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[bigvalboy]

Welcome here! Friendly people are wonderful!

 

You probably missed it, but daddy fired much more than a "warning shot" over the holidays.

 

As far as PM's while in timeout, I am guessing that is not possible, as time-outs must prevent one from logging on in the first place? deej?

 

As one who was sent to time-out...at least for me I was able to log on and view the threads, but I was unable to post any comments or use private message feature....The first time I tried logging on, it prevented me from doing so, but I remember trying a couple of different things, though I don't really remember what exactly, and eventually I was able to view the threads but could not post. It was a very frustrating time...LOL and I can assure everyone that I will not allow myself to be in that position again...

[Steven_Draker]

Feuds

 

Glutes, your friend will be back when Daddy decides it's time for him to come back ... as you were back here to post after your time-out(s). You have no control over it.

 

The day your friend stops getting the attention you're giving him he'll calm down ... I don't see that happening anytime soon.

http://fc09.deviantart.net/images/i/2003/40/2/8/Evil_Poking_Emoticon.gif

 

Now show me some true class and humility.

[MiamiLooker]

As one who was sent to time-out...at least for me I was able to log on and view the threads, but I was unable to post any comments or use private message feature....The first time I tried logging on, it prevented me from doing so, but I remember trying a couple of different things, though I don't really remember what exactly, and eventually I was able to view the threads but could not post. It was a very frustrating time...LOL and I can assure everyone that I will not allow myself to be in that position again...

 

It isn't necessary to logon to view the threads.

[Bart]

Ahhh the days of the good old time out. The first of the year and the first closed thread of the year. Daddy is far less tolerant of these issues than hooboy was in the day. There is no place racial slurs and personal attacks especially with malice. I still remember the heated attack between rockhard, Doug69 and Juan. As a general rule of thumb, I never understood the reason to beat a subject to death. Make a comment and move on, especially deli and lounge. I never did get the idea why some posters always have to have a comment on every thread or odder still, why when some posters have a post a certain other poster always jumps in to make counter or better called sniper comment, a sort of death by 1,000 cuts. Sometimes these things are so silly I mean to this day you can't bring up the name of B. . . ., no wont go there, no less four posters will come out of the woodwork. So make your point and move on and maybe not be be so thin skinned. Best way to handle that is don't go back to thread after you posted, then you can't feel all the knives in your back.

[leanbtm]

I do not post much here but the person in question did create an un-warranted, hostile environment. Posting for the sake of posting, combative and immature, quite inappropriate for someone of his professed age. It got to the point that I stopped reading the Deli forum because you could bet that in any given thread he would have made any number of postings that brought nothing to the table and that were often along the lines of "nyahhh, nyahhh, nyahhh yahhhh" from elementary school yard days. It always amazed me that he would often say "I don't hire much but when I do......" but he averaged something like 14 or 15 posts a day while always claiming that he had a great life and wide circle of friends when it was evident quite the opposite was true, I often felt sorry for him on that point ( the Democrat in me ). I have worked with a few mean spirited self absorped people like him and they are just best avoided sorry to say.

[Michael Wayne]

as a constant victim of his rantings and false malicious attacks I certainly feel good about this. I mean when my daddys reviews say one thing and and ONE or TWO posters who has never met me say only negative things about me then it is obvious who is right and who is wrong. Now, free speech does NOT apply in a private forum and, as well, slander and libel are not allowed even in public! Finally, his BASIC attitude toward pros is negative and he LOOKS DOWN on us. Almost all the members here are here cause they ADMIRE us or want/need our services and we as providers THANK THEM and we are so BLESSED to have yall as our clients/admirers. Those of us who are GOOD are good for one reason: WE ARE NICE TO THE CLIENTS!!!!!! You can have a killer bod, model face and 10 inch weiner and wash out in this biz if you are not NICE!!!!! All I ask of yall is to be nice to us in return whether you hire us or not and whether we are your type or not. JJ simply could not be a nice guy. I think at times he tried. I reached out to him several times very nicely and I forgave his maliciousness several times but he saw as as a piece of meat and not a person. I hope he comes back a changed and reformed man. I wish him well. http://www.rentboy.com/mikey9nola1 "I am not about the CLOCK, I am about the COCK!"

[jankeedaddy]

Dear Mikey, Here we are in Oz. Everyone is not equal here and evil lurks in the corners and patches of poppies. There are flying monkeys. Like Dorothy, escorts are exposed to all manner of danger, while clients mostly hide behind their screen names. There IS a two tiered system, and no matter how much the wizard tries to control behavior, some witches will try to pull the ruby slippers off the escorts.

I appreciate the moderate interactions between escorts and clients, as well as the persistence of escorts remaining here on the forum even after attacks are launched by witches. I really hope that there are enough benefits --- financial and psychological --- for you (all) to remain in Oz. I hope that clients respect the vulnerability of the escorts who expose themselves, while clients hide behind the curtain. Maxwell IS Smart in that he is also behind the curtain. So to all you witches, there may be a bucket of water in your future. I am sorry that Joey got killed by flying monkeys. I admire you for reanimation on the forum. Until clients have the same vulnerability as escorts there probably will continue to be flying monkeys, but all my best wishes to you and the other escorts who inhabit Oz and make it a more interesting place.

[bigvalboy]

What a beautiful Friday morning!!! Crystal clear here in SoCal, 70 degrees and climbing ..."All Quiet on the Western Front"

[robberbaron4u]

I am disappointed that you failed to notice me that you would be in my "neck of the woods" the course of the last three days. I had anticipated drinks in the Polo Lounge, and, a leisurely stroll to Taboo for dining. So sad to be all alone on The Island. . .

[RockHard]

We all judge. And that's the truth.

 

I do think it is a tad ironic that, in the "vote off the island" thread, Mr. Draker was the 1st responder who advised "to ignore the poster who you find repulsive." And here he's the OP "applaud(ing) Daddy for taking action." Just an observation, not an attack. I love SD.

 

Personally, I think it's really difficult (and takes more work) to ignore an aggressive asshole troll, who is constantly pushing his shit in your face, especially when you consider the few numbers who contribute here. Bully cancer spreads quickly on this board, so I enjoy Daddy (and this board) more when he's pro-active.

 

So make your point and move on

 

I fail to understand why the controlling folk on the web should have veto power over other people's choices. Telling someone what to say and how to say it is a control issue that is better suited for therapy.

 

I still remember the heated attack between rockhard, Doug69 and Juan.

 

I don't know who Juan is referring to, and I don't recall any entanglement with a poster by that name. Back in the Doug69 days (2006), I made a "Do Not Respond" list, I guess the equivalent of today's "Ignore." There is no Juan on that list.

 

Some readers are not aware that I do not engage in "personal" attacks unless someone else attacks me first. My feeling is this: If you are out to cut me with your tongue, I will respond in kind.

 

I realize I can be relentless when in a fight with bullies, which can also make me look like a bully, too. Some readers have the impression that I am an aggressor. It's a false perception I can't really control. I am a strong man, physically and emotionally. If an escort turns into a thief and tries to rip me off, I know how to bring him down. I don't ever play the pussy role. But the truth is: I'm not aggressive in my non-web life, unless my life, or the life of those I love, feels threatened.

 

I don't participate on this board with an agenda of destruction. I build things for a living. Sure, some of my comments may "sound" harsh, but that may be augmented by the fact that no one can hear my voice. If you don't know what I sound like, you will interject your own tone into my words. And that's not fair. I deal with it.

 

Back in my day as a brand new poster here, Doug69 and others brought their attacks to me. I have my own history with bullies, and I've learned how to defend myself against bully internet trolls.

 

I have always found the TOS rules here ambiguous. And I also feel they can be enforced or ignored with bias. Daddy seems to provide a lot of latitude, and I'm guilty of taking advantage of the extra rope.

 

When someone has been timed out I always wonder if it helped "modify" the bad behavior?

 

It seems to me, not all "Time-Outs" are created equal. Back on Dec 10, I wrote what I thought was a very funny post on Daddy's Potshot thread. Daddy may have been in a sour mood and he "Grinched" me, claiming "Violations of Holiday Cheer." I thought my humor was extremely cheerful (it made me laugh), but my humor, apparently, flew over several other heads, as well.

 

I wrote Daddy to say that I was surprised by his reaction, since I felt it was holiday cheer that inspired my writing. He wrote back to explain (somewhat), and offered to end my Time-Out sooner if I wanted. Since I was about to leave for Paris, I didn't see any reason to make him do the extra work. By the time I returned to NYC, the Time-Out had expired.

 

Today, I'm less invested in this board, and that could be a result of the many Time-Outs I've received. (I personally feel all of them were unfair in spite of my guilt.) The bottom line: the board is not mine. If I truly hate the way it's run, I can go elsewhere.

 

but can this poster just reinvent himself with a different user name and start all over again?

 

Unfortunately, yes he can. Like I said, Daddy offers a lot of latitude here.

[tom1980]

Letting clients know your travel schedule

 

I am disappointed that you failed to notice me that you would be in my "neck of the woods" the course of the last three days. I had anticipated drinks in the Polo Lounge, and, a leisurely stroll to Taboo for dining. So sad to be all alone on The Island. . .

 

I think robber's post was mainly in jest, but (to respond to one of mikey's original points) I would be disappointed if certain guys I've seen before came to Dallas without sending me an email or text. If I've had a really good session, then I ask the guy if he plans to come back to Dallas. If he says yes, I tell him that I'd like to see him again and ask him to contact me when he makes his travel plans. This is very different from an escort sending a message to every guy they've seen in a given location to advertise his plans. If I ask a guy to tell me when he'll be in town and then see he's posted an ad without telling me, I'm not sure if he forgot to contact me or if he doesn't want to see me again.

[robberbaron4u]

I've never been "tar and feathered" by a "hire" on a "date"; I thought it might be an exhilirating, albeit exquisitely painful, thing.

[robberbaron4u]

And, of course, there are those bullies who are "succulent". . .

[tom1980]

Oops

 

I think robber's post was mainly in jest, but (to respond to one of mikey's original points) I would be disappointed if certain guys I've seen before came to Dallas without sending me an email or text. If I've had a really good session, then I ask the guy if he plans to come back to Dallas. If he says yes, I tell him that I'd like to see him again and ask him to contact me when he makes his travel plans. This is very different from an escort sending a message to every guy they've seen in a given location to advertise his plans. If I ask a guy to tell me when he'll be in town and then see he's posted an ad without telling me, I'm not sure if he forgot to contact me or if he doesn't want to see me again.

 

Just realized that I got the threads confused. My reference to Mikey's point refers to his post in the definition of discretion thread that he started this morning. Hope this clears up any confusion.

[+ glutes]

I do think it is a tad ironic that, in the "vote off the island" thread, Mr. Draker was the 1st responder who advised "to ignore the poster who you find repulsive." And here he's the OP "applaud(ing) Daddy for taking action." Just an observation, not an attack. I love SD.

 

 

Ah, someone else caught on. Very good Mr. Hard, I concur in every sense.

 

Now here is a quote some of you can nibble on:

 

Anyone who reads these threads knows that I am the person Lucky. There is no reason to be coy. And since you dont know me, before you comment about me, you should understand why the post was made. I just dont go around making snarky comments at people for No reason.

Before jumping on the wagon and taking sides, you should know Both sides of a story. Glutes campaign is NOT about a singular thread. Its the culmination of another one of his obsessions. And you guys call yourself a "fair" group. Not so much ! Every criminal gets his day in court.

[Steven_Draker]

I do think it is a tad ironic that, in the "vote off the island" thread, Mr. Draker was the 1st responder who advised "to ignore the poster who you find repulsive." And here he's the OP "applaud(ing) Daddy for taking action." Just an observation, not an attack. I love SD.

 

I love you too ... Both ideas aren't antagonistic IMHO, RH.

 

I still think that Brother Glutes could ignore the poster on time-out and not constantly bring it up here. Alas, obsessions are hard to fight.

 

How ironic is that even when that poster is on time-out, Brother Glutes keeps needling, poking and bringing up his name here. The public is getting tired of this old game. How about contributing something positive. I know that he has a gentle and caring side and I would love to see that facet shining in full power.

[RockHard]

Both ideas aren't antagonistic

 

This is true. And nor was I suggesting anything negative. My point is: if Daddy "ignores" a repulsive poster, the end result will be the the exact opposite of Daddy "taking action." Hence, the irony.

 

I can assure you many forum members support you for supporting Daddy in his decision to take action.

 

Brother Glutes keeps needling, poking and bringing up his name here...Alas, obsessions are hard to fight.

 

Obsession was the name given to Calvin Klein's first perfume back in 1985. Imagine how difficult is was and the pressure associated with that multi-million-dollar branding decision.

 

Persistent thoughts of men tend to find a dominant place on this board. I don't have an explanation for it. Just like I don't have an explanation as to why certain scents drive certain men crazy. It seems to be a nature for some among this beast.

 

Have you tried sending your brother a PM, suggesting that you and others have grown weary of his obsessions? From a business perspective, it's never good to reveal a perception that you are reprimanding (or judging) a customer in public.

[bigvalboy]

Have you tried sending your brother a PM, suggesting that you and others have grown weary of his obsessions? From a business perspective, it's never good to reveal a perception that you are reprimanding (or judging) a customer in public

 

Brother Glutes needs no such PM nor does he deserve any such reprimand or "judging" and he is certainly not anyones customer...IMHO

[+ Lucky]

Ah, someone else caught on. Very good Mr. Hard, I concur in every sense.

 

Now here is a quote some of you can nibble on:

 

Anyone who reads these threads knows that I am the person Lucky. There is no reason to be coy. And since you dont know me, before you comment about me, you should understand why the post was made. I just dont go around making snarky comments at people for No reason.

Before jumping on the wagon and taking sides, you should know Both sides of a story. Glutes campaign is NOT about a singular thread. Its the culmination of another one of his obsessions. And you guys call yourself a "fair" group. Not so much ! Every criminal gets his day in court.

 

glutes, I don't get this. This is not a quote from me.

 

As for this thread in general, everyone is talking about the need to be nice on the forums. The thread is started by Steven Draker, formerly known as IceFire Wizard, an alter ego where he posted many nasty, outright mean things. Yet he gave that up. Another poster, vigbalboy, talks about how he has improved on these things thanks to others sending him private messages calling him on his behavior. If we used the adage on he who lives (or lived) in a glass house, there would be fewer posts in this thread, which seems to be going on ad nauseum. The point is that many came here and enjoyed the anonymity the board offers and did not mind their manners. Over time, many of us have realized that a successful board requires folks to mind their manners, and most of us want a successful board- a friendly place where we can come to chat and exchange ideas.

 

It is often the case that posters tire of a thread that has gone on for a long time. They take it upon themselves to call for the thread to end. So far, they are silent on this thread being cut off, but really, what more of value can be said?

[EZEtoGRU]

Brother Glutes needs no such PM nor does he deserve any such reprimand or "judging" and he is certainly not anyones customer...IMHO

I agree with with BVB here. Glutes' only crime is in being unrelenting in shining a spotlight on the truth. Like Rockhard, I don't understand why this time out took so long to be imposed. Other's seem to get timed-out for much more minor infractions whilst this poster's reign of terror lasted for 7-8 months. In the end, it's not our website. Daddy & Co have difficult decisions to make every day. None of us posters have access to all the evidence like daddy does.

[N13]

I blocked him!

 

N13

[seeker630]

I agree with with BVB here. Glutes' only crime is in being unrelenting in shining a spotlight on the truth. Like Rockhard, I don't understand why this time out took so long to be imposed. Other's seem to get timed-out for much more minor infractions whilst this poster's reign of terror lasted for 7-8 months. In the end, it's not our website. Daddy & Co have difficult decisions to make every day. None of us posters have access to all the evidence like daddy does.

 

Sorry, despite Glutes' real contibutions to the forum, I think that recycling the same old charges periodically and irrelevantly does nothing but stir the pot, in my opinion. And his 'truth' isn't, always. Remember his accusations that a certain escort had no teeth?

 

And..hasn't the original title of this thread become increasingly ironic, as all of us continue with our judgments?

[Steven_Draker]

Dear Mikey, Here we are in Oz. Everyone is not equal here and evil lurks in the corners and patches of poppies. There are flying monkeys. Like Dorothy, escorts are exposed to all manner of danger, while clients mostly hide behind their screen names. There IS a two tiered system, and no matter how much the wizard tries to control behavior, some witches will try to pull the ruby slippers off the escorts.

I appreciate the moderate interactions between escorts and clients, as well as the persistence of escorts remaining here on the forum even after attacks are launched by witches. I really hope that there are enough benefits --- financial and psychological --- for you (all) to remain in Oz. I hope that clients respect the vulnerability of the escorts who expose themselves, while clients hide behind the curtain. Maxwell IS Smart in that he is also behind the curtain. So to all you witches, there may be a bucket of water in your future. I am sorry that Joey got killed by flying monkeys. I admire you for reanimation on the forum. Until clients have the same vulnerability as escorts there probably will continue to be flying monkeys ...[/size]

 

Can I nominate this for the "Best post of the Year" contest?

 

http://in10words.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/burns-flying-monkeys.jpg?w=510&h=382

[RockHard]

glutes, I don't get this. This is not a quote from me.

 

Lucky, I'm sure he didn't mean to confuse you. Since you share your attention between more than one board, you might not immediately recognize the source of the quote. Those of us who post here exclusively, probably knew the source of the quote is the subject of this thread.

 

Whenever you quote someone, I always recommend providing credit to avoid confusion. It's the kind thing to do.

 

As for this thread in general, everyone is talking about the need to be nice on the forums.

 

Not me. I don't care about "nice." That sounds like some Pollyanna/Stepford Wife sissy approach to life. Show me a dynamic personality with a smart brain, a strong opinion, and a clever way with words, and I just might show you a stiff erection. I come here to be turned on and entertained. If I wanted nice, I'd go to church.

 

What I care about is banning those members who are hell-bent on personal attacks at every turn. I love caustic sarcasm, and I love a man who knows how to get his corrosive point across without calling someone ugly names. I understand that the "attack" line can get blurry on the web, depending how smart a writer you are and how sensitive the reader is. IMO, people (the person) who cross the line on a regular basis is quite clear.

 

Yet he (SD) gave that up.

 

Unlike many who have transgressed here (cough, cough), SD apologized to the board and explained himself fully. Some men don't run from showing their true character, while other men pretend to have character. (Of course, I think Lucky has character, but she, too, fully knows how to push buttons.)

 

If we used the adage on he who lives (or lived) in a glass house, there would be fewer posts in this thread.

 

Perfection is not required, IMO. Just don't behave like a complete asshole 99.9% of the time you post. If you can't contribute to the board without slashing someone's throat on almost every thread, then, IMO, you should be banned permanently. Block the damn IP address.

 

It is often the case that posters tire of a thread that has gone on for a long time. They take it upon themselves to call for the thread to end. So far, they are silent on this thread being cut off, but really, what more of value can be said?

 

Sounds a little controlling if you ask me.

[Epigonos]

This thread is becoming "almost" as tiresome as the one to which it refers.