Client / escort etiquette

[alanalt]

And my point is that 'you're preaching to the choir here', meaning that most people who take the time to visit this forum and read these threads aren't as likely to hold the views on escorting, or exhibit the forms of behaviour toward escorts, you find objectionable, and if they (by chance) do, this thread isn't likely to change their ways!

 

Alan

[Michael Vincenzo]

And my point is that 'you're preaching to the choir here', meaning that most people who take the time to visit this forum and read these threads aren't as likely to hold the views on escorting, or exhibit the forms of behaviour toward escorts, you find objectionable, and if they (by chance) do, this thread isn't likely to change their ways!

 

Alan

 

Geeez! I'm trying to keep things optimistic and on a positive note, but I do hear what you're saying.

 

I would like to clarify that this thread is good dialogue for both clients and escorts to read and participate in. I can attest that there are both clients and escorts alike, who participate in these forums, that don't exhibit some of the good etiquette that this thread has discussed.

 

We've come so far from the hustlers who stand on the corner (although there are a few fantasies about that swimming in my head) and end up stealing your wallet (not so many fantasies about the latter). Maybe we can continue improving?

[rvwnsd]

...the hustlers who stand on the corner (although there are a few fantasies about that swimming in my head) and end up stealing your wallet (not so many fantasies about the latter)...

 

I'll tell you what, Michael, when you get out here to San Diego you can stand on my corner and we'll "meet." I'll even put your fee in a special wallet and when our session is over you can "steal it."

 

That actually sounds kinda hot, doesn't it?

[SmallTownJohn]

My comment is not only have cancellation & no-shows increased in '09, but it's the lengths that clients go to spin tales and create situations only to cancel/no show appointments. So elaborate! There's a def. active troll element working online with tons of free time to devise & concoct.

[Guest zipperzone]

 

Clock watching is when the escort keeps looking at the clock wishing the time was up and not when an escort politely reminds the client that the agreed upon time is up; how unfair would you consider that definition if you were the next client that the escort was late getting to?

 

If the escort was seeing so many clients that he had to keep on time like a bus schedule, it would be the last frickin time he would ever get my business.

[Kevin Slater]

Clock watching is when the escort keeps looking at the clock wishing the time was up and not when an escort politely reminds the client that the agreed upon time is up; how unfair would you consider that definition if you were the next client that the escort was late getting to?

 

If the escort was seeing so many clients that he had to keep on time like a bus schedule, it would be the last frickin time he would ever get my business.

 

It only takes two clients in one day to come up with this scenario; it's hard to begrudge him that. But it sounds like he's not hurting for your biz in the first place.

 

Kevin Slater

[OceanTraveller]

I had someone here weekend before last that I wished had cancelled on me for the weekend . I knew that something was wrong when I picked him up and he said that he was tired . He was aloof and not present the whole weekend. How many escorts have you had to ask if we were going to have foreplay . The crowning touch was spending 45 minutes at 10:30pm in my driveway talking to his boyfriend that he had had a fight with . He had already been back and forth text messaging while I made the dinner . He was selfish , self centered and inconsiderate and I told him so . He offered me a free night but I have to fly to him I came extremely close in packing his things and taking him to a hotel . He had already been paid so he had his fee and I got experience as JT puts it because I did not get what I wanted !!!

[mmk123]

Ocean, you definitely should send a review on this. If this happened to you then it could happen to other clients as well.

[JT Brooklyn]

No Name Experience!

 

I had someone here weekend before last that I wished had cancelled on me for the weekend . I knew that something was wrong when I picked him up and he said that he was tired . He was aloof and not present the whole weekend. How many escorts have you had to ask if we were going to have foreplay . The crowning touch was spending 45 minutes at 10:30pm in my driveway talking to his boyfriend that he had had a fight with . He had already been back and forth text messaging while I made the dinner . He was selfish , self centered and inconsiderate and I told him so . He offered me a free night but I have to fly to him I came extremely close in packing his things and taking him to a hotel . He had already been paid so he had his fee and I got experience as JT puts it because I did not get what I wanted !!!

 

Ocean... don't get me wrong BUT without a Name in at least a REVIEW this "Experience", that should be known by future Guys who hook up with him isn't gonna do anyone any good.

 

I would hate to read someone got Burned by a "Working Guy" that I didn't relay a bad experience about!

 

P.S. When a guy is getting Paid.."Your the Boyfriend Dude"! He shouldn't have Boyfriend DRAMA!

[OceanTraveller]

I will see JT . I had told the person after he left that I would write a review and that he could respond . He made me cry twice during that weekend . He emailed me an email that was threatening when I mentioned the review . You know who it is Jt . I had gifts for this person on the bed when he arrived and they were gifts that I knew that he liked . I wrote a nice note to him as well and he threw it on the bed . He was totally involved in the situation with his BF and I was secondary the whole weekend . He told me at dinner that it was bad timing . The bad timing was not my fault . I had booked another weekend but he cancelled it and so I picked this weekend which I did not really prefer . It's this kind of thing that sours people on seeing anyone . I'm a good man and I always try my best to treat people with respect and honor and to enjoy the time with them . I looked forward to this weekend and I was very much disappointed and let down .

[+ purplekow]

If an escort makes you cry and it isn't a cry of delight, you gotta get that dude out of there. While there are always two sides to a story, this one seems to have one side, in which he is an insufferable boorish jerk that shouldn't be in any service industry including 7 11 counterman and the other side in which you bent overfbackwards, again not it a good way, and the guy was still an insufferable and boorish jerk. No matter how hot the man, no one is worth that much drama. Blast this guys ass in a review and let him respond, because it doesn't sound like there was too much in the way of ass blasting or responding on what I am sure was a pretty expensive weekend.

[OceanTraveller]

I always treated this man with respect and friendship . I did try to kiss him twice and he was on my sofa and resting on my bed and he said that my fee did not pay for me to be able to use him like that and I was very sorry because I did not know that I was out of line . He could have told me in a nice way . there are 2 sides to a story but I am wondering what he would say that I did wrong because I tried my best to make him comfortable and feel welcomed .

[Bart]

Ocean I have never heard of a client having more issues or bad luck with escorts than you. The following is not trashing but maybe you should let us pick you next hook up. I actually feel awful for you. This has to be the third or fourth bad overnight experience for you that you have talked about on this board. Seriously if you need help picking a quality escort why not run it by a few of us here first, man that is a lot of wasted money.

[Bart]

There is so much in this thread difficult to respond to it all. Enough for several threads.

 

I see no problems with Michael openning the dialog because there are plenty of lurkers who do not post who maybe newbies to hiring and looking for information. There are often complaints why escorts wont do this or that, well discussions like this help clients understand why escorts dont jump at every request or ask questions or refuse a client based upon prior experiences like this. It never hurts to see where an escort is coming from. A series of cancellations or fake calls may change how an escort operates his business and even though most of us on here are reputable clients, the escort does not know us from adam so he may put up certain rules or restrictions for how he handles different situations. Good luck Michael with your future trips with less hassles.

 

As to the clock watching, this too has been discussed and I find it all rather absurd. If you have booked an appointment for an hour well most spots have clocks or your cell phone, I find it rude to stay over your time period. Even if you are the one late staying later without asking, naughty boy. I usually book 2-3 hour appts and I am always making sure on the time. Only once have I ever stayed over my time in 6 years and both guys laughed at me as I flew around the room realizing I was over by 10 min. Anyway the point is be respectful and you will usually receive in kind.

 

Zip, sometimes we agree and often we dont, this one we dont, but just my opinion. If you think an escort, especially a travelling one is taking only your 1 hour call your crazy. We as clients should only be concerned if we received what we asked for. If we expect exclusivity than we had better be prepared to pay for it, book him for the day and you dont have an issue.

[JT Brooklyn]

Someone we ALL know!

 

I will see JT . I had told the person after he left that I would write a review and that he could respond . He made me cry twice during that weekend . He emailed me an email that was threatening when I mentioned the review . You know who it is Jt . I had gifts for this person on the bed when he arrived and they were gifts that I knew that he liked . I wrote a nice note to him as well and he threw it on the bed . He was totally involved in the situation with his BF and I was secondary the whole weekend . He told me at dinner that it was bad timing . The bad timing was not my fault . I had booked another weekend but he cancelled it and so I picked this weekend which I did not really prefer . It's this kind of thing that sours people on seeing anyone . I'm a good man and I always try my best to treat people with respect and honor and to enjoy the time with them . I looked forward to this weekend and I was very much disappointed and let down .

 

Ocean...Threatened You! I would damn well Write a Review with this character's NAME IN CAPITAL LETTERS! His Time with you was no more than a Bad Street Hustle at best!

 

IF I do know this "Working Guy" then so do MANY others! Don't let this situation go, or it will Bug You for a long time to come. You definitely need "Closure" on this my friend!

 

P.S. His MISTAKE putting THREATS in emails! Hang on to it!

[Okliehomo]

Ok. Ok. I'll tell.... a little........

 

Never my intention to fan the flames (fuck off)... but this is just TOO much.

 

Ocean, he made you cry twice and then threatened you in an email??? Seriously? And he wouldn't let you even kiss him because he was in a spat with his boyfriend? What exactly are you afraid of losing here? A friend? If you thought he was your friend because of all the special times in the past and yet he can turn around and treat you like complete shit..... so, one wonders.... how is he with complete strangers?? Scares me. Or maybe he was just so used to you and the $$$$$ that he felt like he could do whatever he wanted to do and still be on the payroll. Either way, it sucks hind tit and you need to name him and move on..... like to Kristian!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

About naming names.... living in a glass house myself......I have been accused in the past of being less than forthcoming about bad experiences.... that I never submit a bad review... while I have said plenty over the years about guys I didn't enjoy on the MC ....and have hinted at some others. So, tonight, in the interest of honesty and because I am so fucking close to being done, publicly, here are a few names....

 

Dave Angelo.... Gorgeous man and scaldingly, shockingly perfect ass... the only man that I was ever really afraid of.... only man that I thought was going to hit me... because I was a "faggot" and the meter had run out...

 

Aiden Shaw.... total rip off. Total contempt for his clients and is truly crazy.

 

Jay Anthony..... the Best Awful... not a better body in the world and sexy as Hell.... but a very disappointing escort.... as most straight guys are.... yeah, I guess, he could get into it with a Ricky Martin or someone as "hot" as he really, really is...... but not us Everyday Homos... made me feel terrible and at the end of the visit, he actually asked me, "Did I do something to offend you??" And being the get along guy ( read that: "pussy" .... gag) that I am... I didn't tell him how much his attitude and indifference and obvious lack of attraction ruined it for me...

 

Why I am always hesitant to post such negative stuff is because I usually have had warning signs...... that I chose to ignore. (read that: "bored, dumb ass before David").... as I did with each of the above mentioned...

 

Makes it hard to assign blame in my cases..... but Ocean, in your case, you had met the guy before. You did everything right and still got the wrong result, bud. That's on him... not you.

 

Repeat guys for me have to be very, very special....

 

Marco Feretti (5 times).... hairy Argentine ass and gorgeous face....... and still hope to make it 6.. or more..

Jim Slade. (6)... deep sigh. Movie star. Two nights and non stop....

Ty...... (3) well.. so special..... rainy Labor Day weekend ..... in bed watching tennis and his butt ..... relentless.

Arpad... (2) clean as a whistle, smells like no one else and maybe the perfect man..

Bill/Portland. (2).... sexy, sexy,sexy.... still not over that one.

Kent Larson... (6).... better than he looked for Lucas and tastier.... knew exactly what I liked.......... his ass.

Andrew Justice.... (4)... deeper sigh...... Movie star with a huge dick, perfect ass and oh so willing to share them both. with everyone in the room...... all sex all the time.

Kristian (3) about to be 4......... genuinely sweet, handsome as Hell, hung,hung, hung, with a gifted and a very pretty ass.. and the ability to keep up sexually with....

David... (9).... deepest sigh of all.... goes above and beyond... just fucking gets me.... and ALL of my guests.......... repeatedly........ and apparently, many of you out there as well.... the best.

 

There you have it. Ocean.... much love,

 

Okie

[Guest greatness]

I am sorry to hear that. He should not have threatened you. Please write a review.

 

I will see JT . I had told the person after he left that I would write a review and that he could respond . He made me cry twice during that weekend . He emailed me an email that was threatening when I mentioned the review . You know who it is Jt . I had gifts for this person on the bed when he arrived and they were gifts that I knew that he liked . I wrote a nice note to him as well and he threw it on the bed . He was totally involved in the situation with his BF and I was secondary the whole weekend . He told me at dinner that it was bad timing . The bad timing was not my fault . I had booked another weekend but he cancelled it and so I picked this weekend which I did not really prefer . It's this kind of thing that sours people on seeing anyone . I'm a good man and I always try my best to treat people with respect and honor and to enjoy the time with them . I looked forward to this weekend and I was very much disappointed and let down .

[Guest greatness]

hmm

 

I think I am similar to Ocean for having issues or bad luck. I don't usually talk about it. This site helps a lot now.

 

 

Ocean I have never heard of a client having more issues or bad luck with escorts than you. The following is not trashing but maybe you should let us pick you next hook up. I actually feel awful for you. This has to be the third or fourth bad overnight experience for you that you have talked about on this board. Seriously if you need help picking a quality escort why not run it by a few of us here first, man that is a lot of wasted money.

[Edward]

Late escorts

 

How do I tell my favorite escort that being always late is annoying? He always calls and says he is on his way. Then takes an extra hour to get there. These are usually overnight appointments.

[jackcali]

How about telling him just like that the next time you hire him? "Look, xxx, you're my favorite escort and I love hiring you, but I have to tell you that your being an hour late all the time is annoying to me. I know you call ahead and warn me, and I appreciate your doing that, but being late still detracts from an otherwise terrific experience. Please try not to be late this time."

 

It's honest, it's not provocative or threatening or bitchy, but he'll hear that a regular client has an issue with him, which he'll either address or ignore at the peril of not being your favorite escort for much longer. If he's a professional and he appreciates your business, he will try to do better or he will ask that you regularly start later and offer you something in exchange for that accommodation.