411 marc dylan

[vabballfan]

"He also charges based on what you're wanting to do."

 

I have never had an escort determine he wanted premium rates to do a "vanilla" three way with me as the client and another escort (especially when the escort was as hot and well respected as Andrew Justice). If anything I've had escorts lower their rate because they love three ways themselves.

 

Marc Dylan is widely known as a power bottom. All Andrew and I wanted him to do was to be versatile - he bills himself as a bottom so I would probably want him to bottom for both AJ and me. If he wanted to top I'm sure I wouldn't mind (not all all) and I suspect AJ would "take it like a man" from Marc.

 

So I don't know what warrants $380. And if some people want to pay him $5000 to $10,000 per night - more power to them. Doesn't mean I have to "inflated" rates compared to other top escorts that don't.

[operalover21]

"He also charges based on what you're wanting to do."

 

I have never had an escort determine he wanted premium rates to do a "vanilla" three way with me as the client and another escort (especially when the escort was as hot and well respected as Andrew Justice). If anything I've had escorts lower their rate because they love three ways themselves.

 

Marc Dylan is widely known as a power bottom. All Andrew and I wanted him to do was to be versatile - he bills himself as a bottom so I would probably want him to bottom for both AJ and me. If he wanted to top I'm sure I wouldn't mind (not all all) and I suspect AJ would "take it like a man" from Marc.

 

So I don't know what warrants $380. And if some people want to pay him $5000 to $10,000 per night - more power to them. Doesn't mean I have to "inflated" rates compared to other top escorts that don't.

 

That's absolutely true. From both sides. Perhaps he gave you that rate because, frankly, he wasn't interested in you. That's another plausible explanation.

[JamesNYC]

I have a review coming out, but I will say here that he is just on this side of being a con artist. Different rates for different things on different days. Is he gay, is he straight? For someone who constantly gets fucked in films it seems ludicrous that one day is "bottoming" rate is 350 then a week later is it up to 400. He is price gauging his fans and those who don't know better, and honestly I found him to be a very disconnected, unenthusiastic escort. And in response to the above poster regarding his millionaire client circle - all I can say is 'hell no'. He possesses neither the charm nor the sexuality to move in that area (if indeed it exists, and I do not really believe it does).

[operalover21]

I have a review coming out, but I will say here that he is just on this side of being a con artist. Different rates for different things on different days. Is he gay, is he straight? For someone who constantly gets fucked in films it seems ludicrous that one day is "bottoming" rate is 350 then a week later is it up to 400. He is price gauging his fans and those who don't know better, and honestly I found him to be a very disconnected, unenthusiastic escort. And in response to the above poster regarding his millionaire client circle - all I can say is 'hell no'. He possesses neither the charm nor the sexuality to move in that area (if indeed it exists, and I do not really believe it does).

 

The haters here are really getting ridiculous. Novice? I bet. Marc Dylan is a great guy and I've enjoyed my times with him. What's wrong with him charging different rates at different times to different people? You're free NOT to hire him. If you think that a "millionaire circuit" doesn't exist then that says all one needs to know about your credibility.

[JamesNYC]

If Marc Dylan makes $10,000 a night I will cut off my cock and have the hole made into a vagina.

[JamesNYC]

And thank you AndreG for clarifying how the "millionaire's circuit" works (even though I still don't think an actual 'circuit' exists).

[lbcc]

- He can charge whatever he wants to whomever he wants to.

- There are plenty of people who get paid well into the thousands.

- Saying all you wanted was a threesome... well thats probably why he said $380

 

 

 

When you are getting a hefty amount of money on a daily basis, why accept $250? Also $380 is a way of weeding out people and ending the ongoing conversation.

[stephen_maximum]

I wouldn't say there there is an actual group of millionaires who sit around and discuss guys they hire and who the guys go back and forth between. Over the years I've found that the small core of extremely wealthy clients we cater to are far too discrete for that. Yes they are willing to pay premium prices for guys who are not visibly on the market, but with extremely visible clientele you are also dealing with the signing of confidentiality agreements which negates literally any mention of these goings on. I don't wish to contradict the statement by Andre above, but $10,000 is outrageously high. Perhaps your friend was exagerating for effect? Maximum has been known to represent a number of actors and models, both up-and-coming and those who became well known, some of who you would be shocked to think worked for us, and in the 12 years since we started dealing with higher end guys I've seen it just about double...from $2500 in 2001 to $5000 today. Maybe it's different on the West Coast, or possibly these rumors represent one closed circuit of wealthy gay guys who don't care who knows about their personal sex lives, but in the cross section I've dealt with they remain private individuals.

[stephen_maximum]

Thanks for the compliment Andre. Obviously the bulk of our business is making guys like YOU happy, so I'm glad you had a satisfying experience!

[vabballfan]

Don't "speak" before you know the facts

 

That's absolutely true. From both sides. Perhaps he gave you that rate because, frankly, he wasn't interested in you. That's another plausible explanation.

 

I seriously doubt that. Marc has met Andrew Justice before. Andrew contacted him and told him he had a client that wanted to do a three way. Marc quoted Andrew the $380 rate and Andrew thought that was "asburd". Marc Dylan certainly shouldn't be concerned about keeping the fact that he fucks for money a secret - he fucks for money all the time when he does porn movies - and that ass has been worked out many, many times.

 

I don't know but I don't understand why an escort would charge varying rates in the same city for a "vanilla" experience - what's better, 3 calls at $300 per call or 0 calls (or maybe one call) at $380 - $400?

[adriano46]

A few thoughts... This may be in a way a nod to those who know of or are members of the $10,000 (or whatever figure) club of clients for escorts, and escorts who charge over the top prices.

 

Since I first became a member here (back when it was first founded by Hooboy, and I lived in Europe and mostly hired from there), there were always a few escorts out there who were -seemingly - ONLY available for very high-end clients (notably, high level politicians, known businessmen, entertainers, clergymen of a certain high rank -- pe0ple whose name and face were very known). Those men, for discretionary reasons that Stephen of Maximum states clearly, need the assurance of a Discretionary Clause Contract, and so are willing to (and must??) pay higher prices to assure their anonymity.

 

Over the last 2 decades since I began hiring I have heard and met personally escorts who are indiscreet speaking or bragging about so-and-so who they spent a night with. Some of the most infamous were members of both the political and business class of Russians who hired Bel-Ami or Czech/Hungarian porn stars for wild weekend orgies filled with booze, drugs, caviar, and some of the kinkiest sex imaginable. I was friends of a few of these escorts who told me of the fear they went through on these weekends, flown in to Moscow and taken to villas owned by some of the most powerful men of Russia (use your imagination of one who constantly has his photo taken bare-chested, and cavorting on vacations with "His Serene Highness" of Monaco!!). The escorts involved told me the money was amazing, but the risks to their well-being (forced to use drugs, the kink in the sex etc... including BB) made many RUN after the first encounter. I met 3 times one very hung, muscular young man from the Caucasas, one of the hottest guys around. I discovered later he went "missing" -- he used to show up a bit high and bragging about a high level politican or general he had sex with... I told himn a few times when we met that I thought it "unwise" to brag about these guys using their names, but he ignored my advice. Later a mutual acquaintance told me of a "tragic accident" where he was killed. This really happened.

 

We know too in North America of famous or name-rececognitional people who we "suspect" may swing both ways, but are NEVER seen with another guy. I doubt they are living a celibate life with only their left (or right) hand as a friend in need. They pay top dollar to see (discreetly and away from any paparrazzi) some of the most handsome men around, include up-and-coming actors, photo models, and some of the higher paid porn models.

 

So a guy like Marc Dylan, whose prowess as a bottom is well-noted, can (and does it seems) serve a more affluent type of client who may also restrict his being handed around (after all, who wants to pay $10,000 for std's??) These select few high-priced working guys are lucky. They find a real sugar daddy or select list of high rollers whose anonymity means they too will never really be threatened, they receive a more secure income that is off the books, and they do not have to sleep with older, out-of-shape guys unless he has a bankroll commensurate with his weight...

 

I once tried to hire Marc when he first visited NY - and suspected he would demand top dollar (and he did). I do not begrudge him this; I never will pay anyone more than $300/hr and those I do agree to pay $300 better be 100% what I desire. I have been fortunate in most cases to find guys who charge less and do more and are more sexy, more interactive, and all-in-all more memorable. Sure if Marc called me and asked if I want to hire him for an hour for $300 - I might reconsider, but I doubt he will call, and I doubt he would lower his price. He is free to market himself as he wishes; I am free to choose what working man I can afford and desire.

[buckguy]

Some years ago, I had several appointments with someone who had gotten into the middle rung of porndom. He described to me one client who sounded much like a certain wealthy, well known entertainment figure who was then closeted. He (the wealthy guy) also has been known to employ various escorts and pornguys in his businesses in low level (non-managerial) jobs. The escort's description of things was one of multi-day appointments that consisted of sex and the tycoon going off an doing business, then sex, then business, etc. Besides being at this guy's beckon call, the other thing that was notable was the recurring and pointed verbal abuse--real self-esteem killing stuff, that the escort endured. This kind of encounter paid bills (he'd been heavily in debt), but ultimately I wondered if it was what led him to leave the adult business. I knew another guy whose exposure to the rich (but not famous) was pressure to drink heavily and move outside his comfort zone--his first question to me on a weekend appointment was whether I drank.

 

So....like Adriano46's examples, being with the super rich/powerful may be lucrative, but in the long run it can be soul crushing or worse. Major pornguys often test the top of the market for regular appointments, perhaps based on a few encounters with this crowd, but few seem able to maintain super premium prices over time. Marc Dylan may be trying to generate a lot of cash over a short career (witness the enormous number of scenes he produced in a short time) or he may simply be a lousy business person.

[+ bigjoey]

I knew an escort in NYC who was flown in a private jet to LA to spend the night with David Gefen and then flown back. I did not ask him what he was paid but he was so in awe of the situation and his experience, I guess he did not charge extra. If you count he cost of travel, the overnight cost in excess of $10,000 for Mr Gefen.

 

As for being discrete, we all were recently treated to Calvin Klein throwing a 21st birthday party for his porn star boy friend Nick Gruber (they have since parted ways). Calvin Klein was very public about it. Barry Diller's all-boy boating adventures make the Internet all the time. With cellphone cameras, it is harder to be discrete ( think Prince Harry in Las Vegas).

 

There are men of great wealth and power where this kind of money means little.

[cany10011]

On a smaller scale, an escort I met from NJ (via adam) told me of an executive of a fortune 100 that threw a large scale extravaganza where he had hired a dozen "model" looking boys and the boys were paid handsomely to spend time with any one of the executive's guests.... I wish I were an attendee!!! I think he was paid 1000 to lounge around in his underwear and everytime he hooked up with someone he got paid a few hundred. So i guess it was worthwhile....He was very discreet about who organized it and who the other guys were so I'll never know. I stopped seeing this guy as he's way too bulky and muscular for my taste.

[operalover21]

If Marc Dylan makes $10,000 a night I will cut off my cock and have the hole made into a vagina.

 

I doubt the hole left from your cock would be big enough for a fruit loop.

 

You are one crazy jerk. Calling Marc Dylan a "con artist" is offensive. I'm guessing you're a fat, ugly jerk with a 1 inch penis and that's why your experience was bad. Although, frankly, I doubt you ever met Mr. Dylan.

 

Go away, you smell.

[operalover21]

I knew an escort in NYC who was flown in a private jet to LA to spend the night with David Gefen and then flown back. I did not ask him what he was paid but he was so in awe of the situation and his experience, I guess he did not charge extra. If you count he cost of travel, the overnight cost in excess of $10,000 for Mr Gefen.

 

As for being discrete, we all were recently treated to Calvin Klein throwing a 21st birthday party for his porn star boy friend Nick Gruber (they have since parted ways). Calvin Klein was very public about it. Barry Diller's all-boy boating adventures make the Internet all the time. With cellphone cameras, it is harder to be discrete ( think Prince Harry in Las Vegas).

 

There are men of great wealth and power where this kind of money means little.

 

Yep, I know that story as well.

 

People who deny the existence of this sort of thing probably also think there was a conspiracy to kill JFK and that aliens live among us.

 

They're just a bunch of poor jerks who live in trailer parks and experience life from behind a keyboard in their mommy's basement.

[JamesNYC]

I see no reason for a personal attack by you - we are discussing an escorts attributes and our impressions in an open forum. Unless you are a shill for him posting positive spin about your experience perhaps in exchange for free sessions I don't know why you're taking it personally. And there is nothing offensive about calling him a con artist if that is truly how I felt after my experience; it's a harsh reality, but not offensive. What IS offensive is your response to my comments when I did not involve you in a personal discussion.

I doubt the hole left from your cock would be big enough for a fruit loop.

 

You are one crazy jerk. Calling Marc Dylan a "con artist" is offensive. I'm guessing you're a fat, ugly jerk with a 1 inch penis and that's why your experience was bad. Although, frankly, I doubt you ever met Mr. Dylan.

 

Go away, you smell.

[operalover21]

I see no reason for a personal attack by you - we are discussing an escorts attributes and our impressions in an open forum. Unless you are a shill for him posting positive spin about your experience perhaps in exchange for free sessions I don't know why you're taking it personally. And there is nothing offensive about calling him a con artist if that is truly how I felt after my experience; it's a harsh reality, but not offensive. What IS offensive is your response to my comments when I did not involve you in a personal discussion.

 

I've been around here a lot longer than you, jackass. Calling someone a "con artist" is not describing your experience. It shows a personal animus that may -- or may not -- be based on a real experience you had. What proof do we have you ever met him? You're new around here; no one knows you. You're making an offensive comments about a highly rated escort that MANY people have had very positive experiences with. Now you accuse me of being a "shill" without even knowing who I am. That says more about you than it does about me.

 

I seriously doubt you've ever met Mr. Dylan but I certainly intend to ask him next time that I meet him.

 

Yes, I find this kind of thing offensive. It's one thing to describe bad experiences -- which we've all had -- it's quite another to be as offensive about it as you and attack the escort the way you have. I recently had a far worse -- and real -- experience than you claim to have had. I talked about it here. I didn't call the guy names. I didn't try to exact some sort of revenge which is what you seem to be trying to do.

 

You have a lot to learn, little man. You might want to stick to your local circle jerk parties.

[JamesNYC]

I've been around here a lot longer than you, jackass. Calling someone a "con artist" is not describing your experience. It shows a personal animus that may -- or may not -- be based on a real experience you had. What proof do we have you ever met him? You're new around here; no one knows you. You're making an offensive comments about a highly rated escort that MANY people have had very positive experiences with. Now you accuse me of being a "shill" without even knowing who I am. That says more about you than it does about me.

 

I seriously doubt you've ever met Mr. Dylan but I certainly intend to ask him next time that I meet him.

 

Yes, I find this kind of thing offensive. It's one thing to describe bad experiences -- which we've all had -- it's quite another to be as offensive about it as you and attack the escort the way you have. I recently had a far worse -- and real -- experience than you claim to have had. I talked about it here. I didn't call the guy names. I didn't try to exact some sort of revenge which is what you seem to be trying to do.

 

You have a lot to learn, little man. You might want to stick to your local circle jerk parties.

 

I don't exactly see what could be construed as an attack in my original comments about him. Someone who charges differently for different people or different acts is not really acting professionally since that is not considered the norm in this business. That I found him charmless and unengaging sexually is a personal opinion, and frankly I phrased it very politely considering what my experience was. Put those two things together and it doesn't seem far off to say "he is just on this side of being a con artist" for that behavior. And I don't think I'm alone in saying that, nor do I consider it name calling. It's more like calling the kettle black. That you have been here longer than I does not give you a pass to become unhinged and directly insult me, because as I said before I am not speaking about you or about anything that has to do with you. However calling someone a "crazy jerk", a "fat, ugly jerk with a 1 inch penis", smelly, a jackass, and "poor jerks who live in trailer parks" could possibly be construed as offensive and a display of unwarranted personal animus, certainly far more than calling an escort who displayed the above behavior a potential con man. You might want to check that pot of bitterness you have on the stove...I think it's boiling over.

[lithen]

I don't exactly see what could be construed as an attack in my original comments about him. Someone who charges differently for different people or different acts is not really acting professionally since that is not considered the norm in this business. That I found him charmless and unengaging sexually is a personal opinion, and frankly I phrased it very politely considering what my experience was. Put those two things together and it doesn't seem far off to say "he is just on this side of being a con artist" for that behavior. And I don't think I'm alone in saying that, nor do I consider it name calling. It's more like calling the kettle black. That you have been here longer than I does not give you a pass to become unhinged and directly insult me, because as I said before I am not speaking about you or about anything that has to do with you. However calling someone a "crazy jerk", a "fat, ugly jerk with a 1 inch penis", smelly, a jackass, and "poor jerks who live in trailer parks" could possibly be construed as offensive and a display of unwarranted personal animus, certainly far more than calling an escort who displayed the above behavior a potential con man. You might want to check that pot of bitterness you have on the stove...I think it's boiling over.

 

I have to agree with JamesNYC on Mr Marc Dylan. I found his personality very bland and the experience was awkward. He also has a lot of acne on his chest and buttocks. Marc and I agreed on a 2 hour session for 600. I put his fee on the dresser. We both undressed and he gave me a massage that last about 20 minutes. I gave him oral for 30 minutes before I came. I went to the bathroom to clean up. By the time I walked out, he was already dressed. Our time lasted exactly an hour. He made no attempts to stay for the remaining time. I would have expected him to at least offer me a massage for the remaining time but he didn't. Since he already packed up his massage oils and getting ready to leave, I decided to just let him go.

[operalover21]

This is going to be my last comment on this thread because I think it's obvious from a couple of the comments that this stuff about Marc Dylan is being completely made up. Only these people know the reason for whatever their vendetta is but it's a pretty sad state of affairs when a couple newbies can show up and just start going about smearing someone's reputation. Acne on his back and chest? Really. Anyone who has watched the videos and has seen Marc in person would know that his physique is flawless. This is utter nonsense. And the behavior of "Lithen" is also completely out of character to what hundreds of satisfied clients have experienced with Marc Dylan. I seriously doubt that encounter ever happened.

 

I spoke with Marc Dylan last night -- who is currently very busy in Chicago serving his many loyal clients there -- and he confirmed what I suspected: he has never met anyone who fits the description of "JamesNYC" recently or anytime in the past.

 

I think this forum is important for airing the views of escorts and clients when it comes to actual encounters. Making shit up isn't right or should it be acceptable. Another rule of thumb around here is that you don't review an escort in the forums; you submit a review. Write a review; give the escort a chance to respond. Don't play hit and run or definitely don't continue to lie because of whatever problem you have with yourself.

 

Here endeth the lesson.

[lithen]

This is going to be my last comment on this thread because I think it's obvious from a couple of the comments that this stuff about Marc Dylan is being completely made up. Only these people know the reason for whatever their vendetta is but it's a pretty sad state of affairs when a couple newbies can show up and just start going about smearing someone's reputation. Acne on his back and chest? Really. Anyone who has watched the videos and has seen Marc in person would know that his physique is flawless. This is utter nonsense. And the behavior of "Lithen" is also completely out of character to what hundreds of satisfied clients have experienced with Marc Dylan. I seriously doubt that encounter ever happened.

 

I spoke with Marc Dylan last night -- who is currently very busy in Chicago serving his many loyal clients there -- and he confirmed what I suspected: he has never met anyone who fits the description of "JamesNYC" recently or anytime in the past.

 

I think this forum is important for airing the views of escorts and clients when it comes to actual encounters. Making shit up isn't right or should it be acceptable. Another rule of thumb around here is that you don't review an escort in the forums; you submit a review. Write a review; give the escort a chance to respond. Don't play hit and run or definitely don't continue to lie because of whatever problem you have with yourself.

 

Here endeth the lesson.

Anyone who has hired him last month in NYC would notice the bad acne or ingrown hairs on his chest and buttocks. It's not the main reason why I chose to write my review, it's the fact that he left an hour earlier than what we agreed on. I've been on this forum longer than you opera, does this make my post any more credible than yours? It doesn't, therefore you shouldn't be calling anyone a newbie. I would have been quite satisfied if he didn't cheat me an hour. It's an expensive lesson I learned to never put money up front unless they request it.

[JT Brooklyn]

I do agree! "Forum Negative Reviews" without giving the "Working Guy" in question a chance to Respond is definitely unfair!

 

All Face to Face Sessions should be in the Reviews!

[MscleLovr]

I agree that reviews should be complete and submitted in the proper way, but I have found this thread interesting. My very brief contact with Marc Dylan supports some of the critical comments made.

 

I was intrigued, however, by Operalover's comment of "hundreds of satisfied clients" so I decided to check the review section. There is a grand total of 2 published reviews, which surprised me for such a supposedly stellar working guy.

 

Incidentally, on the related topic of discreet and costly hiring of working guys, I have been to 2 such parties. The guys were not porn-performers and not men who advertise their availability. They were all young men (aged 21-30), a mix of male models, personal trainers and actors, all handsome and fit-bodied and presumably in need of extra cash. Payment was handled before each party and sexual activity was mainly in private.

[bigvalboy]

I agree that reviews should be complete and submitted in the proper way,

 

However, what is interesting is what I see is clearly a gray area in the rules. At what point is a negative comment construed as a review. People make negative comments all the time. I certainly did, and a member called it appalling, yet another member said far more negative things about the same escort and somehow that was OK...I am genuinely confused. My policy is that if I want to warn members about a negative experience, which is one of the main purposes of the site, then I tend to keep that comment vague at best. If someone then wants more detail and asks for a pm then I will send it. If the admin has more suggestions or a better way to handle this, I am all ears...