Ascent on Rio by the Motley Crue. !!

[Funseeker 22]

Another poster and I were having lunch today when the subject of the LA revival of that old farce "Noises Off" came up for discussion.

This new trip would make a great comedy called "Towel`s Off" or some other silly name. The Hotel Atlantico will probably never be the same once they are ascended on by this international group of all ages, sizes, ethnicities etc all seeking the "Holy Grail". Tomcal will be running interference for the sauna boys running from room to room and floor to floor, all seeking their own fortune.

Should be hilarious. Wish you could all be along however you might see the end result as the winner of Sundance ????

No doubt you can all catch up with postings along the way.

P.S. Any creative screenwriters among this group?

[axebahia]

RE: Please explain

 

This is not meant to start a flame war or even jerking circle, but can someone please explain this phenomenon of on-line johns wanting to hook up with other on-line johns in person? As I noted in an exchange with VAHawk on another thread, it seems weird to me, but I don't mean to criticize. I just want to understand what is behind this particular urge. I can understand wanting to hook up with a group of M4M escorts, but clients makes no sense to me.

 

Genuinely curious.

[+ Lucky]

RE: Please explain

 

Fear not, ad rian, for it is unlikely that any one will be wanting to meet up with you. For the rest of though, there is some fun in gettting together with guys of like interests and similar ages to shoot the shit and talk about having to wear glasses to see the hair in our ears. Beyond that, we learn all about the latest erectile disfunction treatments and home-made suppositories. And we do trade tips on how to prolong orgasm until the boy is actually undressed! So, see, you are not missing out on anything

[bigguyinpasadena]

RE: Please explain

 

It is not uncommon at all for members of an internet group to meet up every once and awhile.In fact it is a VERY integral part of some online communities(IgoUgo)for example.

At our LA meetings we have a good time,and it can be a comfortable place for someone new to the scene to make a "first toe in the water"connection.

From what I have heard,and the photos I have seen,The group meeting up in RIO,as well as those meeting up in Montreal have a real blast and many friendships have been established.

Of course certain posters on this board are so full of anger and bitterness that no decent folks would want to socialize.These BOQ's are then likely to throw insults and stupid little post about"why would a group of --- wasnt to meet up with other ---"while trying to cloak their anger and bitterness in such a post.

[axebahia]

RE: Please explain

 

>Of course certain posters on this board are so full of anger

>and bitterness that no decent folks would want to

>socialize.These BOQ's are then likely to throw insults and

>stupid little post about"why would a group of --- wasnt to

>meet up with other ---"while trying to cloak their anger and

>bitterness in such a post.

 

Big Guy, you read me wrong. I honestly want to understand why anyone would bother with this. Don't you folks have real friends? It is nice to exchange views on escorts, escorting and politics on-line but beyond that I don't get it. However, if it floats your boat, go for it though I tend to think Lucky's assesment bears a ring of truth to it.

[trilingual]

RE: Please explain

 

Of course we all have real friends. Not all of them, though, share our enthusiasm for Rio, Brazil, and the steamy attractions to be found there! So it's enjoyable to hang out with other guys who also enjoy those things. Not all of us want to hide permanently behind our nicknames and hurl invective or invent silly topics to get other people to respond to as our only means of social interaction. Some of us actually LIKE interacting with other real human beings! And those of us who've socialized with other M4Mers have found that many of them are interesting, worthwhile guys to know, with a tremendous range of backgrounds and interests that goes far beyond their fascination with the saunas and the boys.

 

Anyway, this coming week at the Atlântico should be a classic! Too bad Feydeau is no longer with us, because I have a feeling he's the only writer who'd be able to do justice to this gathering. We actually may succeed in topping the madness of his farces! I'm sure that for the guys who will be there, this is going to be an unforgettable trip!

[Guest Tomcal_]

RE: Please explain

 

Ok, I will jump on this question, believing that's it's being asked seriously. I mostly post in the South of the Border area, wasn't looking for "new friends", I have a fairly large group of buddies I hang with, but last year one of the guys who saw my posts on Rio saw that I go to NYC often and asked if I wanted to have lunch, so that I could tell him what Rio was really like, many guys have this idea that Rio is so unsafe that one should never visit. Several other guys asked when I was going so they could go at the same time, feeling it would be easier to learn their way around in a foregn country if they were with someone who has already done it. About 9 of us ended up in Rio at the same time, hanging around the same restaurant's,bars and Saunas and realized we liked each other, all were between 39 - 55 in age, professionals with varied and many interests(besides Brazil). Spending those 10 days together, some of us bonded and became friends, and have continued to socialize here in the sates. Several of my buddies here have met several M4M's and vice versa. In other words, a natural evolution of how people become acqaintances and friends. Since then this has kept evolving, like any party or group you meet, some of the people are nice, but you won't want to hang or socialize with them and others have become very good friends! So far I have met approximately 20 + M4M's in person either in Rio, NYC or L.A.(and one in Honolulu) and overall it's been a great experience! Separately from that group, the LA M4M have done 3 dinners together, and it's been fun, and again a good group of guys.

I think for the most part the friendships a person develops in life usually always spring from some common experiences that you have, i.e., same school, same type of work, same hobby like golf or collecting whatever, being gay, being gay and going to Brazil, etc. that gives you something in common, now does it works out to friendship?..., probably less then 25%, of the people you come across are you going to want to know any better then their names! For me, it's been great, I had a fairly large social group(and boyfriend)in place, meeting these other guys has definitly been a big plus. However if you go into it thinking about guys on this board (which friends of mine who have never been on this board and have never hired an escort have said)"It's just a bunch of old queens that can't get laid by anyone unless they pay for it, why would you want to go out with them?!" You are not going to want to get to know them beyond their anoyomous handles and facades they put up here! I can tell you IMHO, most of the M4Ms I have met, are regular guys, do date, all have different reasons for why they hire out, range from average to Gdlkg, from overweight to toned to muscular bodies...you seeing the picture?? It looks like a cross section of any gay bar you go into except for the age is skewed to 35-55(Although I have met two M4M's that were in their late 20's in the past 2months) In the past year that I have been meeting M4M's I have enriched my knowledge of Law, Medicine, real estate to name a few, from my new friends! It's been great, you ought to try it!

[jackhammer91406]

RE: Please explain

 

I am going to take your question seriously as well. I think maybe you are focused too much on how these new friends met each other. It's true that we met through a message board who's focus is escorts. But what has developed has gone far beyond that. If you have an image in your mind that the predominant number of men who post here are old, fat and uninteresting, it's easy to see why you can't understand how friendships could develop, because you apparently wouldn't want these kinds of people for friends. But as Tomcal points out, that assumed description of the M4Mers is faulty from the outset. As for why we would want to meet each other, perhaps you are own preferences as the guidline for judging other's motives. Some people want to remain anonymous..fine. Any social group begins with a common interest as Tomcal says. Reasons for developing friendships from a message center or anywhere can be varied of course. The men I have met also range in looks, tastes, interest, backgrounds, and ethnic origins. The one thing they have in common is, they are mostly genuinely nice guys. They are people I am happy to call friends. It may come as a surprise to you, but we seldom spend the entire time or even the majority of it, talking about escorts. We talk politics, travel, social change, design, medicine, cars, sports, etc..in short all the things you would talk about with YOUR friends.

I have become much more comfortable in my new gay skin as a result of meeting others just like me. True, I started with escorts..but now I am dating, not hiring...why?..how? because on of the guys I met on M4M convinced me that there was a market for me and told me where to get set up..It's that simple...I will never be able to repay him for that encouragement. In my time on this board I have had many guys from here send me private messages of encouragement and information. Shockingly, not just about escorts...just people connecting with people.

 

There are undoubtably some who are attracted to the anonymity of a message center like this and have no desire to meet up with many or all of the "personas" here. That's cool. But it's also cool to follow the natural progression of aquaintance by meeting in person.

It all works, whatever your preference. Anyone here can play "hide" or can play "go seek" .

 

Hope this gives you some answers

 

 

[duke37]

RE: Please explain

 

Why?

 

Humans are an inherently social animal. And this message center selects for a distinctive and pretty unique kinds of people. So why be surprised that people of common interests or life experiences would want to meet?

 

What has been the surprise and a very pleasant one too, has been how warm and positive the men are that I have met through m4m. Perhaps because no one has an agenda. Or maybe no one is made to feel pressured or selfconscious. But for whatever the reason I think those of us who have met others from this board in the "real world" consider themselves better for the experience.

 

I have had the great pleasure to get to know one way or the other guys like jackhammer, mmk, suntan4 and Will. I believe they feel the same way about me.

 

Look at it this way. Some guys find that they truly come to like the guys they meet as escorts. Not just think they're hot. Not thinking that there is some possibility of romance. But rather discovering some men who escort are really good people and feeling like well friends. So its no big jump to being open to other people here as well.

 

And who has TOO many friends?

 

Jeff

[axebahia]

RE: Please explain

 

>Not all of us

>want to hide permanently behind our nicknames and hurl

>invective or invent silly topics to get other people to

>respond to as our only means of social interaction.

 

No doubt, but what intrigues me is that an on-line web site about whores is the only trigger for your social interaction. I am not judging you, but trying to understand you.

[+ deej]

RE: Please explain

 

As BGIP said, this kind of F2F meeting of online groups is far from uncommon.

 

I've been active in online technical forums for 20 years. It's a real kick to go to a conference and find yourself surrounded by 1500 people you know really well but have never met. We've even organized pre-conference parties (or mid-conference dinners) that are great fun and amazing in that the conversations never stop and run the gamut from tech issues to child-rearing, and pretty much everything in between. In fact, when we started doing the organized gatherings, we actually started attracting new members to our online communities.

 

Back in the hayday of CB Radio, it was extremely common to have a monthly party/dinner/gathering of local CB afficionados. Same deal -- people who have one common interest get together and discover a broad range of overlapping interests.

 

Humans are inherently social. A social gathering where at least one common interest is present is a proven recipe. Online communities are nothing more than humans seeking others with a shared interest. Extending that with F2F meetings is a natural extension.

[Rick Munroe]

RE: Please explain

 

>Humans are inherently social. A social gathering where at

>least one common interest is present is a proven recipe.

>Online communities are nothing more than humans seeking others

>with a shared interest. Extending that with F2F meetings is a

>natural extension.

 

And that's probably why http://www.meetup.com ("a meetup is a local gathering of a group of people brought together by a common interest") is so successful (btw, there are currently 125,000+ people attending monthly Howard Dean Meetups...that's the largest Meetup group; Clark has 40,000+ and Bush has 1,300+). Maybe one of you guys should start an official M4M Client Meetup. I just checked and there isn't one currently but you can suggest one as a "Mature Content" topic.

[Funseeker 22]

RE: Please explain

 

How come my light Rio posting finished up with the Munroe Ass and

everything in between. (not between the Munroe Ass)?

Thank you axebahia for hijacking again.