of these medication pills has a time-release mechanism, so all three can be split. This is actually done by most patients, since the middle dose works for most patients, and insurance most often does not cover the cost. You could take any of the three in the morning, and have them work well in the evening (you might get some extra attention that day, though), but only Cialis will still be working the following day and evening. Cialis and Levitra are somewhat easier to split due to the round pill shape. If you're not taking an alpha blocker, I would just take whichever works best. But it is important to remember to take Viagra before you eat any meal. I find that most doctors forget to mention this when prescribing Viagra.

[Guest]

PK, do yo mean 5 mg of cialis taken together with 50 mg of Viagra? A kind of cocktail thing-y?

 

All three of these medications work by the same mechanism, so you're better off increasing the dose of one, instead of mixing them up. If you mix them up, whichever has a higher affinity for the molecule/enzyme it's blocking will take over, and it's not necessarily the more effective one. I once had a patient not listen to my (or the nurse's) instructions, or read our written after-visit summary, and the patient took both the weaker cholesterol medication she had previously been prescribed in addition to the stronger one to which I had switched her. It turned out that the weaker medication prevailed when I rechecked the cholesterol levels. When she stopped the weaker one and continued the stronger one, the cholesterol fell substantially. That's one of the reasons I have patients bring in all of their medication bottles to all visits--so I can be sure they're taking what I think they're taking (i.e. what I have in my records).

[Steven_Draker]

Of the 3 drugs for male sexual dysfunction, Viagra, Levitra and Cialis, Cialis is the most toxic to the liver, and carries the strongest warning:

 

http://www.webmd.com/erectile-dysfunction/guide/cialis-levitra-staxyn-viagra-treat-ed

 

With all due respect to the valued contributors in this thread, an anonymous Internet Message Board might not be the best place to seek medical advice.

 

 

... better safe than sorry.

 

http://www.freakingnews.com/pictures/23000/Viagra--23173.jpg

[Guest]

I stand corrected in that the source Steven gives says that Viagra and Levitra work for only 4 to 5 hours, respectively.

[+ purplekow]

Though they all work via the same mechanism the side effects of the medications are different and lower doses of two medication may be more effective for a particular indivisual then the higher and potentially more side effect ridden higher dose of one medication. Once again, this is not the way the medications are prescribed, this is not FDA approved, and I am not suggesting it will work for others, but as describe, anecdotely it has been more effective for me.

[Rudynate]

I know Cialis last 1 1/2 day and Viagra just 4 hours, that's why the first one is called the "weekend pill". I must admit I feel a more natural erection with Cialis, is like I'm 14 again, while Viagra gives me a hard on that sometimes doesn't feel right.

 

I'm aware that many of you may don't need to use it, but if you're hiring and time is limited, better safe than sorry.

 

I get 20 mg. sildenafil (viagra) pills from the doc and combine with 10 mg. Levitra - amazing!! 20 mg sildenafil is the generic for Revatio, a treatment for pulmonary hypertension.

[unsub2O17]

I'm with PK on this. After much experimentation, I've worked out a time schedule and dosage for a Viagra/Cialis combination that works when I need it to, has no side affects, and is "gone" in less than 12 hours. Works well for me.

[+ Gar1eth]

My experience- and of course Steven is right about this Forum not being the best place for advice- but it's certainly ok to use this thread to generate some questions for your own doctor- but as I said my experiences/readings

 

1. My urologist gave me a sample of Cialis a long time ago. I don't remember the strength. I took it one evening when I didn't have anything planned. I don't remember any effect at all. Now I know the medications aren't supposed to work in the absence of stimulation, but my prior experience with Viagra had shown me that I could usually feel some small effect if I took it and then nothing panned out about meeting someone. One urologist told me that Cialis was the weakest of the ED drugs- I guess he meant comparing them on the average doses taken of each. Now obviously everyone's bodies and enzymes are probably a bit different- so one drug may work better for you than another- or they might all work equally well.

 

2. Sildenafil (Viagra) is also used for a disease called pulmonary hypertension. The trade name of sildenafil for this disease is called Revatio. The pill is only 20 mg. But the good thing is that there is a generic 20 mg that is much cheaper than name brand Viagra. Sure you may have to take 5 pills to equal a Viagra dose of 100 mg. But I was able to buy 60 for about $ 45.00 at Walmart using a coupon from this website ( by the way this is a good website for looking up cheaper drug prices in many cases if your insurance coverage for medications isn't that good)

http://m.goodrx.com/

 

Now it's possible that the generic sildenafil might take a little longer to dissolve and get into your system- or it might be quicker. You would need to experiment.

 

3. 'Male Clinics'/ED Treatment Clinics always tout their own formulations of the ED drugs- made by 'compounding' pharmacies into troches. These troches are the drug made up into a dissolvable square. It has a vertical and horizontal score on it- so that you could split it into 4 pieces. They are made to be placed under the tongue and absorbed directly into the bloodstream without being digested by the stomach or intestines first. ED clinics say they work better. They also wanted to charge about $1000 for 60 of them. I called a local compounding pharmacy. I think the price they gave me was $3.00 a troche for sildenafil. If you can find a compounding pharmacy in your area and your doctor will give you a prescription for them, you can experiment to see if these work better for you. My local compounding pharmacy only compounded sildenafil. The ED Clinic reportedly had troches made up of all the ED drugs.

 

4. Vardenafil (Levitra) comes in a dissolvable tablet called Staxyn. You place it on your tongue and let it dissolve. I like this better as it doesn't give me as much of a headache as Viagra. I used to keep it in the glove compartment of my car. If I at the last minute were going to meet an escort or it happened to be February 29th and I had a hook-up- I could take one of these without water. I also think it worked a bit faster for me than Viagra. And while you weren't supposed to split them in two- sometimes I would.

 

5. There is a new ED drug called Stendra (avanafil). I have no idea how it compares to the others.

 

6. Anyone with ischemic heart disease or who has had a heart attack needs to check with their doctors about using any of these drugs. Also you aren't supposed to mix them with poppers, alpha blockers, or nitrate medications (used for blood control or some forms of heart disease) as dangerously low blood pressure has been reported. And in fact if you are on any treatment for high blood pressure, these ED drugs can make your blood pressure to dangerously low. And while there are other medications that you shouldn't mix with ED drugs, some medications used to treat HIV prevent the metabolism of ED drugs and can extend their effects- and not in a good way- and can also cause dangerously low blood pressure. Bottom line is if you aren't healthy or are on other medications-ask your health care provider before using these medications.

 

Gman

[Rudynate]

My experience- and of course Steven is right about this Forum not being the best place for advice- but it's certainly ok to use this thread to generate some questions for your own doctor- but as I said my experiences/readings

 

1. My urologist gave me a sample of Cialis a long time ago. I don't remember the strength. I took it one evening when I didn't have anything planned. I don't remember any effect at all. Now I know the medications aren't supposed to work in the absence of stimulation, but my prior experience with Viagra had shown me that I could usually feel some small effect if I took it and then nothing panned out about meeting someone. One urologist told me that Cialis was the weakest of the ED drugs- I guess he meant comparing them on the average doses taken of each. Now obviously everyone's bodies and enzymes are probably a bit different- so one drug may work better for you than another- or they might all work equally well.

 

2. Sildenafil (Viagra) is also used for a disease called pulmonary hypertension. The trade name of sildenafil for this disease is called Revatio. The pill is only 20 mg. But the good thing is that there is a generic 20 mg that is much cheaper than name brand Viagra. Sure you may have to take 5 pills to equal a Viagra dose of 100 mg. But I was able to buy 60 for about $ 45.00 at Walmart using a coupon from this website ( by the way this is a good website for looking up cheaper drug prices in many cases if your insurance coverage for medications isn't that good)

http://m.goodrx.com/

 

Now it's possible that the generic sildenafil might take a little longer to dissolve and get into your system- or it might be quicker. You would need to experiment.

 

3. 'Male Clinics'/ED Treatment Clinics always tout their own formulations of the ED drugs- made by 'compounding' pharmacies into troches. These troches are the drug made up into a dissolvable square. It has a vertical and horizontal score on it- so that you could split it into 4 pieces. They are made to be placed under the tongue and absorbed directly into the bloodstream without being digested by the stomach or intestines first. ED clinics say they work better. They also wanted to charge about $1000 for 60 of them. I called a local compounding pharmacy. I think the price they gave me was $3.00 a troche for sildenafil. If you can find a compounding pharmacy in your area and your doctor will give you a prescription for them, you can experiment to see if these work better for you. My local compounding pharmacy only compounded sildenafil. The ED Clinic reportedly had troches made up of all the ED drugs.

 

4. Vardenafil (Levitra) comes in a dissolvable tablet called Staxyn. You place it on your tongue and let it dissolve. I like this better as it doesn't give me as much of a headache as Viagra. I used to keep it in the glove compartment of my car. If I at the last minute were going to meet an escort or it happened to be February 29th and I had a hook-up- I could take one of these without water. I also think it worked a bit faster for me than Viagra. And while you weren't supposed to split them in two- sometimes I would.

 

5. There is a new ED drug called Stendra (avanafil). I have no idea how it compares to the others.

 

6. Anyone with ischemic heart disease or who has had a heart attack needs to check with their doctors about using any of these drugs. Also you aren't supposed to mix them with poppers, alpha blockers, or nitrate medications (used for blood control or some forms of heart disease) as dangerously low blood pressure has been reported. And in fact if you are on any treatment for high blood pressure, these ED drugs can make your blood pressure to dangerously low. And while there are other medications that you shouldn't mix with ED drugs, some medications used to treat HIV prevent the metabolism of ED drugs and can extend their effects- and not in a good way- and can also cause dangerously low blood pressure. Bottom line is if you aren't healthy or are on other medications-ask your health care provider before using these medications.

 

Gman

 

Instead of getting troches from a compounding pharmacy, you could just chew the tablets and swallow them. Sometimes, I chew my revatio/levitra cocktail and ten minutes later, it's suddenly party time.

[+ Gar1eth]

Instead of getting troches from a compounding pharmacy, you could just chew the tablets and swallow them. Sometimes, I chew my revatio/levitra cocktail and ten minutes later, it's suddenly party time.

 

The purpose of the troches supposedly is that it bypasses the gut. Assuming that the medication is actually absorbed into the bloodstream directly that way and not just being dissolved and swallowed-is that it avoids any breakdown in the gut, avoids the loss of medication not absorbed into feces (pardon my French), and is in the bloodstream faster.

 

Gman

[rvwnsd]

I've taken Viagra, Cialis, and Levitra and liked Cialis the best. I got a headache from both Viagra and Cialis, but Levitra gave me diarrhea. The Cialis headache was not as severe as the Viagra headache and, as others have stated, my erection felt more natural from Cialis than Viagra.

[Rudynate]

The purpose of the troches supposedly is that it bypasses the gut. Assuming that the medication is actually absorbed into the bloodstream directly that way and not just being dissolved and swallowed-is that it avoids any breakdown in the gut, avoids the loss of medication not absorbed into feces (pardon my French), and is in the bloodstream faster.

 

Gman

 

True that. They might work better than chewing the pills.

[gallahadesquire]

I get 20 mg. sildenafil (viagra) pills from the doc and combine with 10 mg. Levitra - amazing!! 20 mg sildenafil is the generic for Revatio, a treatment for pulmonary hypertension.

 

But isn't the dose of Revatio something like 75 mg three times a day? And, once started, HAS to be continued. Or so I remember.

[Rudynate]

But isn't the dose of Revatio something like 75 mg three times a day? And, once started, HAS to be continued. Or so I remember.

 

I think dosing is variable according to the patient and the severity of the condition. My sister-in-law has pulmonary hypertension, and I think she takes 20 mg. 3X day.

 

I don't take the generic Revatio for pulmonary hypertension. My doc gave it to me off-label as an ED drug. You use it just as you would viagra.

[+ Trebor]

Is there any way to buy Testosterone over the counter without a perscription? Been looking for this info for awhile and haven't found anything. Found this discussion and thought I'd ask!

[bigvalboy]

Is there any way to buy Testosterone over the counter without a perscription? Been looking for this info for awhile and haven't found anything. Found this discussion and thought I'd ask!

 

Contact Funguy. He is all knowing in this department. I would try a private message first.