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Guest Jocoluver

I guess you want me and other customers to quit using your website!

 

Evidence:

 

1. I have to sign in with name/password every time. Ok, I can live with that.

 

2. Now everytime I sign in I have to click "Sort topics by"

 

3. Wait for "Setting your options. Please wait" (for endlessly rotating beach ball)

 

4. Click to collapse threads

 

5. Wait for threads to collapse (with endlessly rotating beach ball)

 

6. Deal with the titles being too long so that they will not display on a single (maximum width) window and I have to scroll across each line to see all the columns. Ok, I have learned to deal with that inconvenience.

 

It is an acceptable effort to mouse click the "sort by" and "Collapse" buttons, but it is such - a - pain - in - the - ass to watch that fucking rotating beach ball! (it's your server! I got cable modem)

 

7. Tried to post reply to Rod Hagen thread and board just kept taking me back to the composition box. Never succeeded in posting a reply.

 

I think you have been on vacation too long in Providence or wherever, sucking too much cock and need to get back to satisfying my needs.

 

Luve!

 

To which Hooboy replies: The issues you describe are settings or problems within your computer and have nothing to do with our software, our servers, my vacation, Provincetown or dick.

 

To which I say: 'Tis not! Goodby, cruel world!

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J:

 

I also use DSL and find this site to be quite fast. There are times when it's a bit slow, but normally it's fast enough that I don't even think about the speed.

 

If I close IE, then I have to log in again. However, if I'm expecting to check back later, I may just minimize that IE window and then go back to it whenever I feel curious. That eliminates the sign-in process for second (or successive) visits.

 

But I never have to reset the settings.

 

I'm curious: do you have some settings on your computer that are denying cookies? Or do you run one of the software packages that prevents them?

 

BG

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Guest Jocoluver

No unusual settings that I know of and I never had these difficulties until about a month ago - you know, when hoo disappeared for weeks and weeks;-)

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Are you having trouble with any other applications or Web sites?

 

If this site was really screwed up, it would be acting badly for everyone. Since I, at least, see it working fine, that lessens the chance that the problems are site-related.

 

While it may seem coincidental to HB's vacation, can you think of anything else that changed on your computer around that time? Did you install any new software or download any new upgrades?

 

Also, what operating system are you running and what version? And what browser do you use?

 

BG

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The problem has to be on your computer and your computer alone. No one else has commented on having these problems, so it's obviously not a site problem, so don't blame Hooboy.

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>No unusual settings that I know of and I never had these

>difficulties until about a month ago - you know, when hoo

>disappeared for weeks and weeks;-)

 

I have had problems with this site with cookies getting corrupted. Everything works just fine for me at the present time. While I know that is small comfort to you, one of the more advanced users here can probably help you get things sorted out.

 

Good luck, and don't depart.

 

--EBG

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Not sure this is the most helpful approach when someone is having problems...

 

The DCForum software has known bugs at any given time. This site is running a version that is not completely up-to-date -- there was a new release last February. That release fixed bugs that at least some people encounter here and some that have been addressed in threads. An example would be the bug that causes users who have a blank in their screen name (like "Boston Guy") to show up as "Guest" when you look to see who's online.

 

I'm not complaining or even suggesting that the latest release be implemented.

 

However, the Web is a complex environment and software that runs just fine in some browser/operating system combinations may not work as well in others. I would be surprised if the DCForum software seriously misbehaved in either IE or Netscape but I wouldn't want to vouch for how it would work in older versions of those two browsers, much less in other browsers.

 

JC might be running an environment that is interacting badly with the site software. If so, is it his fault or the site's fault? I'd suggest that it's nobody's fault and the best thing to do is just see if we can help him find and fix the problem.

 

I think the most likely cause is that something's happened on his local machine that's causing the behavior that he's seeing. When we get a little more info, perhaps we'll be able to figure out what it is.

 

BG

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>Not sure this is the most helpful approach when someone is

>having problems...

 

He was ranting and raving about how HooBoy was causing him all these problems. It is NOT Hoo's doing, and that's what I was saying.

 

Believe me, if this were a sitewide problem, we'd be hearing about it left and right. This is the only complaint that's been raised, ergo, it has to be a problem on his computer.

 

I have no idea what could be the cause. I'd suggest deleting the cookies and logging in again. Beyond that, I can't say anything.

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I could be wrong, but I thought his original post was intended to very tongue-in-cheek.

 

Your suggestion about deleting cookies and trying again is a good one. If he doesn't want to clear all of his cookies, he could just delete the one -- I haven't looked to see if there is more than one -- for this site.

 

It's also worth checking his browser settings and probably clearing his cache.

 

But since it seemed to start suddenly about a month ago, I'm betting that something changed in his environment around that time.

 

BG

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>None of this stuff ever happens to me (except that I can't

>get the emoticons any more), and I access the site on the

>much maligned AOL through a standard telephone line.

 

Hi Charlie,

 

You might try this and see if it works better for you:

 

1. Start AOL and sign in as you normally would.

2. Start Internet Explorer or Netscape and go to this site.

 

You can then use AOL and IE, at the same time. Browse in IE (or Netscape or whatever) and do mail/chat/IM in AOL.

 

Your results will depend on what operating system (a little) and what browser (a lot) you have installed on your machine. If it's IE or Netscape and you're really out of date, consider updating it. That's a free process, is easy and doesn't take long.

 

The browser used by AOL is a subset version of IE. What you get in full IE is better and also faster, even using the same TCP pipe that AOL provides you: IE simply is able to build and format pages faster than the AOL subset-IE browser can. It also supports features not yet supported by AOL and using it gives you the ability to keep your browser up to date, instead of relying on AOL's updates.

 

I've used AOL for years and find it to be a valuable tool, one of many that I use. For browsing, however, I stick to regular IE. It just works better. It also offers a lot more in terms of ease-of-features, most especially in terms of bookmarks.

 

BG

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>I have the EXACT same problems as Joc every time I revisit

>this site (having closed IE).

 

Rod -

 

Several questions:

 

What version of IE are you running? Is it on a Windows OS? Are you running any applications that are designed to affect browsing (i.e., pop-up ad stoppers, cookie managers, etc.)?

 

Next, go to the Tools menu on IE and choose "Internet Options".

 

On the Privacy tab, what settings do you have? Have you set any custom cookie settings?

 

Then, on the General tab, check some general browser settings. Press the "Settings" button to see what you have for Temporary Internet Files. On that dialog, do you have "Automatically" checked for "Check for newer versions of stored pages"? If not, you should probably check that unless you have a very slow connection to the Internet.

 

Then, also on the General tab, use the "Delete Files..." button to clear your temporary files.

 

Next, shut down Internet Explorer and start the Windows Explorer. (If you or anyone else trying this is using another browser or AOL to access this site, shut down those tools before proceeding. It doesn't hurt anything to leave them open, but closing them makes the step below a little surer.)

 

Check your cookies to see if you have more than one from this site. If you're running Windows 98, you'll probably find the cookies in the C:\WINDOWS\COOKIES directory. If XP, look in C:\DOCUMENTS AND SETTINGS\MYNAME\COOKIES, where MYNAME is the name you logged into XP with.

 

The cookies for this site have a name that is in the format NAME@WWW.MALE4MALESCORTS[NN].TXT, where NAME is probably ANYUSER on 98 and your login name on XP and NN is an integer. So, if you're running XP and you logged into your machine as Rod, you'll find one or more cookies in the C:\DOCUMENTS AND SETTINGS\ROD\COOKIES directory with names like

 

ROD@WWW.MALE4MALESCORTS[1].TXT

ROD@WWW.MALE4MALESCORTS[2].TXT

 

etc.

 

I'm hoping you'll find more than one because I think that may be related to the behavior you're seeing.

 

Try deleting all of the cookies for this site. You could delete all of your cookies for all of the sites you visit, but I personally don't like to do that because I then have to re-enter data on other sites I visit frequently. So just delete the ones you find for this site.

 

Start your browser again (and log into AOL or whatever ISP you use) and go to M4M. You'll have to sign in and set your settings. Once you do that, verify that the settings seem correct. Then close the browser window. Open a new one and go back to M4M. Log in -- yes, you have to do that every time-- and see if your options have stayed the way you want them.

 

Let me know what you find.

 

BG

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Guest Kalifornia

Really Jock? I never habe problems with the site even though I'm sure many out there wish I did.

 

What type of computer do you use? Maybe I'm totally wrong though Rod mentioned he had like problems, are you guys using MACS? Not that should be a problem yet there might be a glitch somewhere related to the MAC OS.

 

Mark -Kalifornia

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Guest curious2000

I have always had problems #1 thru 5 and have just sort of gotten used to it and always have to sign in, re sort,and wait for options to be reset ever time I sign on. I wonder if it is due to the fact I use a Macintosh, no windows, and IE 5.0? it remembers my options when I use Netscape. Might be a browser problem?

 

do other Mac users or non- p.c.with windows users experience these issues?

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Complaint #1 is intentional. "Remembering" logins was turned off on purpose.

 

The rest is environmental.

 

As for the board software being out of date, that's because Daddy has altered the software to meet the needs of this site. (Not requiring names, for example.) Those changes need to be re-applied and re-tested every time the board software is updated. It's time consuming so he may from time to time skip an update if nothing in the update list solves a problem we've been having.

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>I've used AOL for years and find it to be a valuable tool

 

In what way? Maybe I'll keep it. After Hooboy advised escorts to ditch AOL for work email, I switched to hotmail & it's been fine (and I've always used IE as my browser.) AOL will not let me drop their service, tho. They are so aggressive! I called to cancel & this desperate sounding girl on the other end of the line pleaded with me to reconsider and keep it for free for 3 more months. I was like, "But I really don't need it." But she persisted & she sounded like she was gonna lose her job (or her life) if I didn't agree. The 3 months ended a few days ago, and when I called to cancel again, I went through the same thing again, this time with a very aggressive guy. So now I have it for 2 more months for free...but I really don't think I have any use for it.

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In what way is AOL useful for me?

 

OK, in no particular order:

 

1. My primary personal email address is an aol address. I've had it for years and years and years and virtually everyone I know has it. I get email occasionally from people I haven't heard from in ages, email that I'd lose if I changed email addresses, since I'd never remember everyone if I were to send out a change of address notice.

 

2. I use a several alternate email addresses, for different purposes. AOL allows me to easily keep those separate but also allows me to monitor them and, at a glance, see my email status for all of them at once.

 

3. I travel extensively, primarily in North America but also elsewhere. I can't remember the last time I was someplace where AOL didn't have an easily-accessible number.

 

4. I use DSL at home and a high-speed link in the office and connect to AOL through TCP/IP. On the road, I do the reverse and it's a no-brainer.

 

5. On my "client" screen name, I have found AOL an easy place to locate escorts in whatever city I'm located. AOL's chatrooms are great for this. But they're also fun for simply finding out what's going on in a city, especially if you don't know what the gay scene is like or haven't been there before. I've met local guys online through the various M4M chatrooms and then gone out with them for drinks or whatever. So AOL can be an easy entrance into a local gay scene, especially in smaller towns.

 

6. I was recently in a small city in a western state, a city so small that there wasn't even an M4M room for it. In fact, the M4M room for the state wasn't even full. :-) But, using the Member Directory, I quickly located a gay guy online who was local to the area I was in. I IM'd him and asked if he could give me a few hints about the area. He was very nice and we chatted for probably 30 minutes and I ended up having a better time than I might have had I not been armed with that info.

 

7. Many of my friends and colleagues use AOL and have added me to their buddy lists. Since I travel so much, they use the buddy lists to find me when I'm online and we communicate a lot that way. My parents are able to verify that I haven't died in a plane crash and my friends invite me for dinner. So it's an online community for me.

 

8. I find AOL's weather forecasts to be reasonably accurate and I am constantly checking the forecast for places where I'm going to be. On AOL. that's about a 2-step process, so it's fast and easy.

 

9. If I have a few minutes, I might bring up the NY TImes or the Boston Globe to check the headlines. But, if have only a minute or two, I'm just as likely to use AOL's Top News dialog.

 

 

Those are the things that come to mind right now. AOL is not my primary ISP at home -- Verizon is. It's not our primary ISP (obviously) at work. But it works well for me as my ISP while travelng, even abroad. In fact, Ive gotten higher-speed dial-up connections in Europe than I sometimes get in the US.

 

I don't use AOL for browsing, except occasionally if I'm just clicking a link in an email; I use IE for most browsing instead.

 

I could do all of these things with other tools (except search the member directory and browse and enter AOL chat rooms). But that's not the point for me. AOL brings together a collection of tools that work for me. I'm not emotionally connected or disconnected to it. It just works for me, at home and on the road.

 

People make fun of AOL all the time. To me, that's akin to ridiculing someone because they use Word instead of WordPerfect or Excel instead of Quattro Pro. It's a just a tool. If it works for you, fine. If it doesn't, choose another tool.

 

In your case, it sounds like you don't use AOL in regards to your escort services, which is interesting to me, but you're a bright guy and I'm confident that you choose not to use AOL for reasons that make sense to you.

 

If I were an escort, I'd probably keep an AOL screen name logged on in the M4M room of the city where I worked 24/7. But I've never been on that side of the table and perhaps I'm just ignorant about marketing oneself as an escort.

 

Sorry this got so long. :-)

 

BG

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Guest Thunderbuns

>I called to cancel & this desperate sounding

>girl on the other end of the line pleaded with me to

>reconsider and keep it for free for 3 more months.

 

>The 3 months ended a few days ago, and when I

>called to cancel again, I went through the same thing again,

>this time with a very aggressive guy.

 

Did he sound cute? You should have told him you would keep it for the two additional months if he let you blow him.

 

>So now I have it for 2 more months for free...but I really don't >think I have any use for it.

 

No wonder AOL Time Warner is losing monet hand over fist!

 

Thunderbuns

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>In your case, it sounds like you don't use AOL in regards to

>your escort services, which is interesting to me, but you're

>a bright guy and I'm confident that you choose not to use

>AOL for reasons that make sense to you.

>

>If I were an escort, I'd probably keep an AOL screen name

>logged on in the M4M room of the city where I worked 24/7.

>But I've never been on that side of the table and perhaps

>I'm just ignorant about marketing oneself as an escort.

 

I used to try that when I started out but all I ever got, for the most part, were people who wanted to jack off to my pics/IM, or who'd send me their "hot" pics in an attempt to get a freebie, or just liars/freaks. Major time-waster...unless it was just me. Maybe I had bad AOL aura. :p

 

If any escorts are reading this...do you get work from AOL?

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Guest Jocoluver

I am shocked! SHOCKED!! to open this thread and find this torrent of replies!!

 

I certainly hoped that my posting showed some tongue in cheek (ooooh, I like that!). The gliches are irritating but --

 

Hooboy is the founding father George Washington of my m4m escort review nation and I would never want to chop him down!! (Ashcroft and current POTUS #43 - another story). The little dig about P'town was intended to be a little dig; I was the one who emailed him about not knowing in which state P'town existed. My computer skills aren't much better than my geography. And he does get more cock than I do (bitch!)

 

Thanks for all the suggestions. I have printed them and will work through them.

 

I am using Macintosh iMac using OS 9.2 and MS Internet Explorer (for Mac 5.1.2). I never use AOL here. My "problems" occur only on this site and not others and my cookies are all enabled every where, have been and still are, same preference settings before and after these irritants appeared. There is something peculiar here.

 

I'll chug through the suggestions. I could no more give up hooboy and his website than I could give up my other addickshuns!:p

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Guest gentle guy

>I am shocked! SHOCKED!! to open this thread and find this

>torrent of replies!!

>

>I certainly hoped that my posting showed some tongue in

>cheek (ooooh, I like that!). The gliches are irritating but

>

>I'll chug through the suggestions. I could no more give up

>hooboy and his website than I could give up my other

>addickshuns!:p

 

Great response! :+

 

I, too, have occasional problems with this site that I have with no other. A friend once proposed some theory that included the phrase "corrupted cookies." Usually signing off AOL, cleaning out the cache, and returning solves any problem.

 

By the way, AOL has been fine for me, except for the once-weekly unwanted IM ("Hi, I'm Bambi, want to see nude pictures of me?"--NOT--besides, I've seen naked deer before...) and the periodic barrages of irritating SPAM. For the record, I am not interested in sex with women, bestiality, mortgages, loans, or internet gambling. I do not need viagra, and I am quite satisfied with my penis size. }>

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