Sean Caden

[citylaw1]

For me, the above highligthed line speaks volumes. It clearly shows your frame of mind, and that you dont take rejection well. Most of us dont.. but many of us will just move on to another boy. Me thinks there is something about this boy that has you smitten ? For the umpteenth time, I doubt this boy was in any sort of relationship. He was blowing you off "tactfully"... I mean really, what can you say to a guy in a relationship ?

 

Rejection? You aren't very bright are you? I don't feel rejected. I feel like I encountered an unprofessional escort and related my experience. Do you ever read poster's responses and then formulate a response?

[bostonman]

I have laid out all of the facts. There was no need to "pull an excuse out of his hat." A simple no would suffice. His professionalism is reflected in his actions, and actions are important and telling.

 

For me, that's the crux of the issue (and I'm just commenting as an impartial observer, lol). A more professional way of turning down the offer would have been better. The attitude and excuses only make him look bad. If people don't necessarily want to see it that way, fine for them. Had I been the potential client, it would just affirm for me that I never would have really wanted to spend time with Caden in the first place.

[jjkrkwood]

Final Thoughts:

 

In Life, people dont/wont always act in ways we expect or approve of. The choice then becomes to either deal with their behavior, or NOT... It takes alot less effort to simply move on from any confrontation, conflict or ill will, but certainly this wont be the course for some. Others take joy, or solace in the battle, hoping the outcome will be in their favor. Perhaps it will, who knows. How you live your life and how you make your choices and decisions involves soul-searching, logic and restraint. And even the best laid plans sometimes even go askew. But before we crucify people for doing the WRONG thing as we see it, we should ask ourselves "What would Oprah do" ???

[citylaw1]

Final Thoughts:

 

In Life, people dont/wont always act in ways we expect or approve of. The choice then becomes to either deal with their behavior, or NOT... It takes alot less effort to simply move on from any confrontation, conflict or ill will, but certainly this wont be the course for some. Others take joy, or solace in the battle, hoping the outcome will be in their favor. Perhaps it will, who knows. How you live your life and how you make your choices and decisions involves soul-searching, logic and restraint. And even the best laid plans sometimes even go askew. But before we crucify people for doing the WRONG thing as we see it, we should ask ourselves "What would Oprah do" ???

 

On an escort review site I post reviews. There is no confrontation whatsoever.

[citylaw1]

For me, that's the crux of the issue (and I'm just commenting as an impartial observer, lol). A more professional way of turning down the offer would have been better. The attitude and excuses only make him look bad. If people don't necessarily want to see it that way, fine for them. Had I been the potential client, it would just affirm for me that I never would have really wanted to spend time with Caden in the first place.

 

Pretty much why I submitted a review and started this thread. I believe that by sharing, I help somebody out. I routinely depend on reviews here and believe that I should contribute as well as benefit.

[+ Travis69]

Did the acquaintance who recommended him have any problems setting up his appointment? Did he note any areas of concern in any aspect of his encounter?

[citylaw1]

Did the acquaintance who recommended him have any problems setting up his appointment? Did he note any areas of concern in any aspect of his encounter?

 

He did not. It was awhile ago.

[unsub2O17]

Exactly. The point here is that many might be disappointed in their decision to hire this young gentleman. Clearly there is a chance of the appointment never happening, as well as a potential loss of money when a client spends money to travel to Sean.

 

Which is a great reason to always have a second objective (something else to do) when traveling.

[TopAz]

It should be noted that I have never published a negative review here...

 

In the interest of fairness, it should also be noted that Sean Caden has received three glowingly favorable reviews from clients who report actually meeting him and had positive experience with this young man. I wrote one of those reviews following my very pleasurable session with Sean several months ago. Citylaw, it's too bad that you had a less-than-positive outcome when text-messaging with Sean. I understand and appreciate your frustration. However, to label this young man as "bi-polar" and "a flake" and "unprofessional" based on these few text responses seems extreme and unprofessional to me.

[maxwellissmart]

"I'm seeing someone" is of course one of the classic fake excuses, but guys use it all the time anyway. Amazing. Especially in the case of an escort, who you would think would want to find a way to sound more professional. Ah, well...

 

Nope, never thought of using that one. Anytime I cancel it's because I'm sick. Anytime I won't set something up at all, it's because I've either just seen someone and your appointment is in my recharge time, or you raised a red flag.

 

Too bad about Sean—he's actually kind of cute in a twinkesque way.

[CowboyUp]

I've never had success trying to hire a provided through text messages. Perhaps a phone conversation with Sean would have yielded a much different result. Especially considering you wanted him to travel across the country and meet for multiple days. You could certainly glean more about your chemistry with a particular provider, as well as his level of professionalism, during a phone conversation rather than texting.

[maxwellissmart]

Here is our entire text conversation. I think that you can review under these circumstances, but I might be wrong? There was no other communication between us:

 

Me: Hi Sean. An acquaintance of mine hired you in San Diego. I am in Naples, Fl.; are you interested in traveling to Florida at all?

 

Sean: Maybe, what are the details?

 

Me: I was thinking June 2nd for two nights?

 

Me: So I assume that you're not interested? (after not hearing back for 26 hours)

 

Sean: How much $?? (classy)

 

Me: What is your rate?

 

Sean: Never mind, not really interested.

 

Me: Very professional.

 

Sean: I'm sorry, I'm kind of dating someone now.

 

Me: Lol ... Kind of like placing your house on the market, and then getting pissed when somebody makes an offer. Best of luck.

 

This text exchange represents the entire communication that took place between us. I responded to an active Rentboy ad, as requested, by text. Sean is a flake at best.

 

Me-OW.

 

Okay, so I'm totally going to start responding to all of Citylaw's posts with either "How much $?" or "Never mind, not really interested." For some reason that has just totally jerked off my tickle-bone.

[maxwellissmart]

Ha - I like "unrequented" better. Let's make it an official word. ;-)

 

Last week JJ told me found a bug in his drink at the Club and got it comped because he was all unrequented and shit.

[BostonPhil]

Last week JJ told me found a bug in his drink at the Club and got it comped because he was all unrequented and shit.

 

He told me he found a bug up my ass, I just knocked off $50. Now I'm starting to think it was all a ploy.....

[jjkrkwood]

He told me he found a bug up my ass, I just knocked off $50. Now I'm starting to think it was all a ploy.....

 

Oh shit, I'm busted !

[jjkrkwood]

I actually just checked the Rentboy link to see what I have been posting about. WTF ???? I take back all my posts and wasted time. The guy wasnt worth all this fuss. YES, he is citys type,

but come on....65 posts ?

[oz_carter]

What an extraordinary, amazing thread. All this because an escort turned down a client?

[down_to_business]

What an extraordinary, amazing thread. All this because an escort turned down a client?

 

Some people don't like rejection.

 

Some people deal with it better than others.

 

And for some, the reason they hire instead of date is because they don't want to deal with rejection. When these people put themselves out there by attempting to hire someone and then that escort (for whatever reason) rejects them it kind of feels like they are saying " You are so worthless as a human being that you can't even pay for my company". Yes, there are some people that are that introverted that attempting to hire an escort is putting themselves out there. yes, the escort may have actually said " I am busy or unavailable" but yes it feels like a crushing rejection, and finally, yes- there are people out there that would like to know people's experience with attempting to hire so that they wouldn't have to go through the same kind of rejection themselves.

 

I, for one, was rejected in my attempt to hire Justin Cox. I didn't take it as personal as the OP but it didn't make me feel great either. Why someone would still advertise if they truly aren't sure that they want to escort anymore is beyond me, but I try to view it as a positive- that I have been saved a worse experience if I would have hired them.

[jjkrkwood]

What an extraordinary, amazing thread. All this because an escort turned down a client?

 

And that was my only point... I couldnt see anything else in this thread other than the OP got his feelings hurt after lusting after an escort and got turned down. It happens in Life, so it can certainly happen in Fantasy too !

[citylaw1]

I've never had success trying to hire a provided through text messages. Perhaps a phone conversation with Sean would have yielded a much different result. Especially considering you wanted him to travel across the country and meet for multiple days. You could certainly glean more about your chemistry with a particular provider, as well as his level of professionalism, during a phone conversation rather than texting.

 

I always start with a text. If the deal specifics are of interest, I follow with a "when are you available to chat" text. This has worked on countless occasions.

[citylaw1]

What an extraordinary, amazing thread. All this because an escort turned down a client?

 

This is not about "rejection" or "feelings." This is about behavior on the part of an advertising escort. I wasn't rejected or turned down on appearance, prose, likes, location or anything. Why would I have "feelings" about this? This shows maturity and reliability. Many here are in need of Reading Comprehension 101.

[citylaw1]

And that was my only point... I couldnt see anything else in this thread other than the OP got his feelings hurt after lusting after an escort and got turned down. It happens in Life, so it can certainly happen in Fantasy too !

 

My "feelings" are not hurt, and I hardly "lusted." Four texts nearly a year after Sean was brought up here, qualifies as me lusting? I don't lust JJ, I hire guys that I want. This certainly wasn't the first time an appointment or travel idea failed in advance. This is the first time a positively reviewed escort here reacted in this unprofessional way to me. I have a lot of experience in this area, and I'm sharing ONE negative experience in 6 plus years here. If I was prone to emotion you would be able to find a thread (as there are so many on here) lamenting my self worth after a hire, threatening to "retire from this hobby," crying over boys that didn't act interested in my company, etc. You are wrong in your interpretation.

[citylaw1]

Some people don't like rejection.

 

Some people deal with it better than others.

 

And for some, the reason they hire instead of date is because they don't want to deal with rejection. When these people put themselves out there by attempting to hire someone and then that escort (for whatever reason) rejects them it kind of feels like they are saying " You are so worthless as a human being that you can't even pay for my company". Yes, there are some people that are that introverted that attempting to hire an escort is putting themselves out there. yes, the escort may have actually said " I am busy or unavailable" but yes it feels like a crushing rejection, and finally, yes- there are people out there that would like to know people's experience with attempting to hire so that they wouldn't have to go through the same kind of rejection themselves.

 

I, for one, was rejected in my attempt to hire Justin Cox. I didn't take it as personal as the OP but it didn't make me feel great either. Why someone would still advertise if they truly aren't sure that they want to escort anymore is beyond me, but I try to view it as a positive- that I have been saved a worse experience if I would have hired them.

 

Actually I hire because I like to fuck guys that are 18-20 years younger than me, and have little to no sexual attraction to guys my own age. This has nothing to do with fear of rejection. It's pretty simple; I'm 42 and they're not, and when we were all 22, few of us lusted after middle aged men. Throw money into the fountain, and 42 looks a lot younger and attractive to 22 year old guys.

 

If I was rejected due to appearance, hygiene, intelligence, etc. you might have a point. NONE of this happened. How is this not obvious? There are so many threads about "I was brushing my teeth and he ran out of the room," etc. That is rejection. Asking "how much $$" followed by "I'm dating someone" hardly qualifies as rejection. This is simply immature, unprofessional behavior that does not reflect on me at all.

[citylaw1]

Me-OW.

 

Okay, so I'm totally going to start responding to all of Citylaw's posts with either "How much $?" or "Never mind, not really interested." For some reason that has just totally jerked off my tickle-bone.

 

As an escort, do you feel like this was handled strangely? I have hired countless guys, maintained a 6 year relationship with a former Campus Escort (over for 3 years,) and a 10 year friendship with a guy from the same agency. I posted a "heads up thread" for the first time ever. I thought that it would be helpful for fellow forum members here.

[citylaw1]

Oh.. that's too bad as i was hoping to connect with him next week when I'll be in SD for a conference. Hope you have better luck with other escorts there

 

This is exactly why I posted this. Now each potential client has a larger picture of the mentioned escort and can make his own decision based on more facts. He may be hot, but he might be engaged when you arrive in San Diego.