Gutpunching fetish

[sashek]

Ever since I was a kid, I've been turned on by the idea of gutpunching (old cowboy shows had a lot of this). Are there many posters who share this fetish? And is this a request that escorts often get - that a client be allowed to punch the escort in the stomach?

[jackhammer91406]

I recall reading sometime back that Devon (now retired) often encouraged clients to punch him in the gut. I believe he even referenced it on his website. Have I mis-remembered this?

[Bilbo]

I think you are correct, Jackhammer.

I am the other way. I really enjoy bodypunching my clients. They like it, too.

[noviceny]

Jack,

 

Yup, that was one of the first things I remember reading about Devon.

 

Its not necessarily a fetish for me but its definitely a turn on to see how much I can take or see if the other guy is stronger...its a strength thing for me...fortunately, straight guys will engage in this activity without ever realizing that its stimulating to others :-)

[taylorky]

ohhh yea ****i like getting smacked upside the head with 2x4s...especially the ones with rusy nails,hot damn that makes me hotter than a pond frog in a boiling kettle.:+

[guptasa1]

This is one I don't share. =oP I will say, in a gay.com chatroom, somebody REALLY freaked me out by messaging me out of the blue, saying he liked my picture, asking to get together and gutpunch me repeatedly to see how much I could take... He thought it would be hot to knock the wind out of me. That was quite scary actually - I'm a sub, but that just does not appeal to me at all personally. (Yeahhh...I haven't had a lot of luck with the whole dating thing there...) =oP

 

Now what I am a little bit curious about is firm massaging and maybe fist-pressing of the belly/groin area. I know that can feel somewhat intense (and good) but that's a different thing I think. I just can't see myself enjoy being punched in the gut though.

 

(Nothing against it...just not my thing. lol)

[Bilbo]

Firm massage of the belly/groin area is so stimulating that the masseur I go to, who is very, very serious about there not being a sexual content to his massages, won't do it for anyone no matter how long you've been going to him. And it is one of the first, simplest moves taught in Body Electric's ( http://www.bodyelectric.org ) erotic massage courses.

While one thing that can be very exciting about SMBD is seeing how much you can take, this is one move that I personally don't take all the way there. Taking a belly punch into an unprepared belly is how Houdini died, after all. But using it, in a way, gently, largely for its symbolic value (and, no, I am not sure what all it stands for for everyone) can be very sexy. And is an extension of what you want to do, just like a paddle is a natural extension of a hand - depending on what direction you're travelling in.

[sashek]

Bilbo (and others who've replied) - thanks for your response. Like you, I don't know why the idea of punching someone in the gut "does" it for me ... who knows where fetishes come from? I've rarely had the opportunity to indulge this, and don't want to hurt anyone. Rather, for me it would be a form of sexual foreplay, and as long as the receiver enjoyed it as much as I did, I figure "why not?" I also liked your analogy to a paddle being an extension of the hand - that put some perspective onto this ... it's a bit of an embarrassing fetish to raise with prospective partners. Your input helped a lot. Thanks again.

[guptasa1]

Hmmm. Interesting. Just another different strokes for different folks thing I guess.

 

I wouldn't be opposed to the belly/groin massage or even some GENTLE gutpunching to try it. I guess I was just imagining a full-force punch. Still not my thing, but I think I get it. (Always interesting to learn about new fetishes, even if they're not shared).

 

Oh, and relating to the paddle analogy. Interestingly enough, while I *love* being spanked, I don't care for paddles. For me, the erotic part of that particular fetish has to involve a bare hand. Why? Who knows. Just something weird in my personality I suppose. A hand just seems more personal and intimate for some reason to me.

[Bilbo]

There's probably somewhere on every continuum where it starts (or stops) being appealing to us.

[sashek]

Hi guys - I thought I'd add a line to this posting, since it's been inactive for about a year and a half. Do any of you share this fetish, and do you know any escorts (apart from Devon, now retired) who will allow clients to punch them in the stomach? ... Sashek

[uwsman2]

I definitely share this fetish... Both punching and taking punches (although the latter can quickly become too much for me).

 

Back in the day, I hooked up with Devon a few times and we did the gutpunching thing - he was unbelievable in terms of the kind of punishment he could absorb to his gut. Just the tightest, hardest abs you could imagine.

 

Another experience I fondly remember is Reece Rothmeier, now retired, bondage/SM master of NY. I wanted him to work some gp into a bondage scene, and he did a fine job with a bright red boxing glove. For some reason, he had only one glove (:-) but that worked out just fine. The problem was that I guess few clients had ever asked him to do it and he was a bit nervous about causing damage, so as soon as I verbalized some pain he stopped - that's the time to keep on, just a bit lighter and working up the force gradually....

 

Mike Grey in NYC (and sometime traveller). Mike's got fantastic abs and can be into receiving at times. He was a reluctant puncher, however... but did a great job of applying gut pressure during a scene...

 

The important thing is to verbalize your desires with your escort, and to remember that if you don't exercse and work your abs regularly to attain good control, you can set yourself up for serious injury as a punch receiver ;(

[sashek]

Hey uwsman2 - thanks for the reply. It's good to know there are other guys into this as well.

[whipped guy]

Re: "Another experience I fondly remember is Reece Rothmeier, now retired, bondage/SM master of NY. ...he was a bit nervous about causing damage, so as soon as I verbalized some pain he stopped."

 

Reece never wanted to cross the line into what he thought was risky or possibly dangerous. He always made a conscious effort to err on the side of safety.

 

Now Reece told me there were only a couple of his clients that were more adventurous than I when it came to BDSM. Something tells me uwsman2 was probably one of those guys....}(

[uwsman2]

Perhaps, but I doubt it. Apart from the gutpunching stuff, I think I was pretty "mainstream" if such a word can possibly be used in connection with bondage/SM!

 

But I wish Reece hadn't retired.... Nobody out there doing this kind of escorting work in NYC has quite his overwhelmingly sensuous appeal when it comes to this stuff!

 

By the way, some online exploration led me to youtube.com where several people have posted some real hot gutpunching videoclips... Including one guy out on Long Island who has begun documenting his exploration of this fetish... He goes out into the woods with a friend, positions the videocam, lies down and has his friend go to work. The only problem is a slight sound delay - so you see the fist connect and then a second later you hear the punch. But it's still hot to watch.

[whipped guy]

Re: "I think I was pretty "mainstream" if such a word can possibly be used in connection with bondage/SM!"

 

uwsman2... Then I can assume that you were not the guy who asked to be set ablaze with the violet wand!?! ‘Violet wand fire play’ now that’s a real 'right on the edge' type of fetish!

 

Plus, thanks for the Youtube.com info...

 

And Oh Yeah! There are quite a few who wish Reece had not retired!!!!:-(

[uwsman2]

No, not me. The one time a guy tried to start using a violet wand on me, I freaked totally and put a stop to it... Although now I wish I'd stuck it out a bit longer. My experience has convinced me that anything that's not doing permanent damage can end up being pleasurable if you give it enough of a chance....

[whipped guy]

Re: "...experience has convinced me that anything that's not doing permanent damage can end up being pleasurable..."

 

Exactly, this is why I always like to try an activity or gadget at least once, and then decide if it floats my boat. Even though I have enjoyed the pleasures of the violet wand, becoming a blazing fire ball has never been on my long or short list of activities to try! Ironically, given the topic of this thread, gut punching is one of the few BDSM activity I never really got involved with, though I do recall Reece using his boxing glove in a teasing manner on a couple of occasions.

[uwsman2]

Somehow, from my earliest adolescence when I started jerking off, I figured out that pressure on my gut heightened the experience... just a small step to fantasizing having somebody work my gut as an erotic turn-on. Don't know where it came from, and I've never been a boxing fan.

[Guest MikeThomas]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GvrUHznsxk

[clepto86]

Huge gutpunching fetishist here! ??

I love it because it's some kind of "masculinity ritual" and it's fun to feel the strength of your partner, be it as the puncher or as the punchee. ??

[Rudynate]

I love doing it with a guy who has really great abs - I love to punch and I love to take punches. To me, it's a form of muscle worship. I'm not so into it though that I would take really hard punches. Some guys are.

[+ Keith30309]

Met a guy on Seekingarrangement who was really into it.

We met 5 or 6 times and gradually peeled back the layers of why it was such a turn on for him. He could actually have an orgasm and ejaculate without either of us touching anything below his waist, which was fascinating.

As we talked it became clear it was a combination of the physical stimulation of certain muscles (which he recalled being exciting at a young age) and the psychological element of a very masculine, physical interaction.

I’ve never met anyone else into it.

[uwsman2]

It is very difficult to find gutpunch-receivers and gutpunch-givers ready to play who can be trusted to stay within reasonable limits. The problem is that if over-done, this can cause serious damage. If done with finesse, it can be intensely erotic to those who are really "into it." I met a guy who was really into giving punches - it got him off tremendously - but he was looking for somebody who could take more than I could receive at the time, since I had fantasized a lot but was really new to that scene. So we never had a repeat.

 

One of my most intense experiences as a receiver was at a sex-club on the lower East Side of Manhattan (way out east on Houston Street) that was hosting the NY Bondage Club for a while. One of the regulars put me through a scene that was really shattering. He knew what he was doing. By the time I called a halt, I was actually too light-headed to stand up, as the mild battering of my abs had drawn so much blood to my torso away from my head! (I was tied standing spread-eagle, open and exposed to receiving.) Intense! But, of course, this has to be done with close attention to how the receiver is doing - checking in frequently by the giver - to avoid causing real damage. On this occasion, he was closely observing my reactions and knew when to slow down, when to massage my abs, when to stop, untie my wrists, and help me to sit down, bringing water for me to sip.