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If the management is instituting a new policy of removing the reply function for posts they don't like I wish they'd enter it in the rules or explain their reasons for doing so.

Both FFF and fukamarine deserve better treatment than this.x(

Posted

Les, many here may agree with you on this but we have a tendency to sometimes forget that this site is the property of one individual, therefore it is not a Democracy. We are just occasional Visitors here to converse with men of like interest(and sometimes conflicts) and hopefully enjoy ourselves and maybe get a few laughs (or great pictures) along the way. I have compared this site to The Land of Oz a few times (The Land of Hoo). There is much behind the curtain we do not know or understand but remember behind all the smoke and mirrors Oz was a pretty decent and smart guy. This site also has its Wicked Witches of the West but, what would the story be like without the witch! I have never met anyone that manages or owns this site (The Great and Powerful Hoo) but because this site has given me much pleasure, mainly by giving me a way to meet some Great Escorts,I've got to believe that our own Oz(Hoo) is also a decent and smart guy there behind the Curtain.

 

And by the way your past due on posting some new pics... how about someone with a defined smooth chest and big nipples!

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We occasionally lock threads and always have. This is nothing new.

 

We're discussing changes to the rules in the moderators forum now, mostly to bring the rules in synch with current operations.

 

The following paragraph, taken directly from the rules, still applies:

 

"We reserve the right to modify the guidelines as necessary to meet the needs of the ever-evolving forum community. Changes in the guidelines will be posted in this document. We further reserve the right not to publish your post if it is judged to be inappropriate, regardless of the published guidelines."

Posted

OK...Deej, Hoo et.al. You guys know me. I'm not one to jump into the pot unless I really have something to say. I've also experienced life on your side of the fence during some fairly turbulent times. So please endulge me a few humble thoughts.

 

>We occasionally lock threads and always have. This is nothing

>new.

 

This is true but locking a thread without a clear reason is parental. Sometimes the reason is obvious to at least most of us but in this case it certainly isn't clear to me.

 

>

>The following paragraph, taken directly from the rules, still

>applies:

>

>"We reserve the right to modify the guidelines as necessary

>to meet the needs of the ever-evolving forum community.

>Changes in the guidelines will be posted in this document. We

>further reserve the right not to publish your post if it is

>judged to be inappropriate, regardless of the published

>guidelines."

 

If we are a "community" then please give us the respect of an explanation when actions are taken. We don't have to agree but pointing us to a broad brush disclaimer adds nothing to the community. Part of evolution is learning within the environment. Without the learning it seems more like genetic reengineering than evolution. My Dad used to say "That's inappropriate" and smart ass me used to always ask "Why?". His so common response was "because it's my house and I say so".

 

This is indeed Hoo's house but if we have devolved to a "because I say so" mentality, then in your revisions please consider removing the word community. Group would fit better....much more sterile, distant and uninvolved.

 

IMHO Respectfully, Barry

Posted

The nips may come up a little short but purrrrfect pecs and the Cock rises to the occasion. Plus, he has just the right amount of hair in all the right places. You've cum thru again! Thanks....

 

....KY

Posted

>This is true but locking a thread without a clear reason is

>parental. Sometimes the reason is obvious to at least most of

>us but in this case it certainly isn't clear to me.

 

So explaining the rule that was broken IN THE THREAD THAT REQUIRED ACTION isn't clear?

 

Did you actually read what I posted?

 

I love ya Barry, but if you go back and read it you'll find it pretty clear. A rule was broken. We took action.

 

We take action when rules are broken.

 

What part of this do I need to explain?

Posted

>So explaining the rule that was broken IN THE THREAD THAT

>REQUIRED ACTION isn't clear?

>

>Did you actually read what I posted?

 

Now this really confused me Deej. You're an intelligent guy so I'm thinking....What did I miss? So I went back to all THREE locked threads to find the posting by "Deej" that would explain this all to me. Low and behold none of the threads has a posting by Deej. Well OK, what am I missing here? So I go back and read every post.....carefully.

 

YAY! I found it. Someone (not signed so I don't know who) inserted this at the end of a post by FFF.

 

<<remainder removed for message center rules violation>>

 

Personal information is extended to include other information about an individual that is beyond the scope of client or escort activities

 

See "message center rules"

 

Fine...now that makes some sense. So why couldn't you have just directed us simple minded folk to this nicely tucked away but very clear explanation.

 

>I love ya Barry,

 

Love ya too guy :-)

 

>What part of this do I need to explain?

 

No comment!! XOXO Barry

Posted

>Fine...now that makes some sense. So why couldn't you have

>just directed us simple minded folk to this nicely tucked away

>but very clear explanation.

 

I posted it.

 

I can refer people to it (as I did you), but I can't help if they won't read it.

 

<shrug>

Posted

It might be explained (but this IMHO) and by what has been discussed here before is "to much and to many quotes" that you loose track of the conversation and who said, he said, we all said, but not sure if anyone said. HUGS Chuck:9

Posted

From what I know, FFF posted private and personal information about an individual and that was why his posts were edited or deleted.

 

I am sorry it was not explained more clearly but the moderators were doing their job.

 

I tried several times to respond before I realized the thread had been locked. But that is the moderators prerogative.

 

Curiously, not ONE person emailed me to ask why?

Posted

>From what I know, FFF posted private and personal information

>about an individual and that was why his posts were edited or

>deleted.

 

Thanks Hoo. A clear, short and simple answer to the question. :*

Posted

". . . There Was No One Left To Speak Up For Me"

 

>If the management is instituting a new policy of removing the

>reply function for posts they don't like I wish they'd enter

>it in the rules or explain their reasons for doing so.

 

>Both FFF and fukamarine deserve better treatment than this.x(

>

 

Without having read the threads in questions (for reasons anyone who has followed my postings previously on the subject of this board can well imagine and understand), I feel somewhat like the religious affinity group complaining about some popular entertainment based on here-say and not direct knowledge.

 

So I will generally comment: A community is a democracy, a self-policing one. While there may be rules enforced by a few to protect the interests of minorities within the community, to limit discord and promote discourse, such rules should be clear, they should be evenly and equally enforced and the enforcement should be transparent.

 

I have stated in the past the this is certainly a proprietary site. While I may have my own opinion about how I may have handled situation "a" or situation "b" were I to believe that this community forum (versus the balance of the site) were being run in capricious and unfair manner, I would simply either limit or decline to participate (akin to refusing to shop or only buying what one cannot find elsewhere from a commerical establishment).

 

However, in these two particular instances, I make the assumption that the edited FFF post did not state edited by Deej on _________. If so, that should have been clear enough, with the explanation and if missed by people, they have not been paying attention, but perhaps this should be included more specifically in the RULES.

 

Finally, I saw no explanation with respect to the question raised by Les nor the question Fukamarine raised to Daddy.

 

Obviously, not everyone is reading the RULES or simply scans them. However, the point of RULES is to provide guidance and information. RULES which are unclear or imprecise or to simply refer back to essentially boiler plate language can reflect a disregard and lack of courtesy to this forum as a community.

 

I believe RULES are definitely necessary. But as Hoo Boy pointed out in the E-mail section, if you are the recipient of 'rules' or 'terms of service' which seem arbitrary, capricious or even childish, you do not end up with a great deal of respect to the provider and enforcer of those 'rules.'

 

By being transparent and by providing a reasonable amount of information, the administrators, owners and moderators of this site show respect to both the idea and reality of this community. Such a community is, in my opinion, a worthy objective and often a genuine reality such that is both worth preserving and nurturing.

 

By the way, when the new board was instituted, Daddy and Hoo Boy were shown as Moderators of all forums, in addition to Los Gatan, Deej and BottomBoyKK. If Daddy is going to take the position that he is not one and if Hoo Boy is going to take the position that the moderators can act without either his prior knowledge or blessing, than perhaps this should be both claified and rectified.

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