Social versus sexual time

[unsub2O17]

I may be the odd man out here but that won't be anything new. I NEVER hire for one hour. I ALWAYS hire for either lunch or dinner (the escorts choice) and then two hours of play time. For that amount of time I expect to pay between $500 and $600.

 

I recently contacted an escort who informed me that his hourly rate was $250 and that my suggestion would require a minimum of three hours thus his fee would be $750. I thanked him and apologized for wasting his time explaining that his fee was out of my range. He countered by asking me what was my range. I informed him that I found his question difficult in that I NEVER bargained with an escort regarding his fee. I told him that my range was $500 to $600 but that I wasn't asking him do accept that amount and that if he offered to do so I would feel uncomfortable meeting under those circumstances.

 

After ten years of hiring escorts I have decided that it is my way or no way. Yes I know that is an arrogant, egotistical, self-centered attitude -- so be it.

 

You're not "odd man out" here. You're mainstream. You expect to pay for social time--just, perhaps, at a discounted rate. And look what happened when the escort expected to be paid for his social time with you! You missed out on a potentially wonderful afternoon/evening, and he lost out on a client.

[unsub2O17]

Thank you all for your responses. And, especially you, Max, for giving an escort's perspective. I will try not to "over think" this or be too cynical. A simple way is E's way (it's out of my price range) or DG's (I can get a dinner companion elsewhere). Whether or not an escort "should" charge the same for social as for sexual time is one issue for him to decide. And whether or not I "should" expect to be asked for and to pay it, is another issue for me to decide. Now, there's gray for you.

[BostonPhil]

So a potential client contacts me and says "I would like to hire you for two hours, what would the rate be?"

 

I quote back a discounted amount for the time.

 

In another situation a client says "I would like to hire you for an hour for dinner and an hour of other time. What is your dinner rate?"

 

I would have to say "I charge for my time only, my hourly rate is $1000"

 

The first asks me for my time. The second implies I provide a social service and a sexual service, with two different rates. The first I don't care what happens in the time. The second, I know I am having my face stuffed in both hours, just in different ways.

[unsub2O17]

BP, in the second situation you both would lose. If your point is that there are bad ways to ask and there are good ways to ask, I grant that. But my point was the way a blanket price makes me feel. It seems to be that that's just the way it is, and I can take it or leave it, but not question it.

[BostonPhil]

BP, in the second situation you both would lose. If your point is that there are bad ways to ask and there are good ways to ask, I grant that. But my point was the way a blanket price makes me feel. It seems to be that that's just the way it is, and I can take it or leave it, but not question it.

 

In the second situation, if you're in law enforcement, I get picked up for prostitution.

[jjkrkwood]

BP, in the second situation you both would lose. If your point is that there are bad ways to ask and there are good ways to ask, I grant that. But my point was the way a blanket price makes me feel. It seems to be that that's just the way it is, and I can take it or leave it, but not question it.

 

unsub, you can ALWAYS do what YOU want to do, but you must also realize it may not get you the result you want. I am getting a vibe from you posts that you feel as if you would be doing the escort a favor by allowing him time with YOU, and in some way you might be. BUT he doesnt know YOU and doesnt know that, and perhaps it will take baby steps to get to that point, and perhaps you NEVER will get there. STOP thinking and just DO !. Ask the questions, extend the invites, and let the chips fall where they may. Just keep your wallet handy, just in case .....

[down_to_business]

If you need to hire someone to be your friend or companion then try either this http://rentafriend.com/ or something similar. This person will charge you under $20 an hour and you can agree upon any activity from taking a day trip, going to a concert, meeting for lunch, or even him being your wingman. Hire your escorts for sex, so instead of $800 for a dinner and a movie its $200 for an hour of fun and $ 50 for dinner and a movie = $250 for a great evening and nobody has to feel awkward or uncomfortable or pressured. No need to blur any lines or strike any bargains at all.

[BostonPhil]

If you need to hire someone to be your friend or companion then try either this http://rentafriend.com/ or something similar. This person will charge you under $20 an hour and you can agree upon any activity from taking a day trip, going to a concert, meeting for lunch, or even him being your wingman. Hire your escorts for sex, so instead of $800 for a dinner and a movie its $200 for an hour of fun and $ 50 for dinner and a movie = $250 for a great evening and nobody has to feel awkward or uncomfortable or pressured. No need to blur any lines or strike any bargains at all.

 

So I go to rentafriend and instantly recognize one of the people there....

[jjkrkwood]

Somehow the name RentaFriend is ridiculous to me. Friendship by its nature takes time to nuture and grow, and to imply that you can rent THAT for $20 hr minimiizes its meaning... These people wont be your FRIEND, they are strangers spending PAID time with you..sorta like babysitting. So perhaps RentaCompanion is a more suitable name ???

[BostonPhil]

Somehow the name RentaFriend is ridiculous to me. Friendship by its nature takes time to nuture and grow, and to imply that you can rent THAT for $20 hr minimiizes its meaning... These people wont be your FRIEND, they are strangers spending PAID time with you..sorta like babysitting. So perhaps RentaCompanion is a more suitable name ???

 

I am totally registering rentacquaintance.com right now

[jjkrkwood]

I am totally registering rentacquaintance.com right now

 

There ya go. You are so entrepreneurial. :o

[BostonPhil]

There ya go. You are so entrepreneurial. :o

 

$20 walk in the park, $50 dinner fucking an escort, PRICELESS

[maxwellissmart]

I am totally registering rentacquaintance.com right now

 

I have it already, as well as RentMyCockBitch.com

[BostonPhil]

I have it already, as well as RentMyCockBitch.com

 

I could have sworn I saw you on rentacenter.com

[Lookin]

Now, there's gray for you.

 

http://www.maleescortreview.com/forum/public/style_emoticons/default/thumbsup.png And here's some gray for you! Looks hungry too. http://www.maleescortreview.com/forum/public/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif

 

 

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[Epigonos]

Unsub I have been considering how to respond to your comment that by refusing to pay $750 to an escort for lunch/dinner and a couple of hour of play time I might have “missed out on a potentially wonderful afternoon/evening”. Over the years I have concluded that i have a very underdeveloped group of physical senses.

 

I have a nephew who considers himself a wine connoisseur. He nearly goes into cardiac arrest when I tell him I can’t tell the difference between, for example, a very expensive highly rated, bottle of Shariz and Trader Joe’s two buck Chuck. He opens an expensive bottle and asks if I can’t taste the wines bigness, with polished black currant, blackberry, licorice, and coffee flavors. Huh, I don’t have a clue what he’s talking about let alone taste what he is talking about.

 

Last week I went out with a group of friends to a very highly rated, very expensive local steakhouse. The restaurant serves only dry aged beef, individual steaks cost from $50 up. My friends wax eloquent about the wonderful flavor of the meat. I don’t get it. Sure the steak was good but was it really that good? For my money it wasn’t that much better than the steaks served at the Outback Restaurant.

 

The above two examples speak somewhat to my attitude regarding escorts. Some of the most sought after, well reviewed, expensive escorts I have hired for lunch/dinner and two hour have been no more outstanding than some of the least expensive ones. Obviously I have underdeveloped taste buds.

[unsub2O17]

Unsub I have been considering how to respond to your comment that by refusing to pay $750 to an escort for lunch/dinner and a couple of hour of play time I might have “missed out on a potentially wonderful afternoon/evening”. Over the years I have concluded that i have a very underdeveloped group of physical senses.

 

I have a nephew who considers himself a wine connoisseur. He nearly goes into cardiac arrest when I tell him I can’t tell the difference between, for example, a very expensive highly rated, bottle of Shariz and Trader Joe’s two buck Chuck. He opens an expensive bottle and asks if I can’t taste the wines bigness, with polished black currant, blackberry, licorice, and coffee flavors. Huh, I don’t have a clue what he’s talking about let alone taste what he is talking about.

 

Last week I went out with a group of friends to a very highly rated, very expensive local steakhouse. The restaurant serves only dry aged beef, individual steaks cost from $50 up. My friends wax eloquent about the wonderful flavor of the meat. I don’t get it. Sure the steak was good but was it really that good? For my money it wasn’t that much better than the steaks served at the Outback Restaurant.

 

The above two examples speak somewhat to my attitude regarding escorts. Some of the most sought after, well reviewed, expensive escorts I have hired for lunch/dinner and two hour have been no more outstanding than some of the least expensive ones. Obviously I have underdeveloped taste buds.

 

I love your answer. I don't even drink wine, let alone taste any differences. And I can tell a good steak, but all that means to me is that it has more fat or was cooked in a lot of butter. But I want to be clear, I was saying that you were right to pass him up because of his insistence on charging for his meal time. However, DTB's idea is quite good. It's not that I desire anyone's companionship. It's that I think I'd enjoy this particular escort's companionship in a non-sexual setting, but that because the "balance" between us has changed, so should the fees charged. DTB seems to think (as do most of the posters here) that I should just forget this, that it's not really possible, practical, or realistic. That may, indeed, be so, and I'll just do something by myself (whose company I find immensely entertaining) or with "someone else". As JJ keeps saying, it's time I stop thinking and do!

[down_to_business]

I love your answer. I don't even drink wine, let alone taste any differences. And I can tell a good steak, but all that means to me is that it has more fat or was cooked in a lot of butter. But I want to be clear, I was saying that you were right to pass him up because of his insistence on charging for his meal time. However, DTB's idea is quite good. It's not that I desire anyone's companionship. It's that I think I'd enjoy this particular escort's companionship in a non-sexual setting, but that because the "balance" between us has changed, so should the fees charged. DTB seems to think (as do most of the posters here) that I should just forget this, that it's not really possible, practical, or realistic. That may, indeed, be so, and I'll just do something by myself (whose company I find immensely entertaining) or with "someone else". As JJ keeps saying, it's time I stop thinking and do!

 

I actually think the best choice for you is to have an honest and upfront conversation with your escort about it. I have found over the years that every single escort thinks and feels differently about things despite what some of the more vocal escorts and individual posters on this site vocalize. I have had escorts (rightfully) ask me why I do, act or think some way and when I mention this board, they have a differing view or opinion. If you are able to converse with your escort open and honestly about any topic you will get the very best answers to your questions. My alternate method was only a suggestion if honest and open 2 way communication is not an option.

[Decatur Guy]

I can't imagine hiring for dinner unless I were to do an overnight or weekend thing, and we've got to rest and eat anyway. But if you're hired for three hours, we're playing for two and a half of those.

 

I am thinking of hiring a guy for like a five-hour night out thing ... but it would most likely involve drinks, not dinner.

[orbital sander]

Somehow the name RentaFriend is ridiculous to me. Friendship by its nature takes time to nuture and grow, and to imply that you can rent THAT for $20 hr minimiizes its meaning

 

It sounds better than some therapists at $320.00 (or more) per hour...

[jjkrkwood]

Unsub I have been considering how to respond to your comment that by refusing to pay $750 to an escort for lunch/dinner and a couple of hour of play time I might have “missed out on a potentially wonderful afternoon/evening”. Over the years I have concluded that i have a very underdeveloped group of physical senses.

 

I have a nephew who considers himself a wine connoisseur. He nearly goes into cardiac arrest when I tell him I can’t tell the difference between, for example, a very expensive highly rated, bottle of Shariz and Trader Joe’s two buck Chuck. He opens an expensive bottle and asks if I can’t taste the wines bigness, with polished black currant, blackberry, licorice, and coffee flavors. Huh, I don’t have a clue what he’s talking about let alone taste what he is talking about.

 

Last week I went out with a group of friends to a very highly rated, very expensive local steakhouse. The restaurant serves only dry aged beef, individual steaks cost from $50 up. My friends wax eloquent about the wonderful flavor of the meat. I don’t get it. Sure the steak was good but was it really that good? For my money it wasn’t that much better than the steaks served at the Outback Restaurant.

 

The above two examples speak somewhat to my attitude regarding escorts. Some of the most sought after, well reviewed, expensive escorts I have hired for lunch/dinner and two hour have been no more outstanding than some of the least expensive ones. Obviously I have underdeveloped taste buds.

 

Epig, I am in total agreement of your assesment on What makes for Quality.... I too am baffled when dining at expensive restaurants (that I am invited to) where the diners will ooh and ahh over the minimal bits of cuisine on the plate and revel at the presentation and such, which I sit there and think how much more enjoyable my dinner at Red Lobster was for a fraction of the cost. I think people convince "themselves" that if they pay more, its Better, and THEY have class. I have also read many reviews on Daddys and have noticed lower end "newbies" getting raves, while the high end superstars disappointed.... But THIS thread is actually about the escorts time, whether high end or lower end, and whether he should support the FREE enterprise doctrine some clients might expect..... We know the answer here.

[jjkrkwood]

I love your answer. I don't even drink wine, let alone taste any differences. And I can tell a good steak, but all that means to me is that it has more fat or was cooked in a lot of butter. But I want to be clear, I was saying that you were right to pass him up because of his insistence on charging for his meal time. However, DTB's idea is quite good. It's not that I desire anyone's companionship. It's that I think I'd enjoy this particular escort's companionship in a non-sexual setting, but that because the "balance" between us has changed, so should the fees charged. DTB seems to think (as do most of the posters here) that I should just forget this, that it's not really possible, practical, or realistic. That may, indeed, be so, and I'll just do something by myself (whose company I find immensely entertaining) or with "someone else". As JJ keeps saying, it's time I stop thinking and do!

 

unsub, in fairness, nowhere in ANY of your posts on this matter have I heard the escorts take on the situation. Its all about what YOU think and how YOU feel. What if the escorts perception of the situation is NOT the same as yours, and he doesnt feel the "balance" has changed ? and I am not sure that can be determined unless you have seen the escort several times. The way you describe it is akin to "Love at first site"..... and I am not totally convinced you are interested in a "non-sexual" encounter... Unless the escort has turned into your lover after your first encounter, he should by all means be charging YOU for every second of his time. Always remember when interactting with another person that its "not just about YOU".... Therefore, as has been repeated Ad Nauseum here, talk to your target escort, let him know how you feel, and get his feelings on the matter. Thats why they say "It takes 2 to Tango".....

[good ol boy]

I have come to this overtime. I will not pay 100.00 to 200.00 for an extra hour to have dinner with someone. If you wanna grab something to eat with me before or after we have sex, I will gladly treat you to dinner. I think the traveling escort may enjoy my company for a drink or dinner when visiting my city. I am engaging. Also, they may not want to eat alone. And again, they can decline the offer. I understand that legally the disclaimer is money spend is for time only. But we know this is bull. C'mon. I also find it interesting when the first hour is 250.00 and the second hour is $200.00. I do not really find this to be a discount. But that could be another thread. Esp. when we are talking about dinner. I do not make the same offer to a visiting masseur.

[maxwellissmart]

Unsub I have been considering how to respond to your comment that by refusing to pay $750 to an escort for lunch/dinner and a couple of hour of play time I might have “missed out on a potentially wonderful afternoon/evening”. Over the years I have concluded that i have a very underdeveloped group of physical senses.

 

I have a nephew who considers himself a wine connoisseur. He nearly goes into cardiac arrest when I tell him I can’t tell the difference between, for example, a very expensive highly rated, bottle of Shariz and Trader Joe’s two buck Chuck. He opens an expensive bottle and asks if I can’t taste the wines bigness, with polished black currant, blackberry, licorice, and coffee flavors. Huh, I don’t have a clue what he’s talking about let alone taste what he is talking about.

 

Last week I went out with a group of friends to a very highly rated, very expensive local steakhouse. The restaurant serves only dry aged beef, individual steaks cost from $50 up. My friends wax eloquent about the wonderful flavor of the meat. I don’t get it. Sure the steak was good but was it really that good? For my money it wasn’t that much better than the steaks served at the Outback Restaurant.

 

The above two examples speak somewhat to my attitude regarding escorts. Some of the most sought after, well reviewed, expensive escorts I have hired for lunch/dinner and two hour have been no more outstanding than some of the least expensive ones. Obviously I have underdeveloped taste buds.

 

The best way to cure that is to take advantage of tasting parties, where you can directly compare one flavor to another. Obviously quality is a subjective experience, and price doesn't always reflect superiority. Wine tastings and cooking classes are a great way to broaden your horizons when it comes to enjoying food. Having worked in a pretty varied spectrum of restaurants, I can honestly say that many people cheat themselves when it comes to food—they go for the same ol', same ol' everytime and don't ever try anything new. You can always send it back, you know.

[tyro]

Now, if only we could arrange some sort of escort buffet............