I will probably regret this

[operalover21]

We were hired by this same client and also traveled by car from Chicago to his hometown of Grand Rapids. (We actually arrived the night before and stayed over at our own expense, so we'd be well-rested for him and ready on time in the morning). It's kind of shocking to see him referred to as controlling and demanding when he's anything but. Sure, he has specific clothing requests, but many clients do (wear a jock, wear tight jeans, don't dress too slutty for my nice hotel lobby, etc). But he's also very accommodating (providing snacks for us that we'd requested, at his suggestion), very low-key and very easy to be with.

 

As far as the cell phone usage, it's sadly what many younger people think is perfectly acceptable to do when having a meal or hanging out with someone. Although, you'd think an escort in his 30s would be mature enough to understand that you just don't do it on the job.

 

And, of course, your experience with this client tells us ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about Mr. Baldwin's experience with this client, does it? Everyone's experience is individual and often has no relation to what a different person experiences with the same person.

 

This isn't even remotely illustrative of the situation but thanks for playing the game!

[bigvalboy]

I think Tristan is trying to do too much. I think he gets worn down, gets cranky, and forgets his manners. He's trying to run a business, escort, body-build and on and on. It's almost like he feels his clock is ticking and wants to make as much money as possible while he can. The stress of traveling alone is enough to put someone over the edge these days. I've said before, I had a limited contact with Tristan once upon a time and he seemed genuinely concerned about his clients and was a truly nice guy. I think that nice guy is still in there somewhere.. but these antics he's been pulling lately suggest that he's overworking himself.

 

Ding ding ding....I think you hit the nail on the head....While I have not hired Tristan, I have talked at length with several members who have, since he is on my "to do" list. All of the members that I have talked to, know Tristan on a personal level as well as an escort level. They all spoke very highly of him. That being said however, it was mentioned that he was trying to fit too many things into his life. I wish him the best and I am damn sorry that I will miss him in PS....Had I known he was going, I would have made a more concerted effort to attend.

[bigvalboy]

Ain't dat de truff!!!! Holy crap if another Cuss-some-more Lack O' Service person asks me about my day or uses any other delaying tactics/time fillers that delay the expeditious conclusion of my transaction, I'm gonna scream! A greeting is Hello! or How are you? NOT "HOW'S YOUR DAY GOING SO FAR?" ARGHH!, TIME ISN'T A DISTANCE! TIME IS NEITHER NEAR NOR FAR, YET IT IS FLEETING! SHUT UP AND FINISH MY TRANSACTION SO I CAN GET OUT OF HERE!

 

I DO apologize IF you were offended by my post.

 

Sadly most large corporations with employees dealing directly with the public FORCE their employees to say these type of greetings. They also employ "mystery shoppers" to make sure the employees are doing it correctly. I was told by a Target manager that if they fail to greet properly and fail to show interest and enthusiasm toward a customer then there are ramifications toward the employee. I always laugh and joke with them about being forced to pretend that they care about me. Every grocery, retail store like Target etc, forces their employees to say a scripted greeting. I am even beginning to encounter these greetings in the smaller retail stores, and almost every time I call a company, the greeting is as phony as well. A phone call to customer service or a quick letter to corporate headquarters says a lot.

 

I was in a Sprint store the other day and the manager was helping me set up a new phone. Every time a customer came through the door, he would stop and greet the customer and tell them that he would be with them within 5 min. It got annoying, so I asked if the greeting was mandatory. He told me that not only was it mandatory, but the company gave him only 10 seconds to greet a customer, once they entered the store....(sigh)

[+ Gar1eth]

As a newcomer here, this thread is most interesting and informative. I think I will keep my initial (if not all) hiring to hourly appointments.

Thank you one and all.

 

Just a quick word on this. Even when I was a newbie, I found I preferred 2 hour appointments. One hour was just too rushed. Now depending what you are into or your own personal physiology- maybe you are fine with coming in, undressing, and getting off fairly quickly. But again it always seemed rushed to me.

 

Gman

[Rick Munroe]

And, of course, your experience with this client tells us ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about Mr. Baldwin's experience with this client, does it? Everyone's experience is individual and often has no relation to what a different person experiences with the same person.

 

This isn't even remotely illustrative of the situation but thanks for playing the game!

 

I must admit that you are absolutely correct and I cannot argue with you there. My post about this particular client and my personal experience with him has absolutely nothing to add to the conversation whatsoever. Oh, if only I had stayed on topic like you, and discussed such things as phone etiquette when calling a business or that annoying cashier the other day in Whole Foods who kept wanting to talk about the leeks you were purchasing. Thank you so very much for this lesson in how to substantively add to a thread!

[maninsoma]

I found myself only half-sympathizing with both the client and Tristan. I can understand the client being irritated by the cell phone use (particularly during a meal), but some of his other complaints had me wondering if he wasn't just trying to amass enough ammo for his attack. And Tristan really blew it in his response. Not knowing him at all, I suspect some other posters have hit the nail on the head: He's probably over-extending himself. He basically described that in his response, though I'm not sure he realized it. And why would anyone drive a few hours each way to visit someone in exchange for a rate at which they're going to end up feeling resentful?

 

As to the overnight issue, I hired someone regularly for years and enjoyed sleeping with him, waking up next to him, etc. I got what I viewed as a significantly discounted rate, but I was not a particularly demanding client: Sex once before sleep, and sex after morning coffee. And while the escort in question had good enough social skills to actually pay attention to me during meals and while hanging out in the morning, I also wasn't so uptight that I minded if he had to take a few phone calls in the morning before he left. I think the arrangement worked out well for both of us, and we still maintain a friendship.

[operalover21]

I must admit that you are absolutely correct and I cannot argue with you there. My post about this particular client and my personal experience with him has absolutely nothing to add to the conversation whatsoever. Oh, if only I had stayed on topic like you, and discussed such things as phone etiquette when calling a business or that annoying cashier the other day in Whole Foods who kept wanting to talk about the leeks you were purchasing. Thank you so very much for this lesson in how to substantively add to a thread!

 

You're very welcome. Have a nice day

[JT Brooklyn]

As a newcomer here, this thread is most interesting and informative. I think I will keep my initial (if not all) hiring to hourly appointments.

Thank you one and all.

 

Welcome bomerrang! As far as Time spent with a Working Guy they can vary greatly depending on the Client & Working Guy and their Chemistry. Some guys you will find after the "initial" meeting that 2 Hours will work great for both of you especially if the guy meets your needs for "company". IF your the "Slam Bam Type" of Client as some have been for year's NO Repeats with a Working Guy then the Hour is great!

[bostonnycguy]

And, of course, your experience with this client tells us ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about Mr. Baldwin's experience with this client, does it? Everyone's experience is individual and often has no relation to what a different person experiences with the same person.

 

This isn't even remotely illustrative of the situation but thanks for playing the game!

 

What a fucking asshole you are Opera Lover - and just stupid as well. OF COURSE Rick's experience in relevant to the experience of the Poster and Baldwin. I think you should go to a matinee today - there's a Blue Hair Special at the MET I imagine.

 

Thanks Rick for your insight and contribution.

[JT Brooklyn]

What a fucking asshole you are Opera Lover - and just stupid as well. OF COURSE Rick's experience in relevant to the experience of the Poster and Baldwin. I think you should go to a matinee today - there's a Blue Hair Special at the MET I imagine.

 

Thanks Rick for your insight and contribution.

 

Indubidably!

[operalover21]

What a fucking asshole you are Opera Lover - and just stupid as well. OF COURSE Rick's experience in relevant to the experience of the Poster and Baldwin. I think you should go to a matinee today - there's a Blue Hair Special at the MET I imagine.

 

Thanks Rick for your insight and contribution.

 

Thank you, novice, for your contribution to civilized discourse and art of name-calling. Go out there and have a great day!

[bigvalboy]

I must admit that you are absolutely correct and I cannot argue with you there. My post about this particular client and my personal experience with him has absolutely nothing to add to the conversation whatsoever. Oh, if only I had stayed on topic like you, and discussed such things as phone etiquette when calling a business or that annoying cashier the other day in Whole Foods who kept wanting to talk about the leeks you were purchasing. Thank you so very much for this lesson in how to substantively add to a thread!

 

Pay him no mind Rick.....Bless his little heart, he is doing the very best he can.

[bostonnycguy]

I call them like I see them Opera Lover - your polite language and light banter style ("have a great day") don't hide the true spirit behind your nasty comments and remarks.

[instudiocity]

As a newcomer here, this thread is most interesting and informative. I think I will keep my initial (if not all) hiring to hourly appointments.

Thank you one and all.

Bomer, you're making a good point. Before you get into an long-appt: overnights, all-day, it's good to start with an hour, or two. A couple of times, I've asked a guy to coffee just to decide if I want to spend an hour naked with him. Some guys will schedule a 15 minute go-see in LA, some won't. I've taken the next step every time but once. That one time, after 10 minutes of jabber, I said, "I appreciate you meeting me. I don't think I want to proceed with an appointment. Can I give you $50 for your trouble?" And ended it there.

 

Welcome bomerrang! As far as Time spent with a Working Guy they can vary greatly depending on the Client & Working Guy and their Chemistry. Some guys you will find after the "initial" meeting that 2 Hours will work great for both of you especially if the guy meets your needs for "company". IF your the "Slam Bam Type" of Client as some have been for year's NO Repeats with a Working Guy then the Hour is great!

It NEVER hurts to invest in an hour or two before blowing a wad of cash on an extended appt.

[instudiocity]

What a fucking asshole you are Opera Lover...

 

Indubidably!

 

Thank you, novice, for your contribution to civilized discourse and art of name-calling. Go out there and have a great day!

 

Pay him no mind Rick.....Bless his little heart, he is doing the very best he can.

 

I call them like I see them Opera Lover - your polite language and light banter style ("have a great day") don't hide the true spirit behind your nasty comments and remarks.

 

It would appear that operalover21 has added a little four letter word to his handle again - SOAP!

I'll have a Slaughterhouse Five Pizza with a twelve-pack of Fat Tire...

[bigvalboy]

I'll have a Slaughterhouse Five Pizza with a twelve-pack of Fat Tire...

 

 

That there is some damn good beer....I loves me some Fat Tire.

[Michael Wayne]

I just read the entire thread with interest. My conversation with the escort in question a year or so ago was marvelous and I have always wanted to meet him but we never have actually crossed paths. I will also say that EVERY CLIENT that I have been with who has actually met the escort in question says he is a truly amazing and wonderful person. Now we all have bad days and NO ONE (not even escorts of the year) can bat a thousand. As far as to the heart of the issue: the mobile device. I turn my ringer off to vibrate during my time with a client wheter it is one hour, two hours or overnight. I never look at it at dinner. I try to give the client 100% of my attention. I find that during overnights or weekends there is ALWAYS a time when the client has to take care of some biz on his phone either for work or family issues. While the client is doing that I will go to a private setting and take care of my biz. This is a mutually agreed upon break. As soon as client is ready for me again the phone is put away...... Personally I love overnights but I must say to perform at my peak I do need some sleep. I find the client enjoys sleeping together knowing that I will wake up with some serious WOOD in the middle of the night needing some attention. I also love morning fucking and building up a huge appetite before a satisfying breakfast in a different city. http://www.rentmen.com/mikeyusatop

[William]

We were hired by this same client and also traveled by car from Chicago to his hometown of Grand Rapids. (We actually arrived the night before and stayed over at our own expense, so we'd be well-rested for him and ready on time in the morning). It's kind of shocking to see him referred to as controlling and demanding when he's anything but. Sure, he has specific clothing requests, but many clients do (wear a jock, wear tight jeans, don't dress too slutty for my nice hotel lobby, etc). But he's also very accommodating (providing snacks for us that we'd requested, at his suggestion), very low-key and very easy to be with.

 

As far as the cell phone usage, it's sadly what many younger people think is perfectly acceptable to do when having a meal or hanging out with someone. Although, you'd think an escort in his 30s would be mature enough to understand that you just don't do it on the job.

 

 

Rick, thanks for your post. It contains relevant information, in my opinion, and reflects the generous perspective you and your partner always seem to carry for your clients (an honor roll that includes me).

 

As for Tristan, all of my experiences with him have been super-good. He is an awesome lover, has a phenomenal body, and is an all-round great guy.

 

Like most other clients, I am demanding in some respects and completely undemanding in others. I am pretty demanding in the personal hygiene and accuracy-of-photos department--but am more relaxed on the issue of scheduling, mainly because I am so difficult to schedule. Indeed, appointments are slipping through my schedule all the time.

[McLeanspider]

As a newcomer here, this thread is most interesting and informative. I think I will keep my initial (if not all) hiring to hourly appointments.

Thank you one and all.

 

Me too, I'd rather hiring for 1 hour and I am really fascinated with one guy, I would hire him at night and after breakfast in the morning. Overnights are fun if you are in love, but they are a waste of time if you are hiring someone just to sleep next to you.

[+ Gar1eth]

Me too, I'd rather hiring for 1 hour and I am really fascinated with one guy, I would hire him at night and after breakfast in the morning. Overnights are fun if you are in love, but they are a waste of time if you are hiring someone just to sleep next to you.

 

I'm not saying I would want to do overnights with all the escorts I've been with. But usually I make it like a vacation or a date when I have an overnight or a weekend- because of my solitary-ness- it might be the only chance for me to go to a play/movie/ or resort type weekend because I hate going by myself. I'm not one of those guys who enjoys people watching- at least not when I'm alone so much. It's just a crushing reminder that I'm alone. So after a date situation/boyfriend experience- I would feel awfully alone if he left after sex. Now for you guys who don't need escorts to make up for a lack of a social life- I can understand just wanting the fun time- and then your time to yourself. But when you spend a majority of your time alone, with the right escort it's nice having an adult type weekend with a pretend boyfriend.

 

Gman

[MalcomXpark]

I'm not saying I would want to do overnights with all the escorts I've been with. But usually I make it like a vacation or a date when I have an overnight or a weekend- because of my solitary-ness- it might be the only chance for me to go to a play/movie/ or resort type weekend because I hate going by myself. I'm not one of those guys who enjoys people watching- at least not when I'm alone so much. It's just a crushing reminder that I'm alone. So after a date situation/boyfriend experience- I would feel awfully alone if he left after sex. Now for you guys who don't need escorts to make up for a lack of a social life- I can understand just wanting the fun time- and then your time to yourself. But when you spend a majority of your time alone, with the right escort it's nice having an adult type weekend with a pretend boyfriend.

 

Gman

 

you have a point but I'd rather keeping the $ to myself, besides great sex just puts me to sleep.

[McLeanspider]

if you are being paid to be with someone for lunch or just sex, put the phone on vibrate and take a few breaks to go to the restroom to reply to texts, emails and phone calls.

 

I think it's common sense!

[instudiocity]

if you are being paid to be with someone for lunch or just sex, put the phone on vibrate and take a few breaks to go to the restroom to reply to texts, emails and phone calls.

 

I think it's common sense!

 

LOL! HOOT! If it were COMMON sense, no one would ever complain about it. ROFL!

[MrBigTL]

Common Sense is not common :-)

[instudiocity]

Common Sense is not common :-)

Are you saying, common sense is uncommon? Then it couldn't be common... come on!

 

Etiquette isn't common sense. If it were, we wouldn't have books and books of Etiquette delineating the rules of proper behavior.

 

Learning to disengage from your smartphone while in the company of a customer is a rule of etiquette, albeit common etiquette. It's nonverbal way to communicate to the customer that he is the most important person in your presence. Burying one's head in a smartphone or computer in front of a customer communicates that the customer is no longer central to one's thoughts.

 

I know this because I'm a salesman. I hate using a computer or smartphone in front of a customer. I hate having people to that to me when I'm a customer. And furthermore, I DESPISE when telephone customer service people are so busy reading a script off their computer screen that they cannot engage me in a simple discussion.