Sean Caden

[citylaw1]

OK, ill give in to agreeing you should share your experience with the board, however I take issue with you implying that his behavior is "off" or "flakey" simply because he may have had a change of heart and turned down your advances. You are doing the boy a disservice in your implications and followup comments about his demeanor and attitude. You may have just simply related your experience factually, and then let the others members decide for themselves whether he is "Hire-worthy"... All the embroidery only served to skew the opinion in YOUR direction. If you cant see that the "boyfriend" line was merely him pulling an excuse out of a hat, I'd love to sell you some swamp land in Bayonne.

 

My "advances?" Really? "What is your rate" is an advance?

[seeker630]

This is exactly why I posted this. Now each potential client has a larger picture of the mentioned escort and can make his own decision based on more facts. He may be hot, but he might be engaged when you arrive in San Diego.

 

People should read the actual text exchange you posted and draw their own conclusions - those are the only 'facts', as opposed to your extrapolations and speculations.

[maxwellissmart]

As an escort, do you feel like this was handled strangely? I have hired countless guys, maintained a 6 year relationship with a former Campus Escort (over for 3 years,) and a 10 year friendship with a guy from the same agency. I posted a "heads up thread" for the first time ever. I thought that it would be helpful for fellow forum members here.

 

No, not at all, and I can actually see why you'd be upset. I get exactly the same reaction when clients (let's use yesterday's as an example) text me and then say how they don't like texting and want me to call, and I text back and say: "I'm driving in a car full of people right now, can I get back to you shortly?" and instead they keep pestering me for information right then. So I pull off to get gas so I can send a message, which they then ignore and don't bother answering until I send another text saying: "were you able to get my email?" And their response is: "yeah, I looked at it." No follow-up. No yes, no, you're too expensive, fuck you, whatever.

 

But, that's the nature of the business—and business in general. You know how abrasive and unfriendly people can be—you're in a business notorious for it. What I would do is hire someone else and let them enjoy the benefits of being with you, and fuck Sean. He'll do far worse damage to his own business than your posts ever could.

[JT Brooklyn]

I'm thinking this "chit chat" now definitely will be more appreciated in the "Ask An Escort" Forum Now that it is no longer about Working Guys in General...

[tsgarp]

Maybe it's time to close this thread? Please?

[jjkrkwood]

Maybe it's time to close this thread? Please?

 

this thread is pretty much a one-way street. Its about an obsessed client with self proclaimed "wealth" that is used to getting anything he wants, and was rejected by a young kid who didnt WANT his business. Its not about professionalism, as is trying to be forced down our throats by the OP to mask what its really about.... Its also about people having a different opinion on what happened and why, which the OP refuses to entertain. And in fact, because the OP wasnt getting the support he expected here, took a trip over to Hooville and posted the sAME thread there.... If thats not an indication of obsessive behavior, I dont know what is ? Whats next, a post on Page Six or Perez Hilton ????

[hornytwells]

I never understand why anyone asks for a thread to be closed? If you don't want to read it just ignore it, what difference does it make if it is closed or not? If a thread is annoying or tiresome to me I just skip over it. I assume it is of interest to other people, otherwise it will die a natural death, no?

[+ Travis69]

Let's keep it going. Maybe we can be entered in the Guiness Book of World Records with the longest thread.

[Jaker27]

this thread is pretty much a one-way street. Its about an obsessed client with self proclaimed "wealth" that is used to getting anything he wants, and was rejected by a young kid who didnt WANT his business. Its not about professionalism, as is trying to be forced down our throats by the OP to mask what its really about.... Its also about people having a different opinion on what happened and why, which the OP refuses to entertain. And in fact, because the OP wasnt getting the support he expected here, took a trip over to Hooville and posted the sAME thread there.... If thats not an indication of obsessive behavior, I dont know what is ? Whats next, a post on Page Six or Perez Hilton ????

I didn't want to say it but you sure hit the nail on the head. This guy just came unglued because this kid rejected him. It's all about ego and obsession.

[GoodFella69]

I'm left scratching my head after just now reading this thread. I've had two enjoyable appointments with Sean--once last December and again just this past March. On both occasions, Sean arrived at my hotel on-time, well-groomed, sexy and ready to get down-to-business in the sack. He's a very cute, fun bottom! I never detected any negative behavior or flakiness from Sean. He seemed like a well-rounded, good guy and I wouldn't have called him a second time if he had come across the least bit unprofessional. I'm sorry "Citylaw" had a different experience when communicating with Sean than I have had with him in-person.

 

Goodfella

[rguer]

Let's keep it going. Maybe we can be entered in the Guiness Book of World Records with the longest thread.

 

I don't think we're anywhere near that yet. But records are made to be broken.

[josephga]

I had a guy text me like 5 times today I ended up telling him I booked the last appointment while he was busy texting lol

[instudiocity]

Me-OW.

 

Okay, so I'm totally going to start responding to all of Citylaw's posts with either "How much $?" or "Never mind, not really interested." For some reason that has just totally jerked off my tickle-bone.

Man-Pussy? I like me some MAN-PUSSY, especially if you yell Me-OW instead of Oh, wait, let me get used to it!

But you've got a great point - now if I could just FIND YOUR AD!

He told me he found a bug up my ass, I just knocked off $50. Now I'm starting to think it was all a ploy.....

I'd be finding a whole colony of bugs and wanting a COUPON for use later, seconds are best....

What an extraordinary, amazing thread. All this because an escort turned down a client?

Pretty much, and undiplomatically as well.

Some people don't like rejection.

 

Some people deal with it better than others...

And there in lieth the crux of the matter...

 

My "feelings" are not hurt, and I hardly "lusted." Four texts nearly a year after Sean was brought up here, qualifies as me lusting? I don't lust JJ, I hire guys that I want. This certainly wasn't the first time an appointment or travel idea failed in advance. This is the first time a positively reviewed escort here reacted in this unprofessional way to me. I have a lot of experience in this area, and I'm sharing ONE negative experience in 6 plus years here. If I was prone to emotion you would be able to find a thread (as there are so many on here) lamenting my self worth after a hire, threatening to "retire from this hobby," crying over boys that didn't act interested in my company, etc. You are wrong in your interpretation.

Hmmm, LUST NOT WANT NOT! I think maybe you wanted the nuance and relationship establishment to be eased somewhat - why else refer to someone else who has poked the boy in your text and not consider the circumstances of your proposal for hiring?

 

I'm left scratching my head after just now reading this thread. I've had two enjoyable appointments with Sean--once last December and again just this past March. On both occasions, Sean arrived at my hotel on-time, well-groomed, sexy and ready to get down-to-business in the sack. He's a very cute, fun bottom! I never detected any negative behavior or flakiness from Sean. He seemed like a well-rounded, good guy and I wouldn't have called him a second time if he had come across the least bit unprofessional. I'm sorry "Citylaw" had a different experience when communicating with Sean than I have had with him in-person.

 

Goodfella

Just be thankful it's your HEAD you're scratching - Apparently Sean has taken care of all those other itches, very well, too!

 

Seriously, Guys, get the picture! Citylaw1 is in Naples FLORIDA. Sean Caden is in San Diego CALIFORNIA. First, you can't get there from here very easily. So number 1, a Southwest Florida hire from San Diego requires an AM departure with a PM Arrival - it's like 7-10 hours of travel time, and Pacific time to Eastern time change - so we're talking about arriving at 7 PM and having already worked a day. Then two nights/one weekend hire? Then you get back on the plane and spend 8-11 hours traveling back to California, and when you land back in the Land of Fruits and Nuts, all you want to do is sleep off the jet lag.

 

Now it's a 4 day commitment for a two day hire. Plus we have to deal with Citylaw1's judgmental attitude (via text message - the worst form of communication) because Sean hasn't responded in 26 hours (plus the time zone difference). Hell, I'd have blown you off instead of blowing you, too!

 

Since when did client/escort relationships devolve to just fucking and sucking and no romancing? City, you should have spent more time making the sale. You tried with your 'a friend' comment, but you didn't sell him on leaving his world for 4 days just so he could get fucked by a 42 year old lawyer in Naples Florida for 2 days. Someone he doesn't know past a text message, at that!

 

You could have started your text with, "I've heard a lot about you. We have mutual friends who just gush over you. I'd be interested in discussing a trip to Naples Florida with you if you can arrange the time away. Let's email or talk on the phone. I realize you'll spend a whole day on the plane coming and going. I'm thinking a four day hire to include your travel time leaving 2 days with me for our leacherous debauchery. Can we either email or have a phone chat to discuss all the possibilities?"

 

Even if he's a fuckee and you're a sugar daddy fucker, you need a little romance but more importantly some consideration of the situation you're putting the fuckee in... and not just on his back with his ass in the air.

[oz_carter]

Mr jj, I LOVE your answer below.

 

 

this thread is pretty much a one-way street. Its about an obsessed client with self proclaimed "wealth" that is used to getting anything he wants, and was rejected by a young kid who didnt WANT his business. Its not about professionalism, as is trying to be forced down our throats by the OP to mask what its really about.... Its also about people having a different opinion on what happened and why, which the OP refuses to entertain. And in fact, because the OP wasnt getting the support he expected here, took a trip over to Hooville and posted the sAME thread there.... If thats not an indication of obsessive behavior, I dont know what is ? Whats next, a post on Page Six or Perez Hilton ????

[citylaw1]

I never understand why anyone asks for a thread to be closed? If you don't want to read it just ignore it, what difference does it make if it is closed or not? If a thread is annoying or tiresome to me I just skip over it. I assume it is of interest to other people, otherwise it will die a natural death, no?

 

My thoughts exactly. There are quite a few on here that like and need to be controlled.

[citylaw1]

this thread is pretty much a one-way street. Its about an obsessed client with self proclaimed "wealth" that is used to getting anything he wants, and was rejected by a young kid who didnt WANT his business. Its not about professionalism, as is trying to be forced down our throats by the OP to mask what its really about.... Its also about people having a different opinion on what happened and why, which the OP refuses to entertain. And in fact, because the OP wasnt getting the support he expected here, took a trip over to Hooville and posted the sAME thread there.... If thats not an indication of obsessive behavior, I dont know what is ? Whats next, a post on Page Six or Perez Hilton ????

 

I am NOT used to getting whatever I want. Opinion of what happened? It was 5 texts JJ. If you think rejection is an issue you are incorrect as usual.

[citylaw1]

Man-Pussy? I like me some MAN-PUSSY, especially if you yell Me-OW instead of Oh, wait, let me get used to it!

But you've got a great point - now if I could just FIND YOUR AD!

I'd be finding a whole colony of bugs and wanting a COUPON for use later, seconds are best....

Pretty much, and undiplomatically as well.

And there in lieth the crux of the matter...

 

Hmmm, LUST NOT WANT NOT! I think maybe you wanted the nuance and relationship establishment to be eased somewhat - why else refer to someone else who has poked the boy in your text and not consider the circumstances of your proposal for hiring?

 

Just be thankful it's your HEAD you're scratching - Apparently Sean has taken care of all those other itches, very well, too!

 

Seriously, Guys, get the picture! Citylaw1 is in Naples FLORIDA. Sean Caden is in San Diego CALIFORNIA. First, you can't get there from here very easily. So number 1, a Southwest Florida hire from San Diego requires an AM departure with a PM Arrival - it's like 7-10 hours of travel time, and Pacific time to Eastern time change - so we're talking about arriving at 7 PM and having already worked a day. Then two nights/one weekend hire? Then you get back on the plane and spend 8-11 hours traveling back to California, and when you land back in the Land of Fruits and Nuts, all you want to do is sleep off the jet lag.

 

Now it's a 4 day commitment for a two day hire. Plus we have to deal with Citylaw1's judgmental attitude (via text message - the worst form of communication) because Sean hasn't responded in 26 hours (plus the time zone difference). Hell, I'd have blown you off instead of blowing you, too!

 

Since when did client/escort relationships devolve to just fucking and sucking and no romancing? City, you should have spent more time making the sale. You tried with your 'a friend' comment, but you didn't sell him on leaving his world for 4 days just so he could get fucked by a 42 year old lawyer in Naples Florida for 2 days. Someone he doesn't know past a text message, at that!

 

You could have started your text with, "I've heard a lot about you. We have mutual friends who just gush over you. I'd be interested in discussing a trip to Naples Florida with you if you can arrange the time away. Let's email or talk on the phone. I realize you'll spend a whole day on the plane coming and going. I'm thinking a four day hire to include your travel time leaving 2 days with me for our leacherous debauchery. Can we either email or have a phone chat to discuss all the possibilities?"

 

Even if he's a fuckee and you're a sugar daddy fucker, you need a little romance but more importantly some consideration of the situation you're putting the fuckee in... and not just on his back with his ass in the air.

 

1. I can completely understand Sean's unwillingness to travel that distance for an appointment.

 

2. I mentioned an "acquaintance" to open up a door of trust to some extent.

 

3. Judgmental attitude? I think waiting 26 hours is worth a "poke" no?

 

4. He asked for text communication. And if you're one to text romance a guy you're gonna pay to fuck, then that's all you. That layout of romance made me nauseous.

[citylaw1]

I'm left scratching my head after just now reading this thread. I've had two enjoyable appointments with Sean--once last December and again just this past March. On both occasions, Sean arrived at my hotel on-time, well-groomed, sexy and ready to get down-to-business in the sack. He's a very cute, fun bottom! I never detected any negative behavior or flakiness from Sean. He seemed like a well-rounded, good guy and I wouldn't have called him a second time if he had come across the least bit unprofessional. I'm sorry "Citylaw" had a different experience when communicating with Sean than I have had with him in-person.

 

Goodfella

 

I have no problem believing this.

[citylaw1]

I didn't want to say it but you sure hit the nail on the head. This guy just came unglued because this kid rejected him. It's all about ego and obsession.

 

We've gone from "unrequented lust (sic)" to "obsession?" At least you spelled the latter correctly.

[citylaw1]

And in fact, because the OP wasnt getting the support he expected here, took a trip over to Hooville and posted the sAME thread there.... If thats not an indication of obsessive behavior

 

I actually receive more helpful advice and responses over there. When I ask about an escort, I often receive a response, whereas here I frequently don't. Notice the responses to my thread there? The traffic in the forum is heavier here, however, I believe that the income, escort experience and education levels are higher over there, and offer a broader perspective. I have been out there in the hiring world for awhile JJ. I can assure you that obsession is not involved here, and, I suspect, that if you read at a higher level, you would be able to understand what's at play here.

[jjkrkwood]

I actually receive more helpful advice and responses over there. When I ask about an escort, I often receive a response, whereas here I frequently don't. Notice the responses to my thread there? The traffic in the forum is heavier here, however, I believe that the income, escort experience and education levels are higher over there, and offer a broader perspective. I have been out there in the hiring world for awhile JJ. I can assure you that obsession is not involved here, and, I suspect, that if you read at a higher level, you would be able to understand what's at play here.

 

Oh Sweetie, I knew what was going on here with your opening post. You got DUMPED, Get over it already....

[citylaw1]

Oh Sweetie, I knew what was going on here with your opening post. You got DUMPED, Get over it already....

 

I got "dumped?" Wow. http://www.readingrockets.org/teaching/?gclid=CNDl6-GMnrACFQS0nQodWWArVw . Perhaps your nurse could sign up for it?

[rvwnsd]

I actually receive more helpful advice and responses over there. When I ask about an escort, I often receive a response, whereas here I frequently don't. Notice the responses to my thread there? The traffic in the forum is heavier here, however, I believe that the income, escort experience and education levels are higher over there, and offer a broader perspective. I have been out there in the hiring world for awhile JJ. I can assure you that obsession is not involved here, and, I suspect, that if you read at a higher level, you would be able to understand what's at play here.

 

What's at play here is that you overreacted to an escort's response to your terse texts, became pissed when he wanted to know how much he would earn from this cross-country jaunt, and are disappointed that you did not receive the empathy you expected from the members of this board. Before you tell me that texts, by nature, are terse, let me tell you that I text in complete thoughts and sentences. Several of my friends also text in complete sentences, including a few who are not college graduates. Communication skills, which are the heart of this matter, are not necessarily a function of education level, income, or breadth of experience. As instudiocity pointed out, you wold have been better served had you texted a complete thought. Even a text that read "Hi, I am interested in hiring you for a long weekend that would require cross-country travel. May. I call or e-mail you with details" would have been an improvement over what you wrote. You have received some helpful suggestions here. Instead of denigrating the members' suggestions by stating you find the members to be less educated, wealthy, and experienced than those of the other board, take them to heart and use them to improve your engagement skills.

[instudiocity]

1. I can completely understand Sean's unwillingness to travel that distance for an appointment.

So you write a negative review that can't even be posted based on Daddy's Reviews Terms of Service, and bitch about Sean on two message boards. You're the mature one, right?

 

2. I mentioned an "acquaintance" to open up a door of trust to some extent.

So you felt the need to share common ground, but that common ground was a third party. You offered none of yourself nor requested anything from Sean in the way of establishing common ground.

 

3. Judgmental attitude? I think waiting 26 hours is worth a "poke" no?

Speaking of Door Of Trust, did you see what your 26th hour poke said? Me: So I assume that you're not interested? If I'd gotten that text the next day, my response would have been, "Who the FUCK ARE YOU?"

 

Seriously, you need someone to say, you should have written? "Hey Sean, City again from yesterday. Are you interested in planning a trip to see me in Florida? I'd love to have you come visit." And in your response to his "How Much $" could have been, "I see an overnight rate on your ad, but I'm thinking you'll be away from San Diego for the better part of 3-4 days with travel time and your visit with me. Can we set a flat rate for your time - of course, I'll pay all your expenses."

 

4. He asked for text communication. And if you're one to text romance a guy you're gonna pay to fuck, then that's all you. That layout of romance made me nauseous.

Well, you've made the point that all you're looking for is to penetrate a rectum. I tend to pay escorts for their time, their presence in the appointment, and for their preparation. I don't assume I'm going to poke them, until they actually say, "Fuck ME!" in the appointment. Everyone I hire has the option to stop the encounter at any point during the encounter - I'm all about safety, comfort and willingness. I do let them know what I want to do during the appointment, but I would never do anything without their consent in the moment. Maybe that's why I have the opportunity to have repeat appointments with my guys. Maybe that's why they like to travel and dine with me off the clock. Just saying, people mirror the treatment they are receiving.

 

I actually receive more helpful advice and responses over there. When I ask about an escort, I often receive a response, whereas here I frequently don't. Notice the responses to my thread there? The traffic in the forum is heavier here, however, I believe that the income, escort experience and education levels are higher over there, and offer a broader perspective. I have been out there in the hiring world for awhile JJ. I can assure you that obsession is not involved here, and, I suspect, that if you read at a higher level, you would be able to understand what's at play here.

Heavy traffic = poor, inexperience and dumb. Wow, that you could actually write that drivel is unbelievable.

 

I hope to one day have the opportunity to share a drink with you. I really want to see how you get the drink to your lips with your head so far up your own ass. (SARCASM!)

[jjkrkwood]

Instudio, I agree with everything you have said, but you, I and anyone else who has voiced an opinion contrary to the OP will only continue to be rebuffed by the OP, because he JUST CANT SEE the error of his ways. Who else would turn a simple "turning down of an offer" into a mini-series other than a person

hurt and deflated. A wise, savvy and educated person wouldnt have given this a second thought, and would have spent his time searching for someone else to meet his requirements. And if we truly FEEL we have done nothing wrong, why do we so vigorously search for others approval of our actions? Turning a "not interested" into a crusade against a boy who "just wasnt into you" seems a bit over the top... And really, how does a self-professed Busy attorney earning $11,000 PER WEEK have time for this anyway ? . Is court in recess ?????