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bcohen7719 Mentor

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Will student debt push more young/fresh guys into escorting/XXXindustry/stripping?

 

http://media.npr.org/assets/img/2013/05/13/StudentLoans1-9e1e82495a46ce52943493bc52e8fe2ecad50695-s6-c30.jpg

 

On a more serious side, I've had some tentative experience with "Seeking Arrangement." Many,

many of the advertised male "sugar babies" are college students over their head

with costs and debt even while they are in school. Many share very sad stories.

 

Also, guys, I wouldn't recommend that website to this community. A great

% of contacts were regretfully naive. Some expected to be wined & dined, be given

gifts, etc., on a strictly platonic basis.

 

See below for more info.

 

BC

 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/15/sugar-baby-colleges_n_2475001.html

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One of the escorts I hired multiple times was a college student who was escorting on the "down low," meaning he never placed ads on any official escorting website and only occasionally put vague but clear enough ads on Craigslist. He wasn't a student in my area but returned frequently to visit family, and when he was in town he'd call me to see if I wanted to get together again. I always did because (a) he was very sexy; (b) he was a lot of fun in bed; © he was a nice guy; (d) he seemed genuinely interested in making me happy during the times we were together; and (e) compared to "pros," his rate was downright cheap. I offered to review him on HooBoy's website (yes, this was about a decade ago) but he didn't want that kind of publicity. I never asked him how many clients he had, but it seemed like he was more than content to just have a few regulars that he could see during school breaks. I was happy for him that he graduated college and moved on, even though it meant he stopped escorting and I never saw him again.

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Also, guys, I wouldn't recommend that website to this community. A great

% of contacts were regretfully naive. Some expected to be wined & dined, be given

gifts, etc., on a strictly platonic basis.

 

 

Well I'd imagine on the opposite end, clients probably expect more of a 'relationship' than simply paying and being on their way. I know people who ended up eventually living with people like that, but I don't know how people can live at the mercy of 1 person always holding something over your head, including a roof.

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in theory it should but in actual practice the young ones usually cant get it hard and stay hard unless they are attracted to the other guy (the client) . I have seen dozens wash out of the biz like this. The biz is not as simple as it looks...even for hotties!

 

Many guys would like to escort but even with Viagra they don't have the stomach to do it.

 

When you were young did you ever imaging yourself having sex with your dad's friends?

 

I think escorting is like the ability to be a teacher or been able to learn a foreign language, your either cut for it or you just can't do it no matter how much you try.

 

I agree with Mikey9nola, is hard to give up easy money, even if for some who don't "have the stomach" is not so easy.

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Many guys would like to escort but even with Viagra they don't have the stomach to do it.

 

When you were young did you ever imaging yourself having sex with your dad's friends?

 

Exactly. I couldn't get hard for a guy much older than me, didn't have daddy fantasies, etc. I lived in Baltimore near a corner frequented by hustlers (in the later 1970s, early 80s) and was sometimes mistaken for one by a guy in a car. I thought about it . . . but knew I wouldn't be able to perform.

 

It was only in my 30s that I began to find myself attracted to men older than me. (And was still attracted to guys younger than me.)

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Many guys would like to escort but even with Viagra they don't have the stomach to do it.

 

When you were young did you ever imaging yourself having sex with your dad's friends?

 

I think escorting is like the ability to be a teacher or been able to learn a foreign language, your either cut for it or you just can't do it no matter how much you try.

 

I agree with Mikey9nola, is hard to give up easy money, even if for some who don't "have the stomach" is not so easy.

 

These are great insights! What innate abilities do you think professional escorts

possess?

 

I often wondered if escorts had extraordinary abilities to "zone out"

and imagine/visualize they were having sex with someone their own age.

 

I've heard of the psychological process of "doubling," where one adopts

another personality for practical purposes. That, plus viagra...?

 

BC

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These are great insights! What innate abilities do you think professional escorts

possess?

 

I often wondered if escorts had extraordinary abilities to "zone out"

and imagine/visualize they were having sex with someone their own age.

 

I've heard of the psychological process of "doubling," where one adopts

another personality for practical purposes. That, plus viagra...?

 

BC

 

On occasion I meet with guys I actually enjoy being intimate with... like say, most of the time. The idea that some of you think escorts have to "zone out" with Viagra, visualization and other mental tricks is equal parts funny, strange and sad.

 

And for the last time, men can be attracted to someone who isn't their own age. Escorts included.

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On occasion I meet with guys I actually enjoy being intimate with... like say, most of the time. The idea that some of you think escorts have to "zone out" with Viagra, visualization and other mental tricks is equal parts funny, strange and sad.

 

And for the last time, men can be attracted to someone who isn't their own age. Escorts included.

 

I did not intend to be argumentative about this. I was drawing upon

experiences in "Seeking Arrangements." Most of the young guys on there seem to be in their late teens (18, 19) or early 20's. I've heard from 4 or 5 of them that most of the older guys

are in their late 50's or mid 60's, even a some in their 70's. I can understand emotional dependency of a young guy on someone more than twice their age. I never really believed in true "gerontophilia"

but this is not to say I'd be delighted (thrilled!) if it really existed. I absolutely respect other viewpoints on this, and can't cite any studies one way or another on this. I wish there were some.

 

BC

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I did not intend to be argumentative about this. I was drawing upon

experiences in "Seeking Arrangements." Most of the young guys on there seem to be in their late teens (18, 19) or early 20's. I've heard from 4 or 5 of them that most of the older guys

are in their late 50's or mid 60's, even a some in their 70's. I can understand emotional dependency of a young guy on someone more than twice their age. I never really believed in true "gerontophilia"

but this is not to say I'd be delighted (thrilled!) if it really existed. I absolutely respect other viewpoints on this, and can't cite any studies one way or another on this. I wish there were some.

 

BC

 

If anyone wants to read more about this issue,

see below.

 

BC

 

http://carnalnation.com/content/49791/999/gerontophilia

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On occasion I meet with guys I actually enjoy being intimate with... like say, most of the time. The idea that some of you think escorts have to "zone out" with Viagra, visualization and other mental tricks is equal parts funny, strange and sad.And for the last time, men can be attracted to someone who isn't their own age. Escorts included.

 

Thank you thank you thank you Chris.....I so needed someone to say that this afternoon. I have recently been pursued by a 20 something dancer from a local club. Yes heavy tipping was involved early on, however after countless text messages to me wanting nothing more than to just hang out over a long weekend, one has to think that there is a desire just beyond the "Wham bam thank you Ma am".....I am guessing that I actually bring something to the table that he finds interesting. OK OK...I'm paying for the Margaritas, but I don't expect a complete 50/50 split here.

 

And then there is an escort in my old "stomping grounds" who wants to come to FTL, and I am assuming that it is just to hang out. Should I acquire the funds to do so, I would send for him in a "New York Minute" I love that man to death....Oh one of these ol days.

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On occasion I meet with guys I actually enjoy being intimate with... like say, most of the time. The idea that some of you think escorts have to "zone out" with Viagra, visualization and other mental tricks is equal parts funny, strange and sad.

 

And for the last time, men can be attracted to someone who isn't their own age. Escorts included.

 

Chris, I like your M4Rent ad! It makes the point. Good escorts enjoy what they do and get authentically aroused with a variety of guys. Finding something you enjoy and are good at and there's a market for--that's how to succeed in any service profession.

 

Not everyone, obviously, is suited to escorting. And some trying to work in the field aren't that into it and are doing it for the money, in spite of not really enjoying it.

 

The first guy I hired was a street hustler. He was clearly straight, closed his eyes, and thought of someone else while I sucked his cock. Eventually he finished by jerking himself off (which I happened to find hot).

 

Years later, I hired an actual escort (through a service) for the first time. He was about 21, boyish, and came to my hotel room. I was in my late 30s. He got very aroused when we started making out and we had very hot, wonderful, fantastic sex. I occasionally jerk off to the memory of it. He didn't need Viagra (which hadn't hit the market yet, anyway, I think) or to think of anyone else.

 

And you are SO right that there are guys attracted to men a different age than themselves. I am in my mid-fifties, and my bf just turned 23. He finds my belly and my gray chest hair quite arousing. And before I met him, I found plenty of young guys attracted to me.

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I agree with Chris and the rest of you that reference great attraction and stimulation between guys of different ages, builds, etc. I have always said that there is someone for everyone, and they are all not 20 somethings with "perfect" builds, etc., etc., etc. That phenomena is what makes life so interesting. Over the years, I have been blessed to have interacted with guys over a wide spectrum of age, build, intellect, etc. Some of them became long term friends with benefits, and others moved on, as did I. But some of those who moved on, so to speak, remain friends and we laugh and joke about our special times together, even though neither one of us has the urge to repeat that time in our lives.

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I've been both late March and early September with men. But, I have always preferred women in their early 20s for sex, and over 40 for everything else. Since I've been that younger guy, I know for sure that the attraction can be genuine and highly sexual.

 

As someone who prefers older men, I second that. I have to believe that some young men feel the same way.

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As someone who prefers older men' date=' I second that. I have to believe that some young men feel the same way.[/quote']

 

Thirty years ago I had a white-collar job in a small office. Two people escorted, one women, one man -- both in the their 20s.

 

Now (much older, of course) I spend a lot of time around college students. I am taking college courses myself, since Jan. 2006. It's relatively easy to get to know the male students, sometimes very well. Perhaps I have lost my escort radar and my ear for gossip. But if college students are having sex for money, I suspect the numbers are very low. Students are concerned about paying student loans, but most, not all, see it as a problem for the distant future.

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Thirty years ago I had a white-collar job in a small office. Two people escorted, one women, one man -- both in the their 20s.

 

Now (much older, of course) I spend a lot of time around college students. I am taking college courses myself, since Jan. 2006. It's relatively easy to get to know the male students, sometimes very well. Perhaps I have lost my escort radar and my ear for gossip. But if college students are having sex for money, I suspect the numbers are very low. Students are concerned about paying student loans, but most, not all, see it as a problem for the distant future.

 

There are 3 major universities and at least half-a-dozen smaller colleges/universities within a 20-mile radius of me, and looking at the 3 escort sites (M4RN, RM& RB) plus A4A, CL & Backpage, in any week see less than half-a dozen advertising.

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