Client / escort etiquette

[Michael Vincenzo]

I know that this topic comes up once in a while, but it is certainly worth a discussion on a regular basis. When it comes to professional escorts, we show up on time, call if we're late, keep our commitments, and perform to the best of our ability. When it comes to good clients, they become familiar with general codes of conduct in communicating with escorts, keep scheduled appointment or call if unable to, and generally school themselves with the wealth of information about hiring working boys before taking the plunge. I know this industry can be a little dicey and it probably has something to do with how some people operate when it comes to sex on the brain.

 

All of that being said, I just want to expose a few incidences that I have experienced so that potential clients understand my line of questioning or communication in the "pre-meeting" phase. I had someone text me at 3:00am last night and wanted to come over. I called to confirm and provided my hotel information and was told he would be there in 15 minutes. One hour later I called again and asked where he was and I was told that I gave him the wrong address (I verified that I texted him the correct info). He assured me he was on his way. One hour later from that point he was still not there.

 

Tonight I received a text from someone detailing what their preferences were. I called and we confirmed an appointment as an out call to begin in 30 minutes. I received a text (on the cab ride there) that the client's roommate came home and he wished that he called me earlier today.

 

The only reason that I am posting this is that I want men who hire to understand the bullshit that working guys have to put up with on a regular basis. When dick is on the brain, there are people who forget any manners that they might normally have and it creates a challenge for working guys to carry on without a harsher screening process. In the event that you contact a professional escort, with a good reputation, and encounter a business-like demeanor, please understand that it is difficult to always expect people to have some common sense manners; some things need to be discussed up front in a less than sexy tone.

 

I try to keep things simple and make things easy for guys who may be new to this, but it is becoming increasingly more difficult. In the event that anyone ever experiences a less than warm and fuzzy first impression from an escort, please bear with us working guys and know that we put up with some guys that view us as less than important and only there to appease their momentary notion of having a cock in their mouth. Sex and money seem to always have strange effects on how people compose themselves.

 

On the other hand (trying not to be too pessimistic here), I certainly appreciate clients who know how to communicate effectively, are reliable towards commitments, treat working guys politely, and do not send endless text messages.

 

O.k., I think I've made more posts this weekend than I have in the past year. I think my social life has been deduced to online forums. I miss home and my dogs! hee hee!

[jeepman]

Game Players

 

Unfortunately, there are game players out there and I am sure it tough to recognize those from the clients who are truely sincere. Not sure that there's any real well to tell them apart from the initial contacts but I can't imagine you being anything but warm and fuzzy; and, oh by the way, hot as hell. Despite the bullshit you discussed, I do hope you enjoyed your stay in Boston; this is one client that was a very happy camper that I was able to see you while you were in town. Safe travels back home guy.

[Guest zipperzone]

In all fairness, any escort who accepts a call at 3 in the morning is either dumb, broke, desperate or greedy.

 

And as for the guy whose roomie just came home - it is entirely possible his reason was legit and what other alternative did he have?

[Kevin Slater]

In all fairness, any escort who accepts a call at 3 in the morning is either dumb, broke, desperate or greedy.

 

Excuse me? Would you say the same of a locksmith who gets you into your home at 3 am? Whatever the particular dynamics of your life, those same constraints may not apply to others.

 

Kevin Slater

[josephga]

I had a guy call Saturday afternoon too book a massage for 4:30 on Sunday afternoon. We talked I gave him the address he said he would map quest it too make sure that its not to far. he told me to go a head and put him down for 4:30 sunday if it was too far he would call in the next 10 minutes to cancel.. He didn't call so sunday afternoon 4:30 comes around no show. I called at 5.00 got voice mail. I called at 5:30 left a message telling him that he's banned from my studio.. And whats the deal with people calling from numbers you can't ever call back too? twice last week a guy gave me a number on my voice mail that when I called i get a message saying this number can't accept calls at this time.

[+ purplekow]

He had the alternative of making good on the appointment. He could have done an in call. He is an adult, how about him being responsible for his actions? Tell the roommate he has someone coming over. If it is his lover, how about telling the lover, I need some on the side. A good excuse is still an excuse.

[dcguy20]

Michael, sorry that happened to you, but unfortunately this situation goes both ways. I've had 3 no-shows within the last 12 months. No phone call, no nothing. One was from a guy I had seen previously.

[Michael Vincenzo]

In all fairness, any escort who accepts a call at 3 in the morning is either dumb, broke, desperate or greedy.

 

And as for the guy whose roomie just came home - it is entirely possible his reason was legit and what other alternative did he have?

 

Wow! What a presumptuous and impolite response! It would not be fair to say that I am dumb, broke, desperate, or greedy. I'm a big boy, though, and can roll with the punches.

 

Because I work for myself, I decide how I conduct business and at what hours. When I am on a business trip, I have financial goals to consider and plan my day according to appointments booked in advance. When I have nothing on the books, I take a long afternoon nap and make myself available for late evening appointments.

 

I understand your judgment on what type of client might call at that hour, but it doesn't always turn out to be someone who is cracked out or drunk. People tend to get horny at all hours of the day (I've even hosted 6:30am appointments for guys who wake up early).

 

The option for this "caller" was to step out onto the sidewalk and pay my cab fare. His lack of planning should not have been my burden to bear, especially when I was more than accommodating.

[Michael Vincenzo]

Michael, sorry that happened to you, but unfortunately this situation goes both ways. I've had 3 no-shows within the last 12 months. No phone call, no nothing. One was from a guy I had seen previously.

 

I do understand that this works both ways and I, too, am sorry that you had to experience someone with no consideration for your schedule. It's good to discuss this topic so that we all can understand both sides of the coin.

[mmk123]

Michael,

I always wondered when I would see on escort profiles the time's that they are available and it would show them to be available 24 hours if they truly are available 24 hours or not. It is nice to know if you would ever come to Pittsburgh (hint, hint) that I could call you at any time a day (a 3 am visit from you would be hot).

[Romann]

Such requests that go into the wee hours of the morning should be made in advance so that they can be planned and everyone shows up bright and cheery for a fun and exciting time.

 

Michael,

I always wondered when I would see on escort profiles the time's that they are available and it would show them to be available 24 hours if they truly are available 24 hours or not. It is nice to know if you would ever come to Pittsburgh (hint, hint) that I could call you at any time a day (a 3 am visit from you would be hot).

[buckguy]

Early am calls and no show folks

 

I usually don't do "fan" posts, but Micheal is a professional in the best senses of the word. At first thought, I guess I'd wonder about the reliability (and dangerousness) of clients who want a 3:00am incall. It's too close to when the bars close and too long before or after a shift change, although maybe surgical residents keep those hours. OTOH, the number of guys on Manhunt seems to peak sometime after midnight, which means the actual hook-ups happen a bit later and not everyone online seems to fit a tweaked out profile 9although I haven't actually tested that hypothesis). I suspect that may be why I received a call from an escort a couple years ago around 12:30 am on a weeknight (not a biggy for me). I knew it was him because I'd seen him a few days before in DC. As far as I could tell from our conversation (it had been a long appt) and his ad, he was either out of town or off the clock. He'd obviously hit my number by mistake and it sounded like he was looking for a trick rather than a client. And as it turns out, this guy (no longer in the biz) and I have become friends and I'm enough of a friend never to mention the incident.

[Guest RianB]

In all fairness, any escort who accepts a call at 3 in the morning is either dumb, broke, desperate or greedy.

 

Ha...and where the hell do you come off from? I've accepted appts after 3 on weekends, nothing wrong with that. Whats the difference between the good-time guy going home with a random guy from the club and an escort accepting a call after 3? Cause he's getting paid for it? You are amazing...

 

I will say though after 3:30...majority of the calls arent worth taking (maybe except for a holiday) but even if we took a call at 4 in the morning, whats it matter to you? You do realize that you've also said that any client who calls an ecort at 3 am is dumb and desperate too?

 

And as for the guy whose roomie just came home - it is entirely possible his reason was legit and what other alternative did he have?

 

I find that hard to believe. Most people with roommates realize whether their roommate will be home that night or not. He was a late night time-waster, and his alternative could have been to get a room for an extra $40. Perhaps Micheal would have even offered to take that out of his fee...

[Guest RianB]

Such requests that go into the wee hours of the morning should be made in advance so that they can be planned and everyone shows up bright and cheery for a fun and exciting time.

 

Romann, as a fellow working guy I must ask you, What are you on! LOL. An advanced appt for stupid o'clock? I did it once...and wont be staying up for nothing again! Anyone who calls at wee o'clock is either 1) just getting out the bars or 2) high on coke or 3) works very early in the morning and wants to play prior to going to work. 4) has insomnia LOL

 

The only time I'd take such a late call is the spur of the moment! They always show up. Of course on Fridays and Saturdays Im up to 4 or 5 am anyway (courtesy of the former late-night days in Miami) so a call that late doesnt bother me. But its so much easier to tell if they're just drunk or serious....

[lookin4hotties]

re: Client etiquette

 

It has to just suck that some clients flake after confirming.

 

I wonder if this has been worse for most escorts when doing

outalls or incalls....either way it must get VERY annoying.

 

As far as endless text messages go, as a client I never

text unless I'm telling them I'm on my way (if I'm coming

in out-of-state by car or plane) possibly to reconfirm with

a short "see you tonite at ___." Clients that send endless

text and email messages must be a total pain in the @ss.

 

Lookin4hotties

[josephga]

I'm sick of no shows I don't get them often but I had 2 this week. I'm going to start a no show page on my site with the names and phone numbers of no shows if they want their number removed they can pay for the massage they didn't bother showing up for..

[Guest Adrian Hart]

I completely empathize with where you are coming from which is why years ago I came to the conclusion that anyone calling past midnight is not usually a legitimate nor respectful type of client. The majority of "good" clients book ahead of time and call during respectable hours in my experience. Those that do not usually look at escorts as sex machines ready to be turned on at any hour of the day for a quick buck. Although some escorts function that way, most of the reputable ones do not. I realize you risk losing a certain amount of income by not accepting calls past a certain hour but consider the types of people that choose to do so and if you are willing to make that personal sacrifice to those personality types. I realize I am generalizing a bit and that some people have extenuating circumstances that inhibit their ability to call at a respectable time however thats not the norm and those types are far and few between. Furthermore if you do take these calls at such late hours its probably best to assume they may not show up as they may be inebriated, on some sort of drug or just getting off at the sound of your voice. If they do show up and they are decent then thats just an added bonus.

 

Just my opinion, Adrian Hart

[Romann]

KYC (know your client)

 

What am I on? Well, good sleep and advanced planning are key.

 

Oh hold up there working buddy... I didn't say that I take such from just anyone. Just like you and I along with many escorts, our profession is not typical and doesn't have the standard 9-5 hours that most people do and the same applies to some clients. The times that I have accepted appointments in the wee hours of morning, they're from regular clients of mine who have special needs due to their jobs such as lawyers, doctors, nurses and pilots to name just a few. Advanced notice allows me the opportunity plan ahead, have a restful nap in the afternoon and early evening hours. I don't do it often but for clients who I see on a regular basis and have professions that are not typical of most working people, I do try my best to be there for them even if it's for getting together for some fun, coffee and breakfast afterwards.

 

KYC (know your client) is key and make decisions based on that. I've never had an issue with my late night gentleman callers showing up drunk, high or whatever else has been mentioned by previous posters because like myself, not everyone has the typical profession and allowances can be made for those select clients. But, that's just me...

 

I was just speaking with a dear client of mine earlier this morning about some of the late night calls that I have been receiving here in Vegas and he brought up a very good point. Considerations should be made for select cities because like NYC which has been coined as the place that never sleeps, such late calls here in Vegas and other cities are common. That said, it changed my view on the calls that were ringing on my phone at 2 and 3 in the morning. I guess it's all how you approach the situation. For that, I'm very thankful of the conversation I had with him today.

 

I will leave it at that as I would hate for someone to think that I'm "self promoting" which I have been accused of before.

 

 

 

Romann, as a fellow working guy I must ask you, What are you on! LOL. An advanced appt for stupid o'clock? I did it once...and wont be staying up for nothing again! Anyone who calls at wee o'clock is either 1) just getting out the bars or 2) high on coke or 3) works very early in the morning and wants to play prior to going to work. 4) has insomnia LOL

 

The only time I'd take such a late call is the spur of the moment! They always show up. Of course on Fridays and Saturdays Im up to 4 or 5 am anyway (courtesy of the former late-night days in Miami) so a call that late doesnt bother me. But its so much easier to tell if they're just drunk or serious....

[alanalt]

Not really sure of the point to this discussion. As has been pointed out, there are many cases where escorts cancel inconveniently (with or without notice) to clients as well as vice-versa.

 

Yes, there are some flaky/malicious people out there, some of them are clients/potential clients and some of them are escorts. Sometimes, (I say optimistically ) it's a case where someone is engaging in atypical behaviour or is having an 'off-day' while others simply seem to do it because they can and they get their jollies from it. In either case, I very much doubt any of them are going to change their ways as a result of this thread...

 

Alan

[JT Brooklyn]

The Price of Doing Business in the "Working Guy" World!

 

Not really sure of the point to this discussion. As has been pointed out, there are many cases where escorts cancel inconveniently (with or without notice) to clients as well as vice-versa.

 

Yes, there are some flaky/malicious people out there, some of them are clients/potential clients and some of them are escorts. Sometimes, (I say optimistically ) it's a case where someone is engaging in atypical behaviour or is having an 'off-day' while others simply seem to do it because they can and they get their jollies from it. In either case, I very much doubt any of them are going to change their ways as a result of this thread...

 

Alan

Totally Agree with Alanalt! "The Price of doing Business"!

 

It's called "Cancellations" from BOTH sides! It ain't ever gonna change!

[josephga]

Totally Agree with Alanalt! "The Price of doing Business"!

 

It's called "Cancellations" from BOTH sides! It ain't ever gonna change!

 

you both are right but it sometimes feels good too vent.

[JT Brooklyn]

you both are right but it sometimes feels good too vent.[/quote

 

Damn Good!

[+ Travis69]

In Washington, DC some escorts/masseurs got together and created a blog to list no-show or problem clients. It's address was listed with the escort ads. According to escorts/masseurs it quickly created manners in some who were calling. Didn't stop no-shows completely but did help.

[Kevin Slater]

In Washington, DC some escorts/masseurs got together and created a blog to list no-show or problem clients. It's address was listed with the escort ads. According to escorts/masseurs it quickly created manners in some who were calling. Didn't stop no-shows completely but did help.

 

I think its title (perhaps even URL) was Don't Fuck With Us. It's a neat idea, but the industry is so fragmented that I don't think it would work. The first disreputable escort to put his best client on the list has pretty well guaranteed himself a lock on that guy's business. And to be honest, I wonder if the conflict doesn't often arise from the escort side, whether he's aware of it or not. I guess I would only trust the list if there were strict vetting of which working guys could post to it.

 

Kevin Slater

[Michael Vincenzo]

Not really sure of the point to this discussion. As has been pointed out, there are many cases where escorts cancel inconveniently (with or without notice) to clients as well as vice-versa.

 

The point that I was trying to make with this discussion was simply an understanding of experiences on both sides of the fence. I sometimes have potential clients get irritated or impatient when I ask them questions, prior to meeting, as a part of the pre-screening process.

 

I guess I was trying to shine some light on a dirty little side of the business. If we all just sat around and didn't discuss these things I see the potential for abuses on both sides of this issue. How often do we just let something happen and then it just becomes acceptable (for example, airlines charging a fee for a checked bag). Another good example is the definition of clock watching. I've seen that term abused on more than one occasion. Clock watching is when the escort keeps looking at the clock wishing the time was up and not when an escort politely reminds the client that the agreed upon time is up; how unfair would you consider that definition if you were the next client that the escort was late getting to?

 

I'm optimistic that escorting could eventually be a service that isn't viewed as one that is less than reputable. There is no doubt that people may still behave badly, but if there is a chance that someone (client or escort) reads this thread and considers their actions then it is well worth the discussion.