What Makes for Great Porn??? My top 10 list

[ready182]

Here's my list:

 

1. Live sound!!!

 

2. Show the "unwrapping" (taking off the pants/underwear).

 

3. Show the initial penetration. (I hate it when it's like "we now join this buttfuck already in progress")

 

4. Cum shots should result as part of the action -- not a mutual j/o at the end.

 

5. Of course, Hot participants.

 

6. I do like quality rimming activity.

 

7. Facial cum shots & cum eating are always a plus!!!

 

8. For personal reasons that I cannot discuss, I prefer that I personally do not appear in the movie (well, at least not my face).

 

9. I gotta mention production values, like quality lighting, camera angles, focus, etc.

 

10. And finally, the porn, preferably DVDs, should always be free

 

Ready

[Guest gentle guy]

My top 12 list

 

Well, I definitely agree with your first five. Let me add some more:

 

6. Affection and afterglow.

 

7. Multiple cum shots. I think everyone is entitled to at least 2 orgasms!

 

8. When the guy you think is going to be the bottom turns out to be the top.

 

9. Flip flops (role reversal, not footwear, lol).

 

10. Frottage! I know it is very difficult to film guys rubbing groins and cocks together, especially lying down, but it is so hot. Even hotter is frottage leading to orgasm, which is rarely shown.

 

11. I think they are called sandwich fucks--when one guy is topped while he is topping another guy. There should be one in every porn film!

 

12. Cumming--preferably hands-free--while being fucked doggie-style.

 

It should be obvious that my favorite director is Kristen Bjorn, although Michael Lucas shows promise! }(

[JamesK840]

RE: My top 12 list

 

I have often wondered why they don't show the initial penetration, the facial expressions, etc. Of course, it's worse when you can see great facial expressions, hear great vocalizations, but can also see that nothing is actually happening back there...!

 

And I hate the obvious loops they throw in to make it last longer, made worse by the crappy sound. Different angles of the same thing may be ok one after another, especially if they were well miced and mixed to emphasize one participant over the other as it switched, but not the exact same footage two or three times, especially when it includes something obvious.

 

Of course, you get what you pay for, and I haven't seen any of the ones with real budgets. How can they cost $50?? The one established pro from this board I've 'met' did the awkward showing me the boxes for the ones he'd stared in after our session, and said he gets them free... I wondered a little later if that was anything of an offer to give/sell them to me... That could be a great 'extra', any porn stars reading this...

[+ deej]

RE: My top 12 list

 

>Of course, you get what you pay for, and I haven't seen any of

>the ones with real budgets. How can they cost $50?? The one

>established pro from this board I've 'met' did the awkward

>showing me the boxes for the ones he'd stared in after our

>session, and said he gets them free... I wondered a little

>later if that was anything of an offer to give/sell them to

>me... That could be a great 'extra', any porn stars reading

>this...

 

Most of the studios give the stars copies of their own videos. They're intended as giveaways at personal appearances (club dates), but the guys find creative ways to liquidate the inventory.

 

What, you thought they paid wholesale for the autographed copies for sale on their websites? :o

[JamesK840]

RE: My top 12 list

 

No, and I have a pretty good idea what DVDs actually cost. I was more wondering if the escort happened to be making an offer. And if they get them free anyway and charge $300/hr, I think giving an autographed one to each client could be a great thing! An expensive way for clients to build their library, sure, but fun!

 

I'll tell you, having some idea of production, editing, and duplication, if the actors aren't making tens of thousands each/a large percentage, porn production is probably the most lucrative field on the planet! Well, that and Halliburton, but less people get fucked in porn production...

[Rick Munroe]

>3. Show the initial penetration. (I hate it when it's like

>"we now join this buttfuck already in progress")

 

I agree. I don't watch porn unless I'm really horny and no one's around -- as it happens, I'm always really horny but someone is always around. ;-) And I never watch while having sex with a real live person (if they have it playing, I don't look; I prefer to be in the moment) but when I'm alone and want to watch & get off, then this is my pet peeve: I too want to see that initial entry. The only time I recall seeing a slow, extremely hot, excrutiatingly slow penetration was in the video "Manrammer" (I don't remember the company; deej, can u help?). The top has a huge cock, and the bottom squats down over it, trying to get it in. It seems to go on forever; the bottom breaks out in a sweat; his body is tense and taut throughout; you can hear his actual moans of pain/pleasure. It's probably one of the hottest scenes I've ever seen.

[+ deej]

>The only time I recall seeing a

>slow, extremely hot, excrutiatingly slow penetration was in

>the video "Manrammer" (I don't remember the company; deej, can

>u help?).

 

Someone releases a video with that title about every 5 years. Not sure I can zero in on what you're thinking of.

 

Last one I saw was from Studio 2000 and fits your description, but they all do.

 

That has to be one of the most-used titles in gay porn.

[Rick Munroe]

Derek just told me it was Falcon.

[guyinsf]

Yes, that was a Falcon video called "Manrammer." I cannot recall either performer's name at the moment but I remember reading in a porn magazine (and we know how accurate their information always is!) that the top in that scene was only doing porn because he needed money for some surgery he had to have. The guy does have an incredibly big dick and did a few other videos as well, but I never thought he was particularly attractive beyond his big dick. (Of course sometimes that's enough. ;-) )

 

>>3. Show the initial penetration. (I hate it when it's

>like

>>"we now join this buttfuck already in progress")

>

>I agree. I don't watch porn unless I'm really horny and no

>one's around -- as it happens, I'm always really horny but

>someone is always around. ;-) And I never watch while having

>sex with a real live person (if they have it playing, I don't

>look; I prefer to be in the moment) but when I'm alone and

>want to watch & get off, then this is my pet peeve: I too want

>to see that initial entry. The only time I recall seeing a

>slow, extremely hot, excrutiatingly slow penetration was in

>the video "Manrammer" (I don't remember the company; deej, can

>u help?). The top has a huge cock, and the bottom squats down

>over it, trying to get it in. It seems to go on forever; the

>bottom breaks out in a sweat; his body is tense and taut

>throughout; you can hear his actual moans of pain/pleasure.

>It's probably one of the hottest scenes I've ever seen.

[guyinsf]

RE: My top 12 list

 

Well, the largest contributor (by far) to the San Francisco LGBT Center was Chuck Holmes' estate, and they ended up naming a "campus" of the Center for him. I got the impression from the press that Chuck Holmes came into this money from all the porn he produced (Falcon), not some other means such as an inheritance.

 

>No, and I have a pretty good idea what DVDs actually cost. I

>was more wondering if the escort happened to be making an

>offer. And if they get them free anyway and charge $300/hr, I

>think giving an autographed one to each client could be a

>great thing! An expensive way for clients to build their

>library, sure, but fun!

>

>I'll tell you, having some idea of production, editing, and

>duplication, if the actors aren't making tens of thousands

>each/a large percentage, porn production is probably the most

>lucrative field on the planet! Well, that and Halliburton,

>but less people get fucked in porn production...

[+ deej]

RE: My top 12 list

 

>I'll tell you, having some idea of production, editing, and

>duplication, if the actors aren't making tens of thousands

>each/a large percentage, porn production is probably the most

>lucrative field on the planet! Well, that and Halliburton,

>but less people get fucked in porn production...

 

Performers get paid for their scene ($1500 for an A-list performer on a big-budget film) and that's it.

 

All the profit goes to the studio.

[+ deej]

RE: My top 12 list

 

>Well, the largest contributor (by far) to the San Francisco

>LGBT Center was Chuck Holmes' estate, and they ended up naming

>a "campus" of the Center for him. I got the impression from

>the press that Chuck Holmes came into this money from all the

>porn he produced (Falcon), not some other means such as an

>inheritance.

 

Chuck Holmes was well known for his philanthropy.

 

Falcon Studios was actually founded as, and I believe still runs as, a non-profit company. They have plenty of for-profit companies under that umbrella ;-) but Falcon itself is non-profit.

[Guest ncm2169]

RE: My top 12 list

 

< porn production is probably the most lucrative field on the planet! Well, that and Halliburton, but less people get fucked in porn production... >

 

Ain't that the GODDAMN truth!! :+ :+ :+

[Guest alanm]

RE: My top 12 list

 

Falcon's non-profit status is a joke. The studio, and until recently

John Rutherford, gets all kinds of great press for its charitable

activity. Meanwhile, Falcon pays its models almost nothing. Clearly,

many guys get into porn to hype their escort business and charge high

fees. Others may have few choices given the porn pay scale. Of course,

Falcon is not alone in its low wages.

 

Hey, I'm glad Falcon "gives" back to the community. But, it would be nice to share more of that hugh non-profit money with the models in the videos. If you ever need a laugh get a guest membership to Falcon's on-line forum. All the regulars pretty much kissed Rutherford's ass and he returned the compliments. Note that the

forum is part of the monthly membership fee, which is fairly high.

But, it is a good cause -- a non-profit.

[FrancoDiSantisxxx]

The SHORT List

 

1. Hot sex

[Guest fukamarine]

RE: My top 12 list

 

>Falcon Studios was actually founded as, and I believe still

>runs as, a non-profit company. They have plenty of for-profit

>companies under that umbrella ;-) but Falcon itself is

>non-profit.

 

Hard to believe - if they are "non-profit" why do they get their nuts in a wringer if anyone uses their copyrighted material?

 

fukamarine

[ted]

RE: The SHORT List

 

Hard Cocks - It seems like half the guys are just going through the motions and not really into the scene at hand. If x is chowing down on y's cock, as a minimum at least y should be hard, and to be hot, x should show he's enjoying himself too. Surprising how many times that isn't the case. If y is getting fucked, it really isn't very hot if he's limp IMHO. Thats why I really like Rick Hammersmith and Derek Cameron vids, they really seem to get into it.

Show more of the actors than rods penetrating holes for 10 minutes straight. I agree I want to see the initial penetration, but I also want to be sure who is fucking whom, and be able to admire the bodies of both.

[+ deej]

RE: The SHORT List

 

Ted, if you like Rick Hammersmith you're going to LOVE "Monster Bang #4: Poke Prod Penetrate".

 

Hammersmith is in two scenes. One with Damian Ford and another with Michael Brandon (and the Michael Brandon "Monster" clone dildo). Watch for it in your favorite rental outlet.

 

Or buy it. It's one of the few DVD's that's hot enough from start to end to outright buy.

 

Hammersmith is indeed an impressive performer.

 

Oh, and they're having a "premiere" (again) for this video at the Nob Hill in SF on 8/9 (tomorrow) I think. Hammersmith and Brandon will be on hand doing whatever the Nob will allow. :9 Check out http://www.monsterbang.com for details.

[ted]

RE: The SHORT List

 

Actually I already have the video-and yes the action is sizzling and the performers are hot and into it - but there's too much hole close up and not enough of the rest of the bodies to be over the top in my estimation. The Matt Sizemore-Rick Hammersmith scene is the best as far as I'm concerned because they show more of the performers bodies. As far as the show at the Nob Hill - I only wish I could be in SFO this weekend-I actually am flying in on Thursday, darn. Rick not only is a sex pig(I mean that as a compliment), he's a class A exhibitionist too.(He's also a real nice guy) So this is guaranteed to be a hot hot session. And quite a bit has happened on the Nob Hill Stage so I expect a scorcher from this cast. Rick commented on the making of this film the last time I saw him - I won't say which of his co-stars he said was his best fuck ever :9 but it was one of the guys in this film

[+ deej]

RE: The SHORT List

 

Hammersmith isn't the only one who's talking, but he's the only member of the cast I haven't talked with. ;-)

 

Ir's really odd. They're ALL really enthusiastic about this video and rightfully so. And they all have a big shit-eating grin on their face when they talk about it. LOL