How would you suggest reacting?

[zach_wilson]

Recently I had an inquiry from a former client that I spent an wonderful week with in vegas. He stated that he has vacation time coming the end of August and would love to meet for another week. I stated that I was available and I looked forward to hearing more details as to our trip and booking it down. He stated that he would love it if I planned an nice intimate get away for us and gave me an budget to include my compensation, both airfares, lodging, and activities. I did my research on a place I have traveled to before, Key West, Fl. When I got back to him I came in well under budget with everything. He then stated that he didn't want to do any activities, that he just wanted to relax, play, eat and sleep pretty much. I stated to him that I was sorry and that I was under the impression he wanted to do more given how he had stated things, and then reiterated my rate for a week together. He then said "screw it, I'm deleting you, your to hard to deal with." I don't feel I did anything wrong or said anything wrong. Is there something I'm overlooking?

[BaronArtz]

Did he give you a budget before you started planning it out? And you came in under budget, is that right?

 

If he really is going to be a jerk about it, be happy you got rid of him.

 

Next.

[zach_wilson]

Baron I did come in under the budget given to me by a lot

[+ Travis69]

Did any of this type of rude behavior appear when you spent time with him before? He sounds a bit screwy to me with how he responded to you.

[down_to_business]

Its just one of those things like when a client can't figure out why an escort won't call him back or answer his emails any more. You could drive yourself mad with speculation, but in the end you will never know for sure. It may be something you did, it may be nothing related to you or your actions at all (i.e. he had a sudden unexpected financial strain), but again why drive your self crazy. Best to let it go and move on. Sorry this happened to you as you seem like one of the good guys out there.

 

All the best!

[tom1980]

Maybe he was looking for a more luxurious resort? Maybe he wanted you to read his mind and know he wanted to be lazy? Maybe he's manic? Maybe he changed his mind about taking the trip? Based on his temperamental response, I wouldn't be surprised if he writes you again tomorrow and says he wants to do the trip after all. If you want to see him, I recommend being apologetic and letting his rudeness slide. Then again, now that you've seen this side of him you may not want to spend a week with him.

[JoeyBryant]

I planned[/color][/size] an nice intimate get away for us and gave me an budget to include my compensation, both airfares, lodging, and activities. Is there something I'm overlooking?

 

That's a red flag right there. Being that he wanted YOU to plan everything, he wanted to wind you up, and make you plan it all.

 

He then said "screw it, I'm deleting you, your to hard to deal with."

 

I fucking hate lil spoiled brats who talk like that. I bet it was all through text, too? I had a (now former) client tell me something similar...except he said, "other escort's aren't this hard to deal with", when I suggested meeting at 7 instead of 5. But I told him, "well other escorts wouldn't have known how to navigate you through the mountains, when you were texting me telling me the main road into Denver was closed either, asshole". I ended up having to meet up with him again shortly after him saying that, but we addressed it. We talked it out over dinner, but afterwards he pulled the 'my boyfriend fucked me good, and I don't want to hurt him anymore" stunt just a couple months later. I should have known. I doubt it's the same guy though.

 

Some people are just ill and need help.

[gallahadesquire]

Zach- Basically, he should be written off your list. You did your homework - and I'd love for someone to treat me to planning a vacation with activities in Key West - and he's an ass for not negotiating further.

 

As my father used to say: Why are there more horses' asses than there are horses?

[Frequentflier]

Recently I had an inquiry from a former client that I spent an wonderful week with in vegas. He stated that he has vacation time coming the end of August and would love to meet for another week. I stated that I was available and I looked forward to hearing more details as to our trip and booking it down. He stated that he would love it if I planned an nice intimate get away for us and gave me an budget to include my compensation, both airfares, lodging, and activities. I did my research on a place I have traveled to before, Key West, Fl. When I got back to him I came in well under budget with everything. He then stated that he didn't want to do any activities, that he just wanted to relax, play, eat and sleep pretty much. I stated to him that I was sorry and that I was under the impression he wanted to do more given how he had stated things, and then reiterated my rate for a week together. He then said "screw it, I'm deleting you, your to hard to deal with." I don't feel I did anything wrong or said anything wrong. Is there something I'm overlooking?

 

You didn't do or say anything wrong from your description of events. Looks like the client changed his mind and wanted you to come along as a companion with no activities and no compensation for your time. That wasn't you're understanding up front. His final response suggests to me he's got some issues emotionally and/or mentally. All he had to say was that he wasn't asking for activities and was hoping you'd be interested in going on the trip without a fee for your time in return for all expenses to be paid. You'd likely say "no" and the topic would close. He also could have considered that whatever amount you came in under budget could go towards your fee. Its unfortunate, given you had a good time in Vegas with the client, that happened but its not your fault.

[+ quoththeraven]

Based on the information at hand, I read this a little differently from everyone else. Given that you'd been to Vegas with this guy and your compensation was built into the budget (was that made clear, though, or an assumption on your part?), he knew you expected to be paid. I assume there was some discussion of your rate under these circumstances; I know some (many?) escorts reduce their daily rate for trips like this in light of the other expense the client incurs.

 

To me, this seems more like someone who gave you control over planning without giving you specifics, didn't like what you came up with, and reacted childishly. I get the sense from what you've written that he expected you to intuit that he wanted a relaxing, hang around and do-nothing vacation rather than one filled with sightseeing and activities. He might even have a point about that, but it's not fair of him to expect you to read his mind when he wasn't specific about it, and it's not right for him to lash out at you about it. I think mentioning your rate when you did may been a case of bad timing and what brought on his tirade; a reassurance that a vacation without activities is fine with you too (I assume he didn't nix the location) before returning to the issue of cost might have been a better way of handling it. Otherwise it could be interpreted as though you thought he was nixing activities because he was being cheap. That's not necessarily the case, and even if it were, it's not helpful to suggest that it is.

 

If you don't want to leave things where they are, consider sending him an e-mail stating that the kind of vacation he suggested is fine with you and asking him if what you'd planned, sans activities, would work for him or if not, what would. Include a breakdown of costs by category and assure him that you weren't suggesting that a trip without outside activities was of no interest to you. Then leave it up to him to respond (or not). If he doesn't, or he responds rudely, then write him off.

 

If asked to engage in travel planning in the future, maybe it's better to ask more questions up front. Just having a budget is not enough. Where a client wants to go and what kind of vacation and activities the client wants to engage in also need to be explored, at least in general terms.

[Guest countryboywny]

Hey Zach,

It seems to me that it would have been a simple thing to drop the cost of the activities out and re-quote the budget. Did you give him the other costs individually? Like, the hotel is this much, my time is this much, etc.? Either the guy felt you were taking advantage of him.. or he set a trap in his mind for you to fall in. ..or he could be a control freak???

[tanman4u]

I may be naive about his but could He then stated that he didn't want to do any activities, have been referring to other activities than escorting? Did you have, as part of the plans, tennis/golf/scuba/snorkeling/etc.? If he did actually mean no sexual activities then why would he ask an escort to plan the vacation?

[MiamiLooker]

Direct the client to this thread. Maybe he'll post his side of the story or offer an explanation if he agrees with your version of the events.

[zach_wilson]

Countryboy, I did give him an itemized email of the plane ticket cost for both me and him, as well as lodging cost, activities(broken down with links to the sites) as well as a compensation rate. All activities were suggestions not things that we had to do just things that would give us something to do as Key west is beautiful to see especially by sea.

 

Miamilooker, He is able to post on here if he so chooses as he is an forum member. Im just guessing he maybe has yet to see the post or has no interest in responding to it. Which I wish he would at least read this and send me an email personally and state what it is he felt I did wrong so that I can better myself in my career.

[Keenan]

Recently I had an inquiry from a former client that I spent an wonderful week with in vegas. He stated that he has vacation time coming the end of August and would love to meet for another week. I stated that I was available and I looked forward to hearing more details as to our trip and booking it down. He stated that he would love it if I planned an nice intimate get away for us and gave me an budget to include my compensation, both airfares, lodging, and activities. I did my research on a place I have traveled to before, Key West, Fl. When I got back to him I came in well under budget with everything. He then stated that he didn't want to do any activities, that he just wanted to relax, play, eat and sleep pretty much. I stated to him that I was sorry and that I was under the impression he wanted to do more given how he had stated things, and then reiterated my rate for a week together. He then said "screw it, I'm deleting you, your to hard to deal with." I don't feel I did anything wrong or said anything wrong. Is there something I'm overlooking?

 

No, it seems like you did everything correctly. I'd just let things be and if he isn't happy then it's his loss. Don't try to pursue it any further. If he gets back to you great, otherwise you did what you could.

 

Keenan

[jimboivyo]

guys like that are best to be ignored. he treated you as if your time wasn't worth the same as his.

 

others have said it already: Forget the creep.

[MiamiLooker]

Is it a coincidence that you have a review from last year by a forum member for a session in Las Vegas?

[+ nycman]

Is it a coincidence that you have a review from last year by a forum member for a session in Las Vegas?

 

Note to self.....never underestimate the detective work of the men on Daddy's!

[Guest countryboywny]

Countryboy, I did give him an itemized email of the plane ticket cost for both me and him, as well as lodging cost, activities(broken down with links to the sites) as well as a compensation rate. All activities were suggestions not things that we had to do just things that would give us something to do as Key west is beautiful to see especially by sea.

 

'nuff said! Forget him.

[jimboivyo]

Is it a coincidence that you have a review from last year by a forum member for a session in Las Vegas?

 

it ain't coincidence and you stirring this pot this way is pretty starved for attention

 

he said they had a great time in the past, so why shouldn't he have been reviewed on it? I don't get what angle youre trying to play here.

[rvwnsd]

I don't think you did anything wrong. Although it sucks that he treated you the way he did, be glad you are rid of him. It was only a matter of time before he behaved that way in person.

[MiamiLooker]

it ain't coincidence and you stirring this pot this way is pretty starved for attention

 

he said they had a great time in the past, so why shouldn't he have been reviewed on it? I don't get what angle youre trying to play here.

 

I have no angle other than I’m not comfortable simply accepting the OP’s description of events as being complete and accurate. My gut feeling is that the original post was made in hopes of getting a response from the client.