smoking escort

[topasian99]

When you hire an escort and fly him to your location for a weekend. The full disclosure that the escort is a heavy smoker should not have been omitted during the initial conversation. I recently have the unpleasant experience of spending a weekend with an escort from another city and have to put up with his smoking. When someone blatantly ignores the no-smoking policy in the hotel, went through more than a pack of cigarette in less than 40 hours and could only offer u an excuse of "oh, did I not tell you that I smoke?"

 

Kissing was not part of our deal. But should that have made a difference in disclosing? Especially when his ad says he's a non smoker.

[liubit]

I think that a smoking escort must disclose his habit before the appointment. Kissing is a real MUST for me. Doing it with a smoking guy is sometimes like licking an ashtray and, especially if he is a heavy smoker, no amount of mints is strong enough to completely hide the aftertaste....

 

Of course, I can make exceptions to this rule when the guy is cute and the smoking is light.

[+ Axiom2001]

The guy should have been honest! If he advertises as a nonsmoker, then he should have upheld this aspect of his ad. I would have sent his ass home if he constantly smoked throughout his time with me because I abhor having to smell any cigarette or pipe or cigar smoke and take it in secondhand.

 

By my not having smoked and live virtually in a smoke free zone here in California-- I can't stand to pass by anyone whose smoking or be in the company or environs of a smoker because I do not want my nostrils to encounter this horrible and terrible smell-- or my having to inhale second hand smoke residue.

 

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In early February I had a date with an escort. When we began partial deep kissing, I could taste the remnants of his being a smoker. It wasn't that strong or unpleasant or distasteful, so I didn't say anything! In a way it brought about a tinge of sexiness in spite of my being an anti smoker and a nonsmoker. I am not being hypocritical in what I wrote in the above!

[Steven_Draker]

I think that a smoking escort must disclose his habit before the appointment.

 

Liubit, I agree with you. I am a social smoker; it means that I can go months and months with no smoking and then occasionally smoke one or two, usually when I go out and have some alcohool (which is not very often) and only if my partner smokes too. Otherwise, I don't.

 

The strange thing is that even if I may smoke occasionally a cigarette, the cigarette smoke bothers me big time. I feel very sympathetic toward the original poster who had to endure the whole weekend with a smoking guy around him.

[KMEM]

Smokers reek of smoke, whether they smoke during a visit or not. There is no escaping that. Therefore, I prefer to not see anyone who smokes at all. I am an ex-smoker who now realizes I didn't like to be around smoke even when I was also a culprit. However, I quit 23 years ago and don't miss it or being around it at all. I stay out of bars or restaurants that allow smoking. Fortunately, those are very few in my state these days. Regardless of how I feel, I still respect the right of others to smoke if they wish, just not around me. So yes, a FULL disclosure is mandatory.

 

Best regards,

KMEM

[Guest Wetnwildbear]

A Weekend w/ A Smoker . .

 

What a fraud

 

- He advertises as "non-smokin" then accepts a weekend booking

 

and is a pretty heavy smoker

 

- If he did a pack in a weekend knowing you didnt like smokers

 

- He would have easily done a couple of packs without you!

 

 

I would have been furious - sent him home and billed him got the airfare!

 

 

PS - Did I Mention I Can't Stand to be Around Smoke

 

I certainly hope you write a review - Let others know!

[+ purplekow]

Where there is smoke there is fire. IF he smokes, he's fired.

[Steven_Draker]

"Spot the difference"

 

What a fraud

- He advertises as "non-smokin" then accepts a weekend booking and is a pretty heavy smoker

 

OK, let's play the game "Spot the difference" in this random Rentboy ad:

 

(hint: it's not the age )

 

AGE

83

ETHNICITY

Caucasian

LANGUAGES SPOKEN

English

COCK SIZE

Large

FORESKIN

Cut

HAIR COLOR

Brown

EYE COLOR

Hazel

BUILD

Lean/Swimmer

BODY HAIR

Smooth

HEIGHT

6' 0" (183cm)

WEIGHT

149lbs (68kg)

SMOKING

Non-Smoker

DRUGS

Non-Drug User

SEXUAL POSITION

Top

SAFE SEX

Always Safe

TASTES / SPECIALTIES / FETISHES

Vanilla, Leather, Water Sports, Anal, S&M, B&D, Oral, Spanking, Role Playing, Kissing

SEXUAL ORIENTATION

Gay

TALENTS

Massage, Travel Companion, Tour Guide

___________________________________________

 

Question to clients: do you think that an escort who is a heavy smoker and advertises as a 'Non-Smoker' is correct and "genuine"? (to quote one of my favorite posters here)

[rvwnsd]

Absolutely not...he is a liar. It makes you wonder what else he lies about.

[lookin4hotties]

Although I'm not a smoker, I have hired a few that do smoke. They are

not allowed to smoke in my car and I make sure they smoke outside the

hotel in the parking lot. I will sometimes go out with them while they

light up. There is a cute 19 year old I see often and he's very polite

about it and he knows to let me know and will ask first.

 

I always check before booking a travelling escort whether the escort

smokes and how much by asking them directly what their habits

are. I let them know smoking inside the hotel will not be okay.

 

I usually also have a chat with them when they arrive that they need

to communicate so we are on the same page with expectations and

needs (like wanting a late night cigarette, hopefully not more than two!)

 

That is totally too bad he did that to you. The board is right, he lied.

 

Lookin4hotties

[JT Brooklyn]

Smoking No Way!

 

As an Ex Addicted Smoker...YES it is an addiction! No Way.

 

IF your not the type to get into kissing I guess Smoking doesn't make or break the Deal! But after quitting 12 years ago, I donot like and have even stopped hanging out with people who do smoke. It sounds harsh but we all have to make hard decisions for Ourselves in Life.

 

Smoking is one of the First things I check out. IF a guy Smokes even 2 a day your gonna know after the First Lip Good Lip Lock! It's not enjoyable "sucking up smoke" from someones Lungs! I prefer my "sucking" to be done on other parts of a Guys Bod!

[Guest TNT Ted]

I'm like Draker. Strictly a social smoker. So, if I'm with a smoker, we may both smoke and both probably stink, but the two of us won't even notice.

 

Otherwise, you could always pretend you're fucking the Marlboro Man, which at one time I thought would be hot.

[Guest manrent1]

In my opinion this really is making a mountain out of a molehill. If you're that upset by someone smoking I can only imagine what other "habits" you find offensive.

 

I can also bet that the escort wished he could flee the situation once you threw your hissy fit about his smoking.

 

Christ, what a way to ruin what might have other been a decent weekend for both of you.

[JT Brooklyn]

TNT..Sadly what the Marlboro Man gained Fame for was what ultimately led to his Passing.

 

The LEVI Products are much less harmful and definitely Sexier ADS!

[topasian99]

Just wondering if anyone can tell me about possible repercussion upon hotel management discovered that guests had been smoking in room.

[AdamSmith]

Just wondering if anyone can tell me about possible repercussion upon hotel management discovered that guests had been smoking in room.

Some hotels threaten to ding you with a $100 or more penalty. No idea if that is ever enforced.

[+ deej]

Some hotels threaten to ding you with a $100 or more penalty. No idea if that is ever enforced.

 

It is most definitely enforced.

 

Palm Springs. Mariott Courtyard. $250. For smoking OUTSIDE, ON THE BALCONY. I made the mistake of leaving behind the makeshift ashtray.

 

The irony is that it was the coldest night of the winter. (Freezing in Palm Springs, if you can imagine.) Their dumb-ass policy actually goads me into staying inside and comfy if I'm going to get charged anyway for trying to comply.

[AdamSmith]

I made the mistake of leaving behind the makeshift ashtray.

 

Didn't your mother teach you? Hide the evidence.

 

Few months ago I was at the Grand Hyatt in Times Sq., in a nonsmoking room. First my escort friend, then the friend that he called over, then me in a nicotine backslide, all ended up puffing away on Marlboro Lights (ugh in particular). And that was the least of what was smoked there, that night.

 

But I had the forethought to open the windows, and especially to clean up all the spilled ashes the next morning. Got the credit card bill the next month, and -- whew -- no upcharge.

[+ deej]

then me in a nicotine backslide

 

whew -- no upcharge.

 

Yeah, you were lucky. These days, with hotels looking for ANY reason to bring in more cash, they're far less likely to "look the other way".

 

I can't afford any backslides these days. I quit last June and DO NOT want to go back to it.

[+ Tom Isern]

Dear steven draker

 

Hummm...I recognize those stats. They are David-SF's.

 

So...let me see if I have this straight. You are implying that David is a hypocrite for listing himself as non-smoking when he is in fact a social smoker--like you admit you are. But you list yourself as non-smoking on Rentboy too? The logic escapes me.

 

Funny thing is, I just spent almost an entire week with David. I didn't see him smoke once. In fact, I've spent several weeks with him over the past few months and have never once seen him smoke--nor have I ever tasted it on his breath. I learned that he is "supposedly" a smoker when you accused him here of being one.

 

Spreading false and misleading information about your fellow escorts was the business of IceFireWizard. We all knew that. But one of these days you really should learn that it doesn't reflect well on you professionally. Time to grow up.

[+ David-SF]

actually not true I am not a "social" smoker anymore

 

I have a sufficient substitute for smoking its a wonderful new cure for cigarettes

and it works wonders, no health implications

and no desire to smoke at all.

besides i hated it even when i did smoke.

 

I think the giveaway here is that Steven and I did the Aids Ride last year and engaged in some "social" smoking

I spent 90% of my free time with some of my friends from SF and they were relentless, rebellious smokers.

we were in a sort of exile among the riders and it was really fun

there are pictures of me riding up a really steep hill with a cigarette hanging out of my mouth

which was an act of anarchy in the spirit of good fun.

 

I totally accept Stevens continuing saga and veiled attempts to belittle, raise questions, and discredit other escorts integrity and honesty,

I have gotten used to it.

after all i am not the only escort/poster/client he has gone after.

 

Look its a forum for everyone to enjoy my thought is this:

 

Does it help to post insinuations? or to attempt to elude to things about others? even when you have no real or solid basis for these mysterious claims/games

 

its sort of a sickness .... unfounded speculation and stuff of that nature its toxic.

 

maybe Steven & I could get together on the ride this year and talk about whatever is the problem.

 

being encouraging and supportive is my preference.

 

on the other hand i don't understand the need

to copy and paste an alleged "random" escorts Rentboy stats and then to put them in question to clients in the form of a game.

 

leans toward manipulative yet ever so slightly clever attempt to create a stir.

 

I cant see what could be accomplished by doing such a thing by another escort but I am not Steven so I cant answer that.

 

but I will say this to quell any potential speculation by readers that may draw some incorrect assumption from this vauge post by steven

 

its not me that was hired by the original poster to this thread

and I do not smoke (not even socially any longer)

 

I don't like cigarettes but i don't mind smokers.

 

I do remember being told by Steven that good karma creates good karma

so if that is true then it would be a real shame for him to have to deal with the karma

of trying to be unkind to others.

 

although i see that all this could make for

a good drama I hate to be drawn into it.

 

its hurtful to everyone involved and plays on insecurities unnecessarily

I would like to think a little above all that, and stay on the high road.

 

Olive branch delivered

maybe in not so nice of a fashion but this is the best i can do right now

[Steven_Draker]

You are implying that David is a hypocrite for listing himself as non-smoking when he is in fact a social smoker--like you admit you are. But you list yourself as non-smoking on Rentboy too? The logic escapes me.

 

Mister Isern,

It's not surprising that you jump to defend your friend, but nowhere in my post I mentioned the name David. You took the decision to come out with his name ...

 

Would that also mean that the mysterious escort Axiom mentions in his post above could have been David? ... Hmmm

 

Re: Rentboy If you would have payed closer attention to the Escort Control Panel you'd have noticed that only two choices exist: smoker and non-smoker. I consider myself closer to the latter. If there was a choice 'social smoker' I'd be listed as such.

[Steven_Draker]

I'm glad to hear that David quit smoking. More power to him.

 

I was observing him for a full week during a strenuous physical effort in June and believe me that's NOT what I'd call a "social smoker". A social smoker it's not a chain smoker and doesn't NEED to smoke every day. It was not fun being around smokers during the Ride. If things have changed since I'm glad for him.

 

I have found David not to be sincere and truthful in some areas. I have solid basis for my argument and I don't need to come with the details here. This is my conviction and my experience with him. He's really good at writing on this Board and telling people what they WANT TO HEAR and not what he thinks or he wants to say. That he keeps for "behind the back". Also I wish he was less gossipy about other escorts and clients. Not my cup of tea.

 

And finally I don't have anything against the poster David, I just don't like when someone is trying to come up with something fake and untrue on this Board.

 

Good luck to him.

[JT Brooklyn]

Social Smoking

 

The definition of "Social" reads.. for "companionship" which does fall into a Working Guys Description!

 

I'm thinking this "Social Smoking" is used so as to not scare off potential Contacts who do smoke by certain Working Guys! Just goes to show ya what SOME will do to turn a buck!

 

Nothing Gayer than to watch some of the "Girls" standing outside a bar blowing little puffs of smoke into the air so as to seem very Social!

 

8" keep taking these Cute Pixs...One of your Face Pixs is worth alot more than a guys Headless Boring shots!

[+ David-SF]

Response follows

 

"I just don't like when someone is trying to come up with something fake and untrue on this Board."

 

ummm very interesting

 

CASE CLOSED!