RoadTRIP COWBOY STYLE!! woohoo SEX on the ranch

[DavidGartner]

Well I must say, my trip from New Orleans to Tampa was somewhat uneventful as the scenery had stayed the same pretty much and I was travelling by night.. although the little error in driving directions that took me to JacksonVille wasnt exactly the greated but hey C'est la vie. I stayed at a hotel for a few nights.. THEN i swear to god.. this HOT HOT boy IM'd me off aol.. and I was like what does this boy want.. hehe He thought I was hot. and wow did I ever think he was hot too!! He actually told me he was in the same "business" as me. wow check out this http://hometown.aol.com/TwoHawtieEscorts

we have decided to team up and work the Florida area woohoo

woooohoo cowboy rawr.. sex in the ranch is hot.. too we did it in the stall lol

[bigguyinpasadena]

Awwwwwww,that is so cute!Thanks for the update David-How was N'awlens?Did you get wild?

Glad you are having so much fun-enjoy yourself!

[JamesK840]

David, you've got the bring the blonde hottie back to LA with you! I'd hire you two together in a heartbeat!

[+ deej]

Yummy. Two bottoms to be used.

 

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[DavidGartner]

hehe, yea N'orleans or however the slang is announciated. LOL New Orleans was soo amazing, WOW I mean Bourban street was something to die for.. I think I will create a yahoo group as my friend Benjamin Nicholas had kinda suggested, then I can get all my film developed and you can see the fun im having.. OMG OMG OMG This past friday.. my cowboy partner took me to a rodeo, where all the guys ive been stayin with ( all cowboys ) who are takin me bein gay.. descently enough, all went bull ridin.. man did i ever get good pics of that. then they went ropin calfs. it was bad ASS!! Altho near the end of the rodeo.. some dude .. his hand got traped to the rope. as he got bucked off.. and he was caught under the bull.. while attached to the rope.. he was bucked multiple amount of times in the head etc.. he lay there unconscinece./.. his femer was snapped in half. was rushed to the hospital with a helicoptor. just reminds u of how dangerous that sport is. man . brutal! OTHER THEN that tho ive been havin a blast.

[Rick Munroe]

>all went bull

>ridin.. man did i ever get good pics of that. then they went

>ropin calfs. it was bad ASS!! Altho near the end of the

>rodeo.. some dude .. his hand got traped to the rope. as he

>got bucked off.. and he was caught under the bull.. while

>attached to the rope.. he was bucked multiple amount of times

>in the head etc.. he lay there unconscinece./.. his femer was

>snapped in half. was rushed to the hospital with a

>helicoptor. just reminds u of how dangerous that sport is.

>man . brutal!

 

Actually, it's much worse for the calves, bulls, horses and other animals used in the cruel "sport" of rodeos. Here are excerpts from peta's fact sheet at http://www.peta.org :

 

"Rodeos are promoted as rough and tough exercises of human skill and courage in conquering the fierce, untamed beasts of the Wild West. In reality, rodeos are nothing more than manipulative displays of human domination over animals, thinly disguised as entertainment. What began in the 1800s as a skill contest among cowboys has become a show motivated by greed and big profits.

 

"Standard rodeo events include calf roping, steer wrestling, bareback horse and bull riding, saddle bronc riding, steer wrestling, steer roping, and barrel racing. The animals used in rodeos are captive performers. Most are relatively tame but understandably distrustful of human beings because of the harsh treatment that they have received. Many of these animals are not aggressive by nature; they are physically provoked into displaying 'wild' behavior to make the cowboys look brave.

 

"Electric prods, spurs, and bucking straps are used to irritate and enrage animals used in rodeos. The flank or 'bucking' strap or rope used to make horses and bulls buck is tightly cinched around their abdomens, which causes the animals to 'buck vigorously to try to rid themselves of the torment,' which is what the rodeo promoters want the animals to do in order to put on a good show for the crowds.

 

"Although rodeo cowboys voluntarily risk injury by participating in events, the animals they use have no such choice. Because speed is a factor in many rodeo events, the risk of accidents is high...Calves roped while running routinely have their necks snapped back by the lasso, often resulting in neck injuries."

 

For the full story: http://www.peta.org/mc/facts/fsent1.html

[bluenix]

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[TotallyOz]

OK David. Who is the blond hottie? What is his e-mail?

[BuckyXTC]

>"Standard rodeo events include calf roping, steer wrestling,

>bareback horse and bull riding, saddle bronc riding, steer

>wrestling, steer roping, and barrel racing. The animals used

>in rodeos are captive performers. Most are relatively tame but

>understandably distrustful of human beings because of the

>harsh treatment that they have received. Many of these animals

>are not aggressive by nature; they are physically provoked

>into displaying 'wild' behavior to make the cowboys look

>brave.

 

Rick:

 

A little knowledge is a dangerous thing. You've obviously bought the PETA line lock, stock, and barrel. And I can tell you that it is a load of crap, not from mere opinion, but from personal experience. As someone with a lifetime of experience with livestock and rodeos, I have to say that what you have posted is pure distortion. I have no doubt that you meant well in doing so, but this stuff is so off the wall that the only reason one could fall for it is because of ignorance of the reality. Let me cite what I mean.

 

The animals used

>in rodeos are captive performers. Most are relatively tame but

>understandably distrustful of human beings because of the

>harsh treatment that they have received. Many of these animals

>are not aggressive by nature; they are physically provoked

>into displaying 'wild' behavior to make the cowboys look

>brave.

 

This is crap load number one. Rodeo rough stock is not relatively tame by nature. The animals are chosen because they are aggressive. Having worked with such animals for years, they are no less dangerous in a pasture than they are in a bucking chute or rodeo arena. I'd love to put some of the PETA morons in a catch pen with them and see just how "relatively tame" they think these animals are. And the pure and simple fact is, rodeo animals, particularly rough stock like bulls and bucking horses, live the best life an animal can live. At best, they work less than a minute during any rodeo performance. These animals eat and drink BEFORE the people who take care of them do. Rodeo stock contractors do not abuse these animals, because they are valuable investments and it wouldn't make sense to do anything but afford them the best of care and treatment. A good bucking bull can go for anywhere from $10K - $100K. Now stop and consider what alternatives might face a bull who is not used in rodeo. If he's good, he might be kept for breeding purposes. Not that many fall into this category. In all likelihood, he'll end up in pieces in your supermarket meat department, or his hide will be used to make your belt or shoes. And the market for bulls as "companion animals" is pretty small, so don't go looking there. So, a rodeo bull has the best of all possible lives when it comes to all things bovine.

 

 

>

>"Electric prods, spurs, and bucking straps are used to

>irritate and enrage animals used in rodeos.

 

Electric prods are used to get animals to move, but not to enrage them. Every truck driver who hauls livestock to market uses the same "hot-shot" to make them move. It is high voltage but low amperage, so while it stings, it doesn't cause any permanent damage. What alternative would you suggest be used to get large animals to move? Two by fours or baseball bats? Those cause physical injury.

 

Spurs are used in almost every aspect of equestrian riding, not just rodeo. Should their use be banned? Rodeo associations prescribe which kinds of spurs can be used, and none of them can have sharp points.

 

 

 

The flank or

>'bucking' strap or rope used to make horses and bulls buck is

>tightly cinched around their abdomens, which causes the

>animals to 'buck vigorously to try to rid themselves of the

>torment,' which is what the rodeo promoters want the animals

>to do in order to put on a good show for the crowds.

 

Bucking straps (more accurately called "flank straps" are covered with a sheepskin cover, so all that touches the animals flank is essentially the same thing we lay babies on, or old people in nursing homes so they don't get bed sores. And fact is, if you put the strap on an animal that doesn't want to buck, the presence of that strap will change nothing. The strap doesn't make the animal buck, but it enhances the bucking action. In no way does it harm the animal. If you want to buy the PETA line, then I guess we should outlaw horseback riding altogether. Put a saddle on the back of an untrained horse, and that horse will react by trying to get rid of the saddle.

 

>

>"Although rodeo cowboys voluntarily risk injury by

>participating in events, the animals they use have no such

>choice.

 

Neither do animals have a choice in whether or not they are eaten or turned into handbags.

 

Because speed is a factor in many rodeo events, the

>risk of accidents is high...Calves roped while running

>routinely have their necks snapped back by the lasso, often

>resulting in neck injuries."[/font]

 

While this happens at times (not routinely) the actual incidence of injury to animals is very low. Human injuries far exceed injuries to animals in rodeo. I'm not going to say that animals don't get injured, they do, but hardly with the frequency the looney toons at PETA would like you to believe, so you'll send them money for their "righteous crusade".

 

All the professional rodeo associations require that a veterinarian be on hand during rodeo performances in the event of animal injury.

 

Before you fall total victim to the PETA propaganda, take a moment to read a statement from the Professional Rodeo Cowboys Association regarding animal welfare:

 

In the sport of professional rodeo, cowboys share the limelight with the rodeo livestock. For a cowboy to compete at the highest level, the livestock also must be in peak condition. Both are athletes in their own right. The very nature of rodeo requires a working relationship, and in some events a partnership, between the cowboys and animal athletes.

 

Professional Rodeo Cowboys Association (PRCA) athletes value their animals, as do the PRCA stock contractors that provide the livestock for the rodeos. Like most people, PRCA members believe animals should be provided proper care and treatment. The PRCA and its members value their animals and staunchly protect them with specifically created rules.

 

Consistent proper treatment of animals by PRCA members – in and out of the arena – has been well documented by veterinarians who have witnessed the health and condition of the animals first hand.

Scottsdale, Arizona equine veterinarian Dr. Jennifer Schleining has this to say about the PRCA, “The PRCA upholds the standard of humane care of rodeo animal athletes, and in my professional opinion rodeo remains a healthy, humane, family oriented sport.”

 

Like a well-conditioned athlete, an animal can perform well only if it is healthy. Any cowboy will tell you he takes home a paycheck only when the animal is in top form. Stock contractors, the ranchers who raise and provide livestock to rodeos, also have an obvious financial interest in keeping the animals healthy. Simple logic dictates that no sensible businessperson would abuse an animal that is expected to perform in the future.

 

Many – if not most – of the PRCA’s approximately 10,000 members have more than an economic tie to animals. Nearly all have lived and worked around animals for most of their lives, and they possess a high degree of respect and fondness for the livestock.

 

Hundreds of veterinarians compete in professional rodeo.

 

“I think they participate because they have a deep interest in animals,” said Doug Corey, a Pendleton, Ore., veterinarian. “If there was any mistreatment going on, they wouldn’t participate.”

 

Anyone who attends a PRCA rodeo can be assured that the greatest care has been taken to prevent injury to animals or contestants.

 

PRCA members are bound by the not-for-profit corporation’s bylaws and rules, which include a section that deals exclusively with the humane treatment of animals. The association’s rules and regulations include more than 60 rules dealing with the care and treatment of animals. Anyone who violates these rules may be disqualified and reported to the PRCA, which will levy fines.

 

Professional rodeo judges, who are responsible for the enforcement of all PRCA rules, believe in these humane regulations and do not hesitate to report violations. Becoming a PRCA judge involves extensive training in the skills needed to evaluate livestock and testing of that knowledge and of the rodeo. PRCA rodeo judges undergo constant training and evaluation to ensure their skills are sharp and that they are enforcing PRCA rules, especially those regarding the care and handling of rodeo livestock.

 

Animal welfare is a major and ongoing initiative of the PRCA. Not only does the association have rules to ensure the proper care and treatment of rodeo livestock, but it also has several veterinary advisory panels and periodically hosts educational seminars for veterinarians and rodeo industry members. To coordinate its animal welfare efforts, the PRCA employs a full-time animal welfare coordinator to oversee internal and public education programs.

>

 

So, don't go believing everything the PETA folks would tell you. It's a crock.

[VaHawk]

Wow! What a great post. I learned a lot, and appreciate your giving us the facts. I love to watch Rodeo on TV (all the guys are buff and hot! and love those zoom in camera shots when the guys are getting settled on the horse or bull in the chute ) Can you recommend a site, where we can learn more about the events, rules and scoring?

[BuckyXTC]

>Wow! What a great post. I learned a lot, and appreciate

>your giving us the facts. I love to watch Rodeo on TV (all

>the guys are buff and hot! and love those zoom in camera shots

>when the guys are getting settled on the horse or bull in the

>chute ) Can you recommend a site, where we can learn more

>about the events, rules and scoring?

 

Hawk:

 

Try this site:

 

http://www.prorodeo..com/

[BuckyXTC]

OOPS!

 

Too many typing fingers!

 

 

http://www.prorodeo.com/

[VaHawk]

RE: OOPS!

 

Thanks, man. I will read all about it, and will make a live rodeo visit one of my top priorities, and I will definitely take my binoculars.

[Rick Munroe]

>Before you fall total victim to the PETA propaganda, take a

>moment to read a statement from the Professional Rodeo Cowboys

>Association regarding animal welfare:

 

Actually, there are those who would consider the information you reprinted from the PRCA to be propaganda. Peta has nothing to gain except the protection of animals, whereas rodeos are big business.

 

>The PRCA and its

>members value their animals and staunchly protect

>them with specifically created rules.

 

From peta: "Rodeo association rules are not effective in preventing injuries and are not strictly enforced, nor are penalties severe enough to deter abusive treatment. For example, “If a member abuses an animal by any unnecessary, non-competitive or competitive action, he may be disqualified for the remainder of the rodeo and fined $250 for the first offense, with that fine progressively doubling with each offense thereafter.” These are small fines in comparison to the large purses that are at stake. Rules allow the animals to be confined or transported in vehicles for up to 24 hours without being properly fed, watered, or unloaded."

 

That doesn't sound like they're being "staunchly protective" to me.

[VaHawk]

Hook, line and sinker. Haul it aboard ship.

 

PETA is one of the most obnoxious action groups in the USA, always taking words out of context and distorting the truth with outrageous accusations and total falsehoods. They are however, very astute at marketing their propaganda that plays on the "heart strings" of caring people.

 

How do they feel about rats? If their home was invaded by rats, gnawing and killing their pets and children, would they say "poor little ratties", bury their kids and say "that's life"? Do they go to the doctor and get shots to kill the viruses and germs invading their bodies, making them ill and causing death? Yes? then why? Viruses and germs are living creatures, and don't they have the same right to live and prosper?

 

PETA is a radical, fanatical group of people dispensing falsehoods and distortions as facts, and should be dealt with in the same vein as all fanatical groups. I put them in the same genre as the anti-abortionists who often resort to violence to make their very questionable points. I have never forgotten the stupid group of PETAs who walked up to me and my sister on the street in SF and threw a bucket of blood over my sister because she was wearing a fox jacket. Well, they had a cause, right, so they are excused in their violence against humans? What a useless, bunch of radical, totally dismissable people, who really, really, really, really need to face the facts of nature and go out and get a life!

[BuckyXTC]

Peta has

>nothing to gain except the protection of animals, whereas

>rodeos are big business.

>

 

Rick: I guess you also believe in the tooth fairy. Admittedly, rodeo is big business, but so what? PETA raises lots of money for itself by spreading disinformation about rodeo as a sport. If you want to go after animal abusers, you need to go after real culprits like those in Mexico who engage in horse tripping, which is exceedingly cruel and injures many animals, all of whom are then put to death, or perhaps the bullfights in Mexico or Spain.....where the bull is actually tortured and killed. Nothing like this exists in rodeo in the USA.

 

How about responding to an issue for me. Do you think rodeo livestock is better off spending 8 seconds a day in a rodeo, with most of their time spent in pastures grazing, or ending up on someone's table or in a pet's food dish?

[Rick Munroe]

>PETA is a radical, fanatical group of people dispensing

>falsehoods and distortions as facts

 

How are they doing that? Can you back this assertion up with any hard facts, as peta does on their site? I understand your anger (and the emotional nature of your post) because of what happened to your sister, but unless you can substantiate your allegations, how does anyone know that you aren't the one dispensing falsehoods and distorting facts?

[Flower]

t sound like they're being "staunchly protective"

>to me.

>

>

I'm not sure we need PETA, PRCA or any other group or organization to tell us what is and isn't the right way to treat animals.

 

I went through a period (when I was str8 }( )where I had and rode horses and was one of those weekend pretend cowboys. I went to Rodeos (watching only :+ ) and knew people in them. I never really thought about the propriety of it all until at one rodeo in my home town, I saw a calf have it's neck broken from the calf roping event--of course it had to be killed. That was the last time I went to the rodeo, despite the fact that it is very big where I live. Soon after I read of a bucking bronco paralyzed in a Las Vegas rodeo. In looking at the PETA website from your post, it seems like there are a multitude of similar injuries documented with many of the animal having to be "euthanized," and what I witnessed was not isolated.

 

I imagine that both the PRCA and PETA each have their own axes to grind, but discounting totalling each of their arguments and stats etc., we can see for ourselves what happens to these animals, and all the good food and dry stalls don't prepare them for or prevent a broken neck or back

 

I have always heard that the rodeo grew out of the maneuvers a working cowboy had to perform daily and thus was not only an extension of his work but honed needed skills and provided entertainment where there was none. I don't know that we have the need nor the justification to continue the practice now.

 

I might point out, having known a few rodeo cowboys, that they too suffer many serious injuries, but do it for the fun, the cash prizes or for whatever. Rodeo cowboys seem to be distinguished by obvious trauma related deformities and permanent injuries. The difference between the cowboys and the animals, is that the cowboys have a choice of sorts.

 

I have always wondered what made cock fights illegal and rodeo legal -- cruelty is cruelty. While the professional stock handlers and owners keep there stock in tip top condition, they only do so to enable them to be in prime condition to work, compete, entertain, and earn money. I guess by those standards, many slave owners can be morally absolved also :+

[VaHawk]

As I said, hook, line and sinker. And why do you in turn, assume that what PETA posts on their biased site constitute facts??? You are correct, in that my post has a lot to do with my personal situation, but I do believe that BuckXTC stated the true facts of the rodeo association from their web site which you in turn dissmissed as propaganda from the professional rodeo association web site. So let's see the pro rodeo website is profit driven propaganda, but the PETA web site only states unbiased totally unmotivated facts? You don't really believe that the organizers of PETA have no ulterior motives as far as personal financial benefit?

 

I would believe BuckXTC who has years of experience in the rodeo arena over anything those radical PETA people post on their web site!

 

I see these Pathetic Egocentric Total Assholes every hunting season in Va. blocking and protesting the deer hunters, despite the fact that there is a larger deer population now in 2003 than there was when the first colony was established in 1607! Yea, they care so much, that they ignore the facts that a lot of the deer starve to death every year due to lack of food and natural enemies, invade and destroy homeowners property and are a menace on the highways killing people every year when they jump in front of your car. Ever driven down the road at 65mph and have a deer jump on your hood? Ever walk down the sidewalk and have a rutting buck deer knock you down and run over you? Well plenty of people in the MD/DC/VA area do every year, including me, so the last thing we want to see is a bunch of uniformed animal rights fanatics spouting their bs!

 

I suppose I am being emotional, but really these PETA people are really uninformed, aggressive, sometimes violent and really out of line. I'm not disputing that their hearts are in the right place, but, unfortunately, imo, they have their heads up their asses!

[Flower]

Sorry you and your sister had the bucket of blood thing, and there is no excuse for that, however, as to the rest of your post, let me say this: Both viruses and rats are nuisances and present health hazards and physical dangers to us as humans--no one is saying, you need preserve all life no matter how detrimental it is to us. Obviously, as a specie and people, we need to protect ourselves and do what is necessary to survive.

 

But it is a very BIG AND ILLOGICAL LEAP to compare that with subjecting animals to injury and pain merely for HUMAN ENTERTAINMENT.

 

From your writings here, sometimes I detect a little compassion, so I'm willing to bet that if someone were to bring a calf to you and break it's neck in front of you, you would be shocked and outraged--is it any different because you spend $25-$100 to get into a rodeo and it only happens a few times or you aren't up close and personal but a few hundred feet away?

 

Personally, I would have a problem seeing a rat die a slow and painful death in a trap, although I can and do justify that. Virus and germs, on the other hand, I like to tease and torment to death :+

[Rick Munroe]

>why do you in turn,

>assume that what PETA posts on their biased site constitute

>facts???

 

Everything they state on their site is footnoted and backed up with facts. Some of the footnotes come from the PRCA's own site.

 

>BuckXTC

>stated the true facts of the rodeo association from their web

>site which you in turn dissmissed as propaganda

 

My exact words, which I chose carefully, were: "there are those who would consider the information you reprinted from the PRCA to be propaganda." I have no idea whether or not it is or isn't.

 

>I would believe BuckXTC who has years of experience in the

>rodeo arena over anything those radical PETA people post on

>their web site!

 

Peta has been around for years, too. :*

 

>I see these Pathetic Egocentric Total Assholes

 

You know, when you use childish putdowns like this, and when Bucky says things like "the PETA morons" and "the looney toons at PETA," it really doesn't further your cause, as far as I'm concerned. In my case, it just makes me tune out and skip to the next post.

[Rick Munroe]

>If you want to go after animal abusers, you

>need to go after real culprits like those in Mexico who engage

>in horse tripping, which is exceedingly cruel and injures many

>animals, all of whom are then put to death, or perhaps the

>bullfights in Mexico or Spain.....where the bull is actually

>tortured and killed. Nothing like this exists in rodeo in the

>USA.

 

That's kind of like saying that since women are treated so badly in Muslim countries, let's just let all the American rapists and abusers go free. Abuse is abuse. Just because it can be worse in other countries doesn't mean we should condone it here.

[VaHawk]

And all this time I thought you had a sense of humor. This imo, is not a putdown, just a weak attempt at a joke that expresses my true feelings about a group that I consider a bunch of hysterical, radical, often violent fanatics. This obviously is one point we will never agree upon, and that's okay as far as I'm concerned.

 

But I stand by my opinion of PETA, and despite your dismissal of BuckXTC and myself, I respect your opinions, but I still say regardless of how long PETA has been around, I feel that BuckXTC personal years of long experience in Rodeo far outweighs the mistruths of the propagandist PETA web site, most of whom know NOTHING about rodeo (what the hell I bet most can't tell a bull from a cow).

[taylorky]

have to agree with you flower,animal cruelty to entertain the yokels is unacceptable.

 

i've had horses my entire life been riding almost since i stopped shitting in my diapers and i have a profound love and respect for all animals esp;horses.

 

my mom has presented champions almost yearly until the last couple of years when she had to devote more time to her practice,and i always remember her showing nothing but care and compassion for all of her stock without regard to their status in the stable.

 

although it is true that animals place in life is to serve man, we have to realize that our stewardship does not give us the right to abuse them.

 

taylor

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[VaHawk]

Poor David, talk about your thread being hijacked!

 

No nastiness intended but I really think that both you and Rick have ventured out on the extremely fragile twigs on the tree. Really talk about an illogical leap, what about Rick's leap to abuse of women??? HUH????

 

If you and Rick are going to state outright that you eat only vegetables and fruit, then how can you condone the horrid, abusive conditions in which poultry and beef(especially calves for veal) are raised and pumped full of fattening chemicals? Not to mention tossing live sea animals into boiling water to be cooked alive to sate your appetities? Hypocrisy, no?

 

Are any of the shoes you slip your feet into made of leather? Own any leather jackets? Ever use glue? Ever wipe your car with a chamois cloth? Have you also eaten Jello? All come from animals slaughtered to sate your needs. At least the animals in rodeo have a chance at life, unlike the piggies raised in their own excretions in tiny little pens do, just so they can provide some bacon strips for your breakfast.

 

You and Rick, imho, are the types that PETA suck up to and syphon funds from, most of which goes into the admins pockets, I'm willing to wager.

 

PETA has some valid points, but imo, most of their points are based on misinformation leading to a distortion of the facts which they in turn state as unmitigated truths.

 

I would no sooner give funds to PETA than I would the IRA or the anti-abortion groups, who are all fanatics and advocate/condone violence against people to further their cause.