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A NYC special ed teacher and former model was fired for using school account to arrange hookups and post pictures on Craigslist... Does the punishment fit the "crime"?.. Btw, anyone ever use the gay APP "Hornet" that's mentioned in this article?

 

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/boneheaded_account_teacher_caught_EmuIjx3BGZbybhvhKoK1vN

 

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Teacher mentioned in this article is the one on the left.

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A NYC special ed teacher and former model was fired for using school account to arrange hookups and post pictures on Craigslist... Does the punishment fit the "crime"?...

 

In my opinion, yes. I do not believe the story about the shared email account being "accidentally" used. It should not have been inked to his phone.

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Big mistake but one he can't blame anyone else for. I do hope that this teacher can get a teaching job elsewhere - his mistake cost him his job - isn't enough to cost him his career. Americans are too punitive. And if he were to start escorting - stay away for the first couple of days so I can be first :)

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Double dumbass points: it was a shared email account. Not only that, it was set up by the person he was sharing it with.

 

However, there are mitigating factors here. The emails were sent from his phone, and I know from personal experience that it can be a surprise when a software upgrade switches your default email account without telling you. It happened to me the last time iOS updated itself. Fortunately, the first email I sent from my phone after that update was to myself so I caught the incorrect "from" address.

 

So he's a dumbass, but he probably had help being a dumbass.

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However, there are mitigating factors here. The emails were sent from his phone, and I know from personal experience that it can be a surprise when a software upgrade switches your default email account without telling you. It happened to me the last time iOS updated itself. Fortunately, the first email I sent from my phone after that update was to myself so I caught the incorrect "from" address.

 

So he's a dumbass, but he probably had help being a dumbass.

 

Clearly:

 

But he said he had sent the emails during non-work hours using his cellphone, which had automatically linked up a number of his email accounts — including the one from PS 183.

 

The messages were sent on Sundays and early Friday mornings, investigators found.

 

“Those accounts must of [sic] interchanged accidentally,” he told his co-teacher in an emailed apology, according to the probe.

Meaning he didn't INTENTIONALLY send them from his phone. They automatically lnked. I'm not sure exactly how that works though. But I don't think we should be calling this guy an idiot or whatever. I think he might even have a good discrimination lawsuit on his hands, if it turns out it was un-intentional. He did it during non-work hours using HIS cellphone. He shouldn't have gotten fired. It was a technical error.

 

America and it's 'system' is 1 giant hypocrite country. They want to scream 'stop bullying' to the kids who beat gay kids, yet the system itself builies the teachers when they are found out to be openly gay AND what that may involve. You can be gay, but if you slip up...you're done. Be gay, JUST don't do things gay people do like porn, craigslist or apps. What happens between 2 consenting adults...not an adult and school-aged kids. These kids are confused. And the BS about there's 'kids' involved means little. Those kids are all a bunch of snotty-nosed, growing facial hair and tities at 9 years old, over hormonalized soon to be getting STDs at 12 years old any damn way.

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Clearly:

 

 

Meaning he didn't INTENTIONALLY send them from his phone. They automatically lnked. I'm not sure exactly how that works though. But I don't think we should be calling this guy an idiot or whatever. I think he might even have a good discrimination lawsuit on his hands, if it turns out it was un-intentional. He did it during non-work hours using HIS cellphone. He shouldn't have gotten fired. It was a technical error.

 

I agree. We have at my company what we call "progressive discipline". Yes, there are some infractions that result in immediate termination but this wouldn't have been one of them. Suspension, time spent at the principals home doing household chores (with the furnace turned up high), light spanking at the same house....and for sure issuing a reminder to everyone about care in using emails and computers, etc. would get the message out there that there that something happened others should learn from. I feel this way in particular because the guy didn't lie and even apologized.

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Meaning he didn't INTENTIONALLY send them from his phone. They automatically lnked. I'm not sure exactly how that works though. But I don't think we should be calling this guy an idiot or whatever. I think he might even have a good discrimination lawsuit on his hands, if it turns out it was un-intentional. He did it during non-work hours using HIS cellphone. He shouldn't have gotten fired. It was a technical error.

 

Perhaps someone in the education field could confirm this but it was my understanding that a non-tenured teacher could be released/fired without a reason. Had this teacher been tenured he could be removed from the classroom but would be entitled to a hearing on these "charges" and would remain on salary.

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I guess the lesson we can learn from this is that beauty and brains rarely go together.

 

Well I have met plenty of beauties with brains, and quite a few were escorts, so i don't agree with you Lee.

 

What did he do specifically that deserved him being fired? Were children being put at risk? Was he doing anything illegal? The email account wasn't even a school official email account but rather a gmail account. His explanation is plausible and seems he is being quite open about it to those investigating. I have a hard time seeing how the punishment fit the crime, if in fact one can really identify a crime.

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What did he do specifically that deserved him being fired?

 

Deserved? Probably not, in a reasonable world.

 

But we're talking about a schoolteacher, and a special ed teacher at that. They exist in mommy world, and they know it. ANYTHING a teacher does -- even on his or her own time -- that gets all the mommy panties in a bunch can get a teacher removed. All those mommies expect all teachers to be "Marian, the Librarian".

 

It's just a real dumbass thing to do and entirely preventable by thinking it through ahead of time.

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Well I have met plenty of beauties with brains, and quite a few were escorts, so i don't agree with you Lee.

 

What did he do specifically that deserved him being fired? Were children being put at risk? Was he doing anything illegal? The email account wasn't even a school official email account but rather a gmail account. His explanation is plausible and seems he is being quite open about it to those investigating. I have a hard time seeing how the punishment fit the crime, if in fact one can really identify a crime.

 

The operative word in my was was rarely. Yes I've met more than a few with brains and beauty. Those are the gems. And I've met more than a few airheads too.

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The operative word in my was was rarely. Yes I've met more than a few with brains and beauty. Those are the gems. And I've met more than a few airheads too.

 

Perhaps that is the difference as my experience has been rarely meeting beauties who were airheads,quite the opposite of your experiences apparently.

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In the 1958 American musical romantic comedy Gigi Maurice Chevalier sings the song “I’m Glad I’m Not Young Anymore”. As someone who taught in a public high school for thirty six year I sure as hell can relate. In our current culture whatever goes go wrong with a student’s learning the fault is ALWAYS the school. The parent is NEVER at fault, the student is NEVER at fault; the teacher is ALWAYS at fault. If a student is suspended because he calls the teacher a “fucking bitch” the parent(s) rush to school and demand to know what the teacher did to elicit such a reaction from their darling child. If a student fails a class the parents rush to school and demand to know what the teacher did to turn their darling child off to learning. If a teacher cautions a student that unless he/she begins to work harder he/she might have to repeat the class the parents rush to school and demand that the teacher me severely reprimanded for damaging their darling child’s self-esteem. These are not made-up situations they are ones that I saw happen over and over again during my final years of teaching.

 

In California a probationary teacher can be dismissed at the end of their first or second year without stated cause. The only caveat is they must be notified my March 1st of the year in which they are being dismissed. After the first day of the third year it takes a great deal of due process on the part of the Principal to get rid of a tenured teacher. It doesn’t happen often because many principals are too lazy and inept to follow the process through.

 

Any teacher worth his/her salt keeps their back to the wall and knows that they are under a microscope at all times – it simply goes with the territory. When I first started teaching in the mid 60’s my principal cautioned me not to buy liquor within the city in which I taught and NEVER to go to a local bar – so things have improved in certain areas

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When it comes to someone who has been through the wars and been in the trenches, I have always found it wise to listen to Epigonos.

 

It sure isn't like when I was in school, when my parents made sure I sat in on the parent-teachers conference in 1st grade. We knew my teacher from church. And my parents told her that if I got out of line, she had their permission to spank me, no questions asked, and I would get a second round at home. No questions asked. Guess what? That got the message through. Loud and clear.

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