palm springs... beyond hooville

[NYTomcat]

Ok well we are all aware of the upcoming annual hooville event but I've decided to extend my stay so that I will be making a long week of the event. Hoping to do some hiking and playing dessert rat as well as getting to know the city.

 

So any suggestions on:

 

1) restaurants

 

2) bars. Gay, leather, dance etc... all genre are up for consideration

 

3) outdoor activities. .. places to hike.. ATV etc.

 

4) good shopping ( I am gay hello) I hear gear leather is a must see.

 

Any and all suggestions would be appreciated. Gay.. not so gay.. leather romantic whatever. Its my first trip to the springs

[Guest greatness]

I bet you guys love italian food. I liked Johnny Costa's Ristorante. I love their food and everything is so fresh. Try it if you have a chance. Palm Canyon is a natural beauty and you will enjoy hiking there. Those are two things I can think of. There are many Palm Spring members here so I guess they can help you more. Are you kids going to travel with you? If they are I recommend Children's Discovery Museum of the Desert. They can have a lot of fun activities there. I hope you have a great time in Palm Springs. Hugs~~~

 

Ok well we are all aware of the upcoming annual hooville event but I've decided to extend my stay so that I will be making a long week of the event. Hoping to do some hiking and playing dessert rat as well as getting to know the city.

 

So any suggestions on:

 

1) restaurants

 

2) bars. Gay, leather, dance etc... all genre are up for consideration

 

3) outdoor activities. .. places to hike.. ATV etc.

 

4) good shopping ( I am gay hello) I hear gear leather is a must see.

 

Any and all suggestions would be appreciated. Gay.. not so gay.. leather romantic whatever. Its my first trip to the springs

[NYTomcat]

I bet you guys love italian food. I liked Johnny Costa's Ristorante. I love their food and everything is so fresh. Try it if you have a chance. Palm Canyon is a natural beauty and you will enjoy hiking there. Those are two things I can think of. There are many Palm Spring members here so I guess they can help you more. Are you kids going to travel with you? If they are I recommend Children's Discovery Museum of the Desert. They can have a lot of fun activities there. I hope you have a great time in Palm Springs. Hugs~~~

 

I Thank you for the restaurant advice and I am definately hitting palm Canyon with a guest. But No G I dont think having my kids with me in Palm Springs especially for the Hooville weekend would be in any way appropriate. There are vacations with the kids... This really is not such a vacation. While I say not so gay thats because I dont believe everything we do must revolve around our sexuality but it is a major thrust of the time there.

[Rick Munroe]

Hoping to do some hiking and playing dessert rat

 

I've never heard of having rats for dessert but hey, to each his own. Is that a Vietnamese delicacy?

 

outdoor activities. .. places to hike.. ATV etc.

 

There's lots of great hiking in the desert, but be sure to also take the tramway up Chino Canyon. It's the world's largest rotating tramcar; it takes you 2 and a half miles up to pristine wilderness and spectacular views (I stole that from their website). Here's the info & you can buy your tickets in advance on-line here: Palm Springs Aerial Tramway

 

good shopping ( I am gay hello)

 

Oh my (sorry, greatness; I stole your phrase), I must be straight because I hate shopping. (Seriously, we don't like homophobes to stereotype us, so why do it to ourselves? There is no gay shopping gene!)

 

Oh, and of course no trip to PS would be complete without a pilgrimage to the Sonny Bono statue!

 

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_XHeeB1hijAY/R4vUUn17KtI/AAAAAAAAAKk/lNp4Q0aZW1c/s400/sonny-bono-statue.jpg

[+ Oliver]

1) restaurants See list sent by e-mail

3) outdoor activities. .. places to hike.. ATV etc.

a. Joshua Tree National Park - about an hour away by car

b. Palm Springs Tramway - to top of Mount San Jacinto (over 10,000 feet)

c. Living Desert, Palm Desert - a desert zoo

d. Indian Canyon - south of the city

e. Whitewater

f. Thursday evening street fair on Palm Canyon - starts at 6 pm

4) good shopping (I am gay hello) I hear gear leather is a must see. El Paseo in Palm Desert, the "Rodeo Drive" of the desert. Also Palm Canyon in PS.

 

That should help!

[nate_sf]

Joshua Tree, even if it's cold. Takes a good part of a day but worth it!

[AdamSmith]

I've never heard of having rats for dessert but hey, to each his own. Is that a Vietnamese delicacy?

 

Salvation Fuzz (Dead Bishop)

As featured in the Monty Python's Flying Circus TV Show - Episode 29

 

(Cut to a kitchen. A man and woman listening to a radio.)

 

Radio Voice: I would like to ask the team what they would do if they were Hitler.

 

Man's Voice: Gerald?

 

Another Voice: Well I'd annex the Sudetenland and sign a non-aggression pact with Russia.

 

First Man's Voice: Norman?

 

Norman's Voice: Well I'd do the Reichstag bathroom in purples and golds and ban abortion on demand.

 

Woman: (switching the radio off) Liberal rubbish. Klaus ... what do you want with your jugged fish?

 

Man: Halibut.

 

Woman: The jugged fish is halibut.

 

Man: What fish have you got that isn't jugged, then?

 

Woman: Rabbit.

 

Man: What? Rabbit fish?

 

Woman: Yes. It's got fins.

 

Man: Is it dead?

 

Woman: Well, it was coughing up blood last night.

 

Man: All right I'll have the dead unjugged rabbit fish.

 

CAPTION: 'ONE DEAD UNJUGGED RABBIT FISH LATER'

 

Man: Well that was really horrible.

 

Woman: You're always complaining.

 

Man: What's for afters?

 

Woman: Well there's rat cake ... rat sorbet... rat pudding... or strawberry tart.

 

Man: Strawberry tart?!

 

Woman: Well it's got some rat in it.

 

Man: How much?

 

Woman: Three, rather a lot really.

 

Man: ... well, I'll have a slice without so much rat in it.

 

CAPTION: 'ONE SLICE OF STRAWBERRY TART WITHOUT SO MUCH RAT IN IT LATER'

 

Man: Appalling.

 

Woman: Moan, moan, moan.

 

(Enter their son.)

 

Son: Hello, mum, hello, dad.

 

Man: Hello, son.

 

Son: There's a dead bishop on the landing.

 

Woman: Where did that come from?

 

Son: What do you mean?

 

Woman: What's its diocese?

 

Son: Well it looked a bit Bath and Wellsish to me.

 

Man: I'll go and have a look. (goes out)

 

Woman: I don't know who keeps bringing them in here.

 

Son: Well it's not me.

 

Woman: I've put three out by the bin and the dustmen won't touch 'em.

 

Man: (coming back) Leicester.

 

Woman: How do you know?

 

Man: Tattooed on the back of his neck. I'm going to call the police.

 

Woman: Shouldn't you call the Church?

 

Son: Call the Church police.

 

Man: ,.. all fight. (shouts) The Church police!

 

(Enter two policemen with ecclesiastical accoutrements.)

 

Church Policeman: Yus!

 

Woman: There's another dead bishop on the landing.

 

Church Policeman: Suffragan or diocesan?

 

Woman: How should I know?

 

Church Policeman: It's tattooed on the back of their necks. Ere! Is that rat tart?

 

Woman: Yes.

 

Church Policeman: Disgusting. Right! The hunt is on. (kneels) Oh Lord we beseech thee tell us who croaked Leicester.

 

(Organ music. A huge hand descends and points at the man.)

 

Man: All right, it's a fair cop, but society is to blame.

 

Church Policeman: Agreed.

 

Man: I would like the three by the bin to be taken into consideration.

 

Church Policeman: Right. And now, I'd like to conclude this arrest with a hymn.

 

All: (singing) And did those feet in ancient times walk upon England's mountains green. (policemen escort the man out) And was the holy lamb of God on England's pleasant pastures seen.

[Rick Munroe]

Man: ... well, I'll have a slice without so much rat in it.

 

I recommend that to Tomcat, too! (very funny sketch)

[justaguy]

Yes. Remember it's the desert--as the sun goes down, the temp drops quickly. There is a beauty to Joshua tree that's unlike anything the East Coast has. You'll either love it or hate it.

[NYTomcat]

 

 

Oh my (sorry, greatness; I stole your phrase), I must be straight because I hate shopping. (Seriously, we don't like homophobes to stereotype us, so why do it to ourselves? There is no gay shopping gene!)

 

 

I thought about this alot last night rick. But I think your wrong. Of course there is no gay shopping gene. Nor do all gay men like old Hollywood actresses (just you and I) but I had to think about the idea of us perpetuating stereotypes ...even in humor. But I think its incorrect to me are least. If you can't be honest and with humor make fun of where you do fit the public stereotype you give true homophobes the power to control your actions through trying to not laugh at yourself.

 

I am quintessentially gay as the stereotype in certain aspects. My love of bway music my shopping my eye for interior decorating. I don't wear woman's clothes but I do like fashion. If we can't laugh at where we are stereotypical. And enjoy laughing at our own foibles aren't we giving them the power to limit our own enjoyment of ourselves

 

I don't mind where I am classically gay. Hell I wear it like a badge of honor and can laugh at myself with my friends over it. I mean should a drag queen not wear drag because it perpetuates a misnomer about all gay men. I know what you meant and at first berated myself for doing it but. ... no in some respects I am a queen and can laugh and admit and accept those parts of me. There is nothing wrong with a stereotype as long ad you realize its just that... that everyone is different and that you don't prejudice your view of people because of it.

[RockHard]

Step away from the mirror, please.

 

14 I's in three short paragraphs, oh my. Kinda feel sorry for the PS party attendees.

[NYTomcat]

Adam I do love that. And you and rick for it lol.

 

Joshua tree for a day is a must I love the desert. And dessert. Lmao

 

I've actually been planning to rent a houseboat and do lake Powell. Sometime in the next few years. Did it with the kids im now just deciding what the debaucherous daddy's style trip might be like. 5 clients 5 escorts on a 14 person houseboat in the middle of nowhere with nothing but crystal clear water private beaches and... ok I think that desert heat is beginning to creep in here

[NYTomcat]

14 I's in three short paragraphs, oh my. Kinda feel sorry for the PS party attendees.

 

See and rockhard doesn't mind being the quintessential bitchy queen. And we love him for it. Stereotype and all...

[Guest Dane Scott]

Idyllwild- The hour ride up the Mountain is fantastic. The views are amazing. Great artist community.

 

http://www.idyllwild.com

 

Thursday night street fair. Love it.

[+ Charlie]

I thought about this alot last night rick. But I think your wrong. Of course there is no gay shopping gene. Nor do all gay men like old Hollywood actresses (just you and I) but I had to think about the idea of us perpetuating stereotypes ...even in humor. But I think its incorrect to me are least. If you can't be honest and with humor make fun of where you do fit the public stereotype you give true homophobes the power to control your actions through trying to not laugh at yourself.

 

I am quintessentially gay as the stereotype in certain aspects. My love of bway music my shopping my eye for interior decorating. I don't wear woman's clothes but I do like fashion. If we can't laugh at where we are stereotypical. And enjoy laughing at our own foibles aren't we giving them the power to limit our own enjoyment of ourselves

 

I don't mind where I am classically gay. Hell I wear it like a badge of honor and can laugh at myself with my friends over it. I mean should a drag queen not wear drag because it perpetuates a misnomer about all gay men. I know what you meant and at first berated myself for doing it but. ... no in some respects I am a queen and can laugh and admit and accept those parts of me. There is nothing wrong with a stereotype as long ad you realize its just that... that everyone is different and that you don't prejudice your view of people because of it.

 

I think I have been successful in avoiding anything that would cause someone to identify me as stereotypically gay. (OK, I have degrees in English literature, I love opera, address old friends as, "My dear," and I live in Palm Springs with a man I refer to as my 'partner,' but all that aside....) However, I recently adopted a miniature poodle from a shelter, and he has a FLOWERED COLLAR! I've been thinking of wearing butch cowboy boots when I walk him, to confuse onlookers.

[Guest greatness]

Oh my Charlie you are so cute~~~ I love English majors.. I feel like they will read books to me and tell me stories all night. Hugs~~~

 

I think I have been successful in avoiding anything that would cause someone to identify me as stereotypically gay. (OK, I have degrees in English literature, I love opera, address old friends as, "My dear," and I live in Palm Springs with a man I refer to as my 'partner,' but all that aside....) However, I recently adopted a miniature poodle from a shelter, and he has a FLOWERED COLLAR! I've been thinking of wearing butch cowboy boots when I walk him, to confuse onlookers.

[+ azdr0710]

self-deprecating humor is very healthy.....

 

 

the idea of us perpetuating stereotypes ...even in humor.

[Guest DuchessIvanaKizznhugg]

I've been thinking of wearing butch cowboy boots when I walk him, to confuse onlookers.

 

Might I suggest the perfect pair........

 

http://i965.photobucket.com/albums/ae139/DuchessIvanaKizznhugg/il_fullxfull84334161.jpg

[Guest greatness]

Tom I know you have a great fashion sense when I saw your sunglasses, shirt, hair cut and a jacket you bought for your friend. You are a hot trend maker. We should go shoe shopping one day. Hugs~~~

[Guest greatness]

Oh my Duchess.. You are so colorful~~ Hugs~~

[Guest DuchessIvanaKizznhugg]

See and rockhard doesn't mind being the quintessential bitchy queen. And we love him for it. Stereotype and all...

 

Doesn't mind, or can't help herself ?? :p:rolleyes:

 

*mwah*

[Epigonos]

Frankly NYTomcat I am also a dedicated shopper. Probably the best discount mall in Southern California is located just off the 10 Freeway in Cabazon. From your hotel it is about a fifteen to twenty minute drive west toward L.A. It has many high end stores including my favorite Salvatore Ferragamo. All together there are probably 100+ shops located there and even several lunch type restaurants. If you happen to be flying to LAX and driving to Palm Springs you will go right by it.

[Guest countryboywny]

14 I's in three short paragraphs, oh my. Kinda feel sorry for the PS party attendees.

 

I think it's perfectly fine to speak in terms of "I" statements, particularly when discussing broadly held beliefs, stereotypes etc. Tomcat was talking about HIS feelings and no one elses, lest it be construed as speaking for everyone.

 

keep talking about "I" Tom!

[NYTomcat]

Frankly NYTomcat I am also a dedicated shopper. Probably the best discount mall in Southern California is located just off the 10 Freeway in Cabazon. From your hotel it is about a fifteen to twenty minute drive west toward L.A. It has many high end stores including my favorite Salvatore Ferragamo. All together there are probably 100+ shops located there and even several lunch type restaurants. If you happen to be flying to LAX and driving to Palm Springs you will go right by it.

 

Ok now my gay little heart is beating faster. Thanks Epigonos. That's a definately.

[NYTomcat]

Idyllwild- The hour ride up the Mountain is fantastic. The views are amazing. Great artist community.

 

http://www.idyllwild.com

 

Thursday night street fair. Love it.

 

You know I didn't realize idyllwild was that close. Ok so we have Thursday night activities perfect thanks Dane. As always a man of great ideas and talents. Much appreciated