Does mentioning a potential review impact an escort's performance?

[phage]

RE: Does mentioning a potential review impact an escort...

 

>am i REALLY the only one who saw his post as the sarcasm it

>was?

 

No. I think it was pretty obvious to everyone except conspiracy theorists and people who tend to just see the things that confirm their beliefs. (Of course, having an appreciation for black humor helps.)

[theDCeBOY]

RE: Does mentioning a potential review impact an escort...

 

>LOL! No, my ink color is not now red, just the basic black, as

>I am much too lazy to go to the effort of changing font

>color.

well, in case you ever DO want to change font colour in a post, to change it back to the normal font, the colour is "darkblue." if you just use "blue" it will look like this instead of this. this is black, if you were wondering. "chartreuse" doesn't show up well..

[phage]

RE: Does mentioning a potential review impact an escort...

 

>If anything, I would say that your proposed tactic is WORSE -

>because you want to have the fear of a bad review in the

>escort's mind before you even meet him - you want to introduce

>a climate of intimidation and punishment before knowing

>whether the escort even needs the whip.

 

Now I’m confused about whether your first response was sarcastic or not, but I suppose it is irrelevant to the discussion at hand.

 

I never mention this site to an escort unless specifically asked how I found them. Even then I will name one of the other non-review escort sites if they are listed there also. I’m just not that concerned about absolutely maximizing my session, and if I’m going to write a review, I would want it more reflective of the escort's normal performance.

 

So purely as an academic discussion, isn’t there room for simple positive reinforcement? The reward of a positive review rather than the threat of a negative one?

[Doug69]

RE: Does mentioning a potential review impact an escort...

 

>Now I’m confused about whether your first response was

>sarcastic or not . . .

 

Phage, you were doing so well in following along. What happened?

 

>So purely as an academic discussion, isn’t there room for

>simple positive reinforcement? The reward of a positive

>review rather than the threat of a negative one?

 

If you contact an escort and discuss a meeting and then manage to throw in: "oh, by the way, you should know that I participate in a widely read site which publishes reviews of escorts, and I want you to know that I will review how you perform," what possible purpose could that serve other than to put the escort on notice that unless he's a good dog, he won't get a treat, and in fact, he may even be put in the cage?

[theDCeBOY]

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hey phage... a few words about not being totally honest about where you found an escort:

 

some of us like to note where a client finds us so that we can maximise our advertising budget. so, if you're going to pick a random site, try to pick one that is free to list. if you pick a site where an escort must pay, he might think he's getting business from that site & continue to pay for it, when in fact it was this non-pay site that generated the lead.

[phage]

RE: Does mentioning a potential review impact an escort...

 

>Phage, you were doing so well in following along. What

>happened?

 

The pitfall of trying to keep an open mind and entertain all possibilities. It’s difficult to just decide something and go with it. Besides, one never knows with you…

 

>If you contact an escort and discuss a meeting and then manage

>to throw in: "oh, by the way, you should know that I

>participate in a widely read site which publishes reviews of

>escorts, and I want you to know that I will review how you

>perform," what possible purpose could that serve other than to

>put the escort on notice that unless he's a good dog, he won't

>get a treat, and in fact, he may even be put in the cage?

 

Well, if you frame it like that, it would be difficult for the escort to take it as anything other than a threat. The original post does specifically mention a potential review and not just familiarity with this site, so it would undoubtedly come off like that. Point taken on this type of presentment.

 

However, I’m a corporate wage slave who is reviewed and ranked against my peers on an annual basis. I know I’m pretty good so it isn’t about avoiding a negative review -- it’s about getting an even better one. I was thinking along those lines, but I suppose it’s not a very good comparison. This is a universally understood policy and doesn’t get thrown in people’s faces. I imagine I would feel threatened if my boss mentioned the review/ranking process every time he asked me to do something. (Which, in the case of my boss, is mercifully never a blow job.)

[phage]

RE: Does mentioning a potential review impact an escort...

 

I never really considered that and have to admit that I don’t have any idea which sites the escorts have to pay for and which they do not. I’m not much of a consumer anymore so I’m hardly leading many guys astray, but just in case I get adventurous again, which are which?

[theDCeBOY]

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why not tell him the truth???

if you can't bring yourself to do that, americanmale.net is free.

[+ Charlie]

RE: Does mentioning a potential review impact an escort...

 

I tell an escort that I found him through this site for the same reason that, before the Internet, I used to tell an escort what publication(s) I found him in: it tells him a lot about what I already know about him and what I am likely to expect.

[JamesK840]

Mentioning HooBoy's...

 

I've been with three escorts from the board so far (not counting the one I was first review for). Generally they wanted to know how I found them, I told the truth. After all, much less then 10% of the people that read the reviews post reviews themselves, I'm sure. (Hell, probably less then 10% that read reviews even act on them, then 10% of that number may add new ones...), so I didn't feel I was dangling a carrot.

 

I think posters are wrong when they imply it doesn't have much effect on the escort's business. When a positive review pops up in Newest Reviews it seems to make a big difference in that escort's income for that week or two, from what I've heard.

 

One rather talkative (and reviewed) escort knew I was a MC poster, assumed I was a reviewer, and basically begged me for a review all through the session, telling me how big a difference it made. He even told me he has a couple fake avatars and so do a couple other escorts, and they'd posted and exchanged fake reviews to introduce a friend or more often for the income bump. Strangely, his performance sexually wasn't that great (rather distracted), and I found the begging somewhat unseemly, so I did not post a review.

 

Even more interesting, I think, is the process of introducing an escort found elsewhere to the site. I've offered 3 times (only ones I'd had more then one enjoyable experience with), only one eventually took me up on it, another did then changed his mind. Many don't know about this place, especially if you're meeting through something like Craigslist (or, ahem, elsewhere), and I guess aren't willing to cross a threshold they've got in their mind.

[guptasa1]

RE: Mentioning HooBoy's...

 

I do mention where I found the escort if asked (usually this site), but I also don't make it sound at all like a threat (and it isn't). At any rate, generally if I hire an escort that I found on this site, it's a compliment to them anyhow - obviously there's something there I liked. But frankly, this is probably the best site out there to find escorts AND have an idea of if they're for real or not. I don't think unless you MAKE it sound like a threat it has to intimidate them.

[phage]

RE: Does mentioning a potential review impact an escort...

 

I didn’t say I never mentioned it. If they are listed on multiple sites, it doesn’t really matter that I place more emphasis on this one. However, I prefer to avoid the topic because of the issues discussed in this thread and personal experience.

 

1. The first person I ever mentioned it to was an agency guy who had no idea the site existed or that he had been reviewed. It got very weird very fast.

2. Another time I was treated to a rather long diatribe about the old queens on the message board. I wasn’t even posting at the time but still felt some guilty by association.

3. And yet another time it just got awkward. He said the site was both a blessing and a curse. It was the source of most of his business but also a monkey on his back.

 

It was a non-issue for the only other guy I’ve mentioned it to and he has became a regular. I did post a review because he was the hottest thing I had ever encountered and I wanted to help his business, but, to this day, we have never discussed it.

[DavidGartner]

>Another time I was with a super hot escort and I wanted to be

>rimmed. Since I'm not normally in the mood for that with

>escorts, I didn't ask in advance if he does it, but this

>escort had a hot tongue and I wanted it licking down there.

>

>So I said: "I want you to rim me" and he said: "I don't

>really do that with clients." So I said: "well, I guess your

>Hooboy review I submit is going to have to discuss how

>unaccomodating and uptight you are."

>

>Needless to say, the tongue was quickly out of his mouth -

>almost panting - and he gave me a great, enthusiastic rim job

>for about 15 minutes until I came on his face and left.

>

I have to comment on this one, How could you possibly expect an escort to rim a client for any amount of money to threat of a bad review. ANY health specialist will tell you how DANGEROUS that is. EVEN if they have gone to the extent of cleaning etc, the spincter opening of the anus is a haven for micro tears etc and with rimming alot of diseases can be transmitted , HIV etc. I do not think that should ever be expected of an escort. Now if thats his speciality then who am I to say anything but to those who dont normally and are threatened into it, thats just wrong.

[BuckyXTC]

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>am i REALLY the only one who saw his post as the sarcasm it

>was?

>

 

Ethan:

 

If you read Doug69's subsequent post, you'll see it wasn't sarcasm. Looks like only you and Phage thought it was. Of course, I knew if even one person agreed with you, you'd think you had won some great victory. Grow up!

[Guest Mikel]

RE: Does mentioning a potential review impact an escort...

 

Well, Doug...I'll try to explain what I perceive to be the difference. Of course, you are entitled to your perspective.

 

Using the example of a Restaurant Reviewer. I walk in the Restaurant and announce; "I'm from the Post. I'll be reviewing your restaurant". A threat? No. It's a fact. I'm writing a review for the Post. Do I expect the restaurant will "put their best foot forward" and give me their best service and quality food. Absolutely! But it is all up to them. I don't need to mention again that I am a reviewer from the Post...they know it.

 

I let the Restaurant do their thing. I don't need to remind them I'm from the Post. I write a fair and honest review. End of the story.

 

If every two minutes I tell the waiter; "If that entree isn't out here in two minutes...I'm writing that up in the review..." then, in my opinion...that becomes thretening and borders blackmail. All those; "If...then" statements become threats with negative consequences and no compliments along the way. Restaurant reviewers simply save their comments for the review.

 

Escort business...My question...Mention it up front..."I write reviews on the Hooboy site for those escorts I hire" or something like that. Expect the best foot forward? That is the admitted intent. I just wondered if it works. But then save comments for an honest and fair review. If during the performance one keeps mentioning; "If you don't...then I will ...". I'm sorry...those sound like threats. Just write the honest review.

 

So, that is what I see as the difference, You don't see it that way. I respect that.

[Guest fukamarine]

What a totally disgusting person you have turned our to be. I always suspected as much but now we have the proof - but I'm sure you're very proud of yourself and your "negotiating" skills, which are to my mind nothing but pure extortion and blackmail.

 

You sir, are a fucking creep - YUK

 

fukamarine

[theDCeBOY]

RE: Does mentioning a potential review impact an escort...

 

(channelling taylor)

you are officially a troll to be swept under the bridge.

 

grow up? fuck off!

 

you'll believe anything negative about anyone--as long as he isn't a liberal democrat.

 

waste of space!

[Doug69]

RE: Does mentioning a potential review impact an escort...

 

>you'll believe anything negative about anyone

 

How stupid do you have to be? I mean - even Flower got it.

 

>--as long as he

>isn't a liberal democrat.

 

Yes - this particular strain of rabid liberal, exemplified by Bucky, is just like the "Hillary-killed-Vince-Foster" crowd on the Right - no accusation is too baseless, too transparently false for them to make if the target is someone whose political views are different then theirs.

[theDCeBOY]

RE: Does mentioning a potential review impact an escort...

 

i just KNOW he's going to make another "Down Syndrome" accusation now...

he's grown so very tedious!

[Guest skrubber]

RE: Mentioning HooBoy's...

 

I found this to be a intriguing question to which I must reply. I would NEVER hold the threat of a bad review over the head of any of my escorts. Nor would I dangle a carrot in front of them promising a good review. I would not want to force an escort to do things for me that he does not feel comfortable doing like Doug69. :-( Let's face it guys, these fellows are doing us a favor by agreeing to see us and using blackmail like that I find abhorant. Treat your escorts well and don't force them to do what they don't want to do. The great ones are out there. Find them.

[theDCeBOY]

RE: Mentioning HooBoy's...

 

>Let's face it guys, these

>fellows are doing us a favor by agreeing to see us

a FAVOUR? people usually get paid for doing favours?

i certainly do not claim to speak for the other escorts here, but when i see a client, i view it as a business transaction, not a favour. maybe i'm strange that way.

[guptasa1]

RE: Mentioning HooBoy's...

 

>>Let's face it guys, these

>>fellows are doing us a favor by agreeing to see us

>

>a FAVOUR? people usually get paid for doing favours?

>i certainly do not claim to speak for the other escorts here,

>but when i see a client, i view it as a business transaction,

>not a favour. maybe i'm strange that way.

 

Just my perspective as a client. I'd say in some respects I see it as a favor too. The money I pay for an escort is for the time he spends with me, and though I make expectations as to what I hope happens in that time, I won't force someone to do something they really don't want to do. If an escort isn't comfortable with sex (and that's happened twice...both with non-reviewed escorts, one of whom was very new and very nice [clocked me out and we went out to eat instead - lol], the other who I think was a scammer...and why I no longer will hire someone without a review). EVEN though I'm paying an escort, if he's going out of his way to make me feel comfortable and sexy and if he's really getting into it and trying to have a really passionate and pleasurable time with me (being caring, cuddling warmly afterwards, not watching the clock or just doing the bare minimum of what he promised, etc.), in my opinion, that's a favor...something he's choosing to do beyond the minimum. Granted, this is good for him too, as he's likely to get repeat business, but it's still a choice he's making at least partially for my benefit.

[theDCeBOY]

RE: Mentioning HooBoy's...

 

how very sad that you'd see paying someone to spend time with you as him doing you a favour! grow some self-esteem!

seriously, though, most of the people i see need no such favours.

[guptasa1]

RE: Mentioning HooBoy's...

 

It probably is a self-esteem thing. I'm probably not as bad being around as I think I am. LOL. But still, even that aside, I think when escorts treat you really well and go out of their way to make the client happy, they deserve some personal credit aside from the payment. Maybe favor just isn't the best word for what I'm trying to say.

[BuckyXTC]

RE: Does mentioning a potential review impact an escort...

 

>i just KNOW he's going to make another

>"Down Syndrome" accusation now...

>he's grown so very tedious!

 

Dear Ethan/Oren/Dickhead:

 

Doug69 actually said he gets a kick out of seeing the fumblings of Down's Syndrome children..........do a search through the threads, it's there. Of course you won't because you never let the truth stand in the way of your opinions.

 

It sure didn't take long for the old Ethan of yesterday to come back in full force. Just a matter of time before you'll self destruct here.

 

Jason Carter gave you good advice, but you're too obtuse and arrogant to understand the wisdom of what he said. Regardless of the size of your dick, a lot of clients, myself included, wouldn't want to deal with your attitude. There's too many nice escorts (like Jason Carter) who aren't high maintenance egomaniacs, as you've shown yourself to be.

 

So, you'll probably end up with one client (Doug69).

 

Doug69 and Ethan/Oren.............perfect together.