Now I know why people leave this site.

[Guest JON1265]

Censorship is the name of the game folks.

 

I notice an escort can trash a client with absolutely NO recourse on the side of the client.

 

Is it fair that an escort can trash a client and not have a say in the matter?

 

Of course I am speaking hypothetically.

 

Your thoughts please...

 

That is if the "thought police" (although they claim not to be) allow you to see this.

[Guest Esc_Tracker]

>Censorship is the name of the game folks.

>

>I notice an escort can trash a client with absolutely NO

>recourse on the side of the client.

 

You hardly have "absolutely NO recourse" as your whining here clearly indicates (which is not to say you don't have good reason to whine). ;-)

 

>Is it fair that an escort can trash a client and not have a

>say in the matter?

 

Why shouldn't an escort be able to trash a client? And you DO seem to be having "a say in the matter" unless I am getting this by telepathy. :-)

 

>Of course I am speaking hypothetically.

 

Indeed. :-)

 

>Your thoughts please...

 

You have them for what they are worth (which is probably not a whole lot). :-)

 

>That is if the "thought police" (although they claim not to

>be) allow you to see this.

 

They appear to have. Seriously though, you should learn a trick from the better escorts. When you get a bad review (as you have as a client) and your reaction does not address the issues raised gracefully, you come out looking the worse for it.

 

Besides, what harm has he done you? We all know who "Emilio" is. None of us know who *you* are.

 

My advice is "get over it".

[+ deej]

>Censorship is the name of the game folks.

 

HooBoy did indeed censor your post and I took him to task for it. He has relented and agrees you should be able to have your say. It is specifically allowed by the message center rules.

 

You now have e-mail from him saying go ahead and post.

[Guest JON1265]

I actually did raise the "issues" addressed gracefully and was sent an e-mail telling me it would not be posted.

 

I was civil in my "response" to the response. What I object to are lies being told about me..the escort can challenge the lies...the client cannot....

 

Thanks for your thoughts...

[Guest TruthTeller]

Rather than writing these whiny posts, don't you think that your time would be better spent cleaning that filthy hole of yours, and tending to the other hygeine problems of yours which that young gentleman courteously described?

 

After all, there's only so much time in the day, and if you're on here complaining, it means you're not working on ridding yourself of the various odors which apparently emanate from your body.

 

I think Emilio - both his pics and his response - are fucking hot!

[Rick Munroe]

I have one thing to say about Emillio: [h1]YUM[/h1]

[Guest JON1265]

I thought the same thing, too, when I saw his pic...

 

But pictures don't always tell the whole story...

[Guest JON1265]

Thanks Truthteller -

 

Now I feel like I really belong on these threads...

 

Any tips on staying clean? I am sure one could eat dinner out of you, asshole.

 

oopps..I meant "your asshole."

[BewareofNick]

JON,

 

Getting trashed by HTT is something of an initiation rite. It means you've arrived!! It means you belong!!! It means that you must be a good guy!!!! Welcome home!

[Rick Munroe]

Forget about leaving this site...my bf Derek just told me he'd leave me for Emillio.

Actually, he wouldn't really be leaving me because I intend to go to Philly ASAP & check out that hot young thing myself.

[Guest]

>Rather than writing these whiny posts, don't you think that

>your time would be better spent cleaning that filthy hole of

>yours, and tending to the other hygeine problems of yours

>which that young gentleman courteously described?

>

>After all, there's only so much time in the day, and if

>you're on here complaining, it means you're not working on

>ridding yourself of the various odors which apparently

>emanate from your body.

>

>I think Emilio - both his pics and his response - are

>fucking hot!

 

Well, there is no way to know whether the described hygeine problems are accurate or not unless we were there. (It is interesting, though, that so far he hasn't denied them). I would have to wonder about someone whose escort reviews are almost always negative (again, I haven't been following his reviews, but that's a question to be looked into).

[Guest cp8036]

Jon,

 

Anonymously, without risk of losing your income, without the need to provide support for your allegations, then posting and reading on this site; you have more power and recourse than the escort does.

 

Hypothetically, some escort says bad things about a client...unclean, drunk, rude, fat, and so on in his rebuttal to a bad review. Might be false or embellished, or could be true.. what really happens to you??? Whats your cost in terms of income and itendity? You get humiliated in front of a bunch of other anonymous men in cyberspace. Other than a bad escort date what are you out of??? A chunck of your anonymous dignity here? $80.00? A wasted 30 minutes? What is the bad things the escort said about the client were true? He should be thankful someone bought to his attention his stinky crotch and the resulting flies that nest.

 

Whereas the escort could very well loose hundreds of dollars over the next couple days. He gets impacted in the wallet. He must be identified by nature of his work. His contact information is usually posted on a website. He cannot change his name and start a new day, as he will loose any good reputation he had gained to date. He will have to be extremely diplomatic to suggest something was remiss with a client. The escort will need to craft a response and start damage control, or risk future business.

 

Hypothetically, a client meets an escort, and posts a bad review on this escort. Even if they are baseless, the client will not have much of his world fucked up. You can move along, unknown, and keep bashing someone for whatever reason. If said client has some issues, and keeps this campaign of slander up it will get noticed. I remember seeing somewhere that hooboy took out some client's review as every single review was bad. In 2 minutes the client can re-invent himself with a new screen name. He has nothing to gain by continuity of his identity.

 

If an escort keeps getting poor reviews, and then rebutts saying how nasty/dirty/smelly the client was it will stick to him. People here notice every pattern possible, down to bad reviews, and how the escort responds. I am sure B.O.N. can run efficient research on this escort. If every client has some hygiene problem according to the escort, people will realize the escort is the problem. He cannot continue in this way.

 

No one would appreciate thousands of people reading that you have buffalo-fart breath and have a dirty hole. But is very unlikely anyone in the real world (non-cyber) will match this to you.

[Guest JT]

Hi CP,

 

Good post. There's just one thing I'm not too sure, though. Are you suggesting that clients who have "bad" reviews (even when they are untrue) by escorts should just keep quiet and move on since they have much less to lose (due to the bad reviews) as compared to the escorts?

 

 

Hi Jon,

 

I don't find your response in another thread unreasonable or mean-spirited. It seems that you're just trying to present your side of the story. However, if you're really unhappy about Primiere (sp?), perhaps you should stop using its service, IMHO.

 

 

JT

[Guest cp8036]

If the rebuttal said things clearly untrue, should be countered.

 

However any further postings about the escort's bad report of a cleint will just bring more attention. If some escort said I had a stinky kitty, and thus the reason for no fucking, I think I would let it die. Perhaps was his subjective evaluation. If the escort keeps having these exchanges people will pick him out. I've seen other reviews tracked and identified by use of capitols, split infinitives, and so on. Escort responses are few, so people see them. Trying to justify myself makes me look worse...IMHO. Usually readers will think about the escort and not the client who may/may not had a problem. Don't be defensive if nothing was wrong.

 

In any case, I would check my bottom to see if something was remiss, and then get me to the bidet.

[Guest JT]

>If the rebuttal said things clearly untrue, should be

>countered.

 

Thanks for your prompt reply and clarification. :-)

 

JT

[Guest Tampa Yankee]

cp8036

>

>Anonymously, without risk of losing your income, without the

>need to provide support for your allegations, then posting

>and reading on this site; you have more power and recourse

>than the escort does.

>

 

Very true, and your description in the above post of the impact on escort and client of a bad review and negative response, respectively, goes a long way toward making the case why HooBoy gives the escort the last word in the review process, a process that has to end somewhere.

 

Jon,

 

I've been in your shoes when I posted a negative and I didn't like it either. I anticpated I would be trashed as a result, it goes with the terrirtory. If this site is to work then it needs reviews --the good and the bad. Else, this site fails it purpose and thus its community. So, don't let this experience put you off on submitting reviews -- the good and the bad, when called for.

[Guest TruthTeller]

>I've been in your shoes when I posted a negative and I

>didn't like it either. I anticpated I would be trashed as

>a result, it goes with the terrirtory. If this site is to

>work then it needs reviews --the good and the bad. Else,

>this site fails it purpose and thus its community.

 

The irony is that a when a client responds to the escort's negative remarks, the client draws far more attention to those remarks than they would have otherwise received. It's much the same way that film producers or gallery owners LOVE when their products are protested. Protests bring attention.

 

I love escort responses, and read them religiously, because they are usually so entertaining - either because of how dumb they are, how mean they are, or both. But I almost never look to see who the client is who prompted the response, because the client is anonymous and unidentifiable, and their identity is not interesting.

 

In short, had Jon not written a response to Emilio's report, neither I - nor scores of other people here - would have read the report, or had we read the report, we would not have realized that Jon was the subject of it. It was only because Jon protested that we now know that Jon has a dirty mouth and hole.

[Guest cp8036]

<...But I almost never look to see who the client is who prompted the response, because the client is anonymous and unidentifiable, and their identity is not interesting...>

 

My thoughts as well, just articulated better. Some guys have well-written and seemingly honest replies, so not all are dumb/mean.

 

For a great rebuttal see the message from:

 

Michael of Ohio review #11

[HooBoy]

Jon, What information do you have that indicates people are leaving this site? It is statements like that which give you absolutely NO credibility.

 

The stats for the past few months:

 

DAILY Hits:

 

August 2001 - 368,697

 

September 2001 - 401,326

 

October 2001 - 422,519

 

November 2001 (and the month isn't over yet) - 472,799

 

This is PER DAY.

 

So, Jon, before you post incorrect information (like maybe your review and your rebuttal?) maybe you should know the facts.

 

Frankly I would like November to drop by one - and that one would be you.

 

HooBoy (tired and cranky after a 10 hour flight)

[SmallTownJohn]

DAAAAMN! There you go, Hoo! He'll lay the statistical Mojo on you & show you the door:0)

 

That was too sweet,

 

John

[Rick Munroe]

And that is why I like to stay on your good side, Hooboy. :*

You're better than Alexis Colby (but you use facts instead of furs to make your point).

 

By the way...congratulations. I had no idea you got that many hits per day.

I'd better watch what my ass and I say from now on. }>

[Guest TruthTeller]

>August 2001 - 368,697

>September 2001 - 401,326

>October 2001 - 422,519

>November 2001 (and the month isn't over yet) - 472,799

 

I didn't know that hooboy kept a running tally of how many people have been inside Traveller's ass. That's a nice service. Given that Traveller's going home for Christmas, I wonder if the number will decline for December. We'll see. Either way, good job for November, Traveller - and as hooboy said: "the month isn't (even) over yet".

[Guest Tampa Yankee]

>>The irony is that a when a client responds to the escort's

>negative remarks, the client draws far more attention to

>those remarks than they would have otherwise received. It's

>much the same way that film producers or gallery owners LOVE

>when their products are protested. Protests bring

>attention.

 

True.

 

>I love escort responses, and read them religiously, because

>they are usually so entertaining - either because of how

>dumb they are, how mean they are, or both. But I almost

>never look to see who the client is who prompted the

>response, because the client is anonymous and

>unidentifiable, and their identity is not interesting.

 

True again.

 

>In short, had Jon not written a response to Emilio's report,

>neither I - nor scores of other people here - would have

>read the report, or had we read the report, we would not

>have realized that Jon was the subject of it.

 

The third time is the charm...

[Guest Tampa Yankee]

Congrats on the daily hits!!! Looks like you might be a success some day yet!! :-)

 

>HooBoy (tired and cranky after a 10 hour flight)

 

The queston is how tired and cranky would you be on you own chartered jet with your traveling harem of escorts?? :-)

 

(And if this gives you ideas, then I expect one free ride with the harem boys present.:9 )

[Guest dstud4hire]

Hoo boy,

 

Those are impressive stats hoo boy! I'll add my congrats to that of the others on tihs thread...

 

you should do a separate post chatting about your trip...

 

and whomever had the idea of the private jet...LOVE it! Where do I sign up!!

 

ok...but I digress...again, congrats on the success, and of course, good use of facts in a response!

 

Gabriel in St. Louis