Celebrites you admire and respect

[Guest happyday]

Christopher Reeve......never was a big fan but his courage, determination and intestinal fortitude following his accident are what heroes are made of. I hope so much he will walk again.

Jimmy Carter.... left the White House as one of the most unpopular modern day presidents. Dedicated his life to building homes for the poor and is now one of the most admired men in America. Way to go Jimmy!

[Guest happyguy]

About George Clooney ... I spent a night with some guy in California a few years ago and he told me he had been "very close" to GC, implying lots about their relationship. He was probably just talking, but I must admit, every time I see GC's photo anywhere, I do think about what it would be like to be with him ... As far as Brad goes, well - I don't even dare think! Lucky Jennifer A!

[mmk]

What celebreties -whether they are sports, political, actors, etc- do you have respect for in overcoming odds and making their life a triumph and success?

 

The one celebrity that I have always respected and admired is Tina Turner. The fact that she survived decades of abuse and that she was able to overcome that and acheive such a level of inner peace to me is wonderful. Even though her autobiography is very open and graphic about her life, I am sure that at some levels it did not even scratch the surface. I just consider her to be an amazing person.

[+ Lucky]

Well, hands down, it has to be Brad Pitt. He has to struggle everyday with the fact that he is so irresistible. Seriously, it must be a burden for him to keep such a great attitude when the whole world is wanting him naked.

And he was great tonight on Friends. And in Spy Game. And he had a real sense of humor on the Jay Leno clip last night where they showed him in bed with another guy, smoking a cigarette as if after sex.....

[BewareofNick]

I would have to say Michael J Fox. His battle against Parkinson's disease is very inspiring. I enjoyed his guest stint on Spin City after he left the show.

[Will]

Susan Sarandon

[Guest alanm]

Rosemary Clooney. She was a big singing star in the 1950s and then things fell apart for her. Her marriage broke up and Rosie suffered

a serious mental breakdown. But, in the '70s, she got back on the road, sometimes playing Holiday Inns etc. For the past twenty years her career has slowly, but surely, picked up. Now Rosie is almost in the same class as Tony Bennett. And during that time, Rosie has recorded about 15 CD, all first class in every way. What a great voice! By the way, this also allows me to mention George Clooney, who, I'm sure, also loves and admires his aunt. George probably doesn't have Brad Pitt's problem with being a hunk.

[Guest Kevin 2]

OPRAH hands down! Laugh if you want to but she has overcome as much as anyone and IMO she is an all around wonderful person. Tina Turner a close second. BTW I assume you have seen the movie "Whats love got to do with it?" An excellent movie.

[EXPAT]

CHER

 

http://www.cher.com

 

She just released her 24th album in Europe last Monday called "Living Proof". For those of you who liked "Believe" will love this CD. It is not coming out in the US until 2002, but you can pick it up as an import in most large music stores.

 

The title says it all -- "Living Proof". At age 55, she is better than ever - TV success, OSCAR, and music success. She has had the ups and downs and still comes out on top.

[+ Charlie]

This sounds terribly cynical, but I tend to save my admiration and respect for non-celebrities. Most celebrities are products of the media, personalities that have been created to entertain us. Our only knowledge of their characters, situations and actions comes from the "infotainment" establishment, which is not particularly trustworthy. Man has always needed mythical heroes, and the cultural salespeople who surround us today are happy to provide them in the form of manufactured "celebrities" who, of course, have dramatic stories to keep us interested--and keep us buying the sources and the products with which they are associated. I respect and admire those unknowns such as the emergency personnel at the WTC on Sept. 11, or the relief workers in Kosovo who keep on doing thankless hard work even when the spotlight has shifted somewhere else.

[Guest Joey Ciccone]

Adam West

Lou Reed

H.P. Lovecraft

Thomas Jefferson

John Waters

PeeWee Herman

Me

[Guest Zach DC]

Judith Light and Elizabeth Taylor. These women have devoted so much time and energy in the fight against AIDS, nationwide and here in DC.

 

Jimmy Carter for his unending dedication to helping the homeless.

 

Zach DC

[Guest Tampa Yankee]

OK, I'm going to reveal my shallowness... and go with my first thoughts though there are more worthy candidates, mentioned and not yet mentioned, that come to mind.

 

Madonna and Cher... why because of guts, determination, and longevity -- their ability to reinvent themselves, time and again, in a very unforgiving business.

[Guest TruthTeller]

Could the answers to the original question be any more stereotyped or cliched? The only thing missing is Judy Garland.

 

Are large portions of gay men really still stuck on the "idea" (to use that term generously) that the supreme attribute to which one should aspire is campy, girlish, self-absorbed, petty melodrama? Judging by the answers given here, it appears so.

 

Tina Turner, Cher, Madonna et al. are stupid, obnoxious, pointless, self-obssessed twats. At best, one could say that they are flamboyant performers. Sitting here, under these circumstances, you can't think of anyone you admire more than them? Those are the highest attributes which merit your admiration? Do you really not see what that says about you?

[+ Lucky]

But tell us the truth, TT(sic), whom do you admire?

[Guest Tampa Yankee]

Good morning T2,

 

>Tina Turner, Cher, Madonna et al. are stupid, obnoxious,

>pointless, self-obssessed twats.

 

I don't agree that these women are stupid... maybe not the heaviest of thinkers, but not stupid. Pointless, well that depends on what your point is... and their's. They call their own shots and are well compensated for it in monetary and other ways, continuing basis over the long term in an uncompromising industry that chews people up and spits them out. To paraphrase Frankie: they are doing it their way.

 

>obnoxious, ... self-obssessed twats

 

So was Picasso.... well, except for the twat thing.

 

>Sitting here, under

>these circumstances, you can't think of anyone you admire

>more than them?

 

I think I answered this in my post:

 

... and go with my first thoughts though there are more worthy candidates, mentioned and not yet mentioned, that come to mind.

 

>Do you really not see what that says

>about you?

 

One more time... I answered this in my post:

 

OK, I'm going to reveal my shallowness...

 

Just because I'm shallow doesn't mean I'm oblivious... all the time anyway.

 

:-)

[Guest jeffOH]

Deepak Chopra

Joseph Campbell

Susan Sarandon

Carl Jung

Elizabeth Montgomery

 

Jeff4hire@aol.com

[+ Lucky]

Tampa

Did you really feel it necessary to defend your self to TT(sic)? Surely you didn't think you would bring him to a greater understanding of your thinking on this?

The only person I know that TT(sic) admires is the nazi-esque escort posted by Esc Tracker on another thread.

[BewareofNick]

If I had to guess, I would say that HTT admires Leona Helmsley, Cruella DeVille and Hilary Rodham Clinton.

 

Oh, and Kirk/Voltaire...:7

[Guest TruthTeller]

>If I had to guess, I would say that HTT admires Leona

>Helmsley, Cruella DeVille and Hilary Rodham Clinton.

 

These women are irrelevant, and Hillary Clinton - to the extent she's not irrelevant - is a sick tryant who wants to take away individual freedom because she believes she can decide how you should live better than you can.

[Guest WetDream]

"The only person I know that TT(sic) admires is the nazi-esque escort posted by Esc Tracker on another thread."

 

Lucky: Having the hots for someone and admiring them are two quite different, and often mutually exclusive, things.

[Guest TruthTeller]

>Did you really feel it necessary to defend your self to

>TT(sic)? Surely you didn't think you would bring him to a

>greater understanding of your thinking on this?

 

There's a difference between "defending your self (sic)" and engaging in a discussion with someone whose ideas are different than yours. Only drooling imbeciles fail to appreciate the difference.

 

>The only person I know that TT(sic) admires is the

>nazi-esque escort posted by Esc Tracker on another thread.

 

I admire (not in order):

 

(1) Donald Rumsfeld;

(2) Friedrich Nietzsche;

(3) William Weld;

(4) the F-15 fighter pilot who dropped that nice guided bomb on the Al Qaeda Egyptian pig who was obliterated out of existence last week;

(5) Martina Navratilova;

(6) whoever is responsible for your death, provided that it's appropriately slow and painful.

[Guest Tampa Yankee]

>Tampa

>Did you really feel it necessary to defend your self to

>TT(sic)?

 

No, not at all. Generally, I wasn't taking exception with T2 so much as pointing out that I had already recognized his complaints in my original post.

 

And while I recognize that neither Madonna nor Cher are Eric Hoffer or Mother Theresea knock offs, in the field of entertainment they have had exceptional long-terms success due to their own efforts. Most people including myself, generally wouldn't list entertainers as the MOST admired or worthy indviduals... which was not the thread topic.

[+ Lucky]

RE: My slow and painful death

 

Now. TT(sic), you can't have it both ways. in a previous thread you told me to go slit my own throat. Now you would admire the person who would administer my slow and painful death. Which is it girl?

[Godiva]

Thats easy...tho mine aren't celebrities..(maybe in your own mind):-) I admire all of you who continually post here on the message board.I may not agree always with some motives (and as always I encourage dialog] but they are far and few between. Some of you have contributed more than you will ever know. Not just to those like me who come here for guidance during tough situations but to the many lurkers who haven't the courage to post yet and are getting their answers anyway. I admire those of you who are out of the closet and continually face and fight discrimination on a daily basis. I don't have much in common with many of the celebs and truthfully those that I meet through my job aren't all that cool. But when you ask me whom would I like to have dinner with, go to the movies, hang out and yes even fuck:9 it would be all of you (not at the same time.. but you know what I mean)...well okay and Joey Lawerence

 

 

Now for the mush..

..did I ever tell you your my hero..Your everything everything I wish I could be..I could fly higher than an eagle. Cause you are

[h1]The Wind Beneath my Wings[h1/]

 

Really Really corny...But Really, Really True..

 

G