Question for Bottoms

[Guest cmp]

This site has an educational side to it, and I would now like to get educated. Personally I am neither a top nor a bottom, just an affectionate cuddler and a grateful cuddlee (no need for the twink to work hard). Maybe that's one reason why I don't care about size and I find a tiny toy just as beautiful as a huge monster. Now I can easily imagine what a top feels while topping, the nature of the stimulation one gets from a tight hole is obvious even for someone as clueless as me (I enjoy the other type of holes, the one belonging to a different gender). I would like to understand in what ways does bottoming give pleasure to bottoms. Is there something in there as erogenous as your dickhead? What makes bottoming tick? Thanks in advance for your educational responses.

[Barry]

read everything you can find on the prostate gland. }>

[NASAguy]

In some ways, the answer for why bottoming is so pleasureable is the same as why topping is great also (for holes of both genders) and that is the overwhelming sense of intimacy that you have with your partner when engaging in either sexual activity.

Being completely filled by your partner and watching him thrust (if you are lying on your back) is incredibly sensual. Bottoming does take some time to become pleasurable, however, and until you can learn to relax your muscle may be actually quite painful at first. A good top can do a lot to minimize the discomfort also. Once you are into it, however, it can really take you away to new levels of pleasure. And as has been mentioned, the prostate when properly stimulated by the penis can provide an orgasm-like high.

[Rick Munroe]

Whether I'm topping or bottoming, what turns me on is knowing that I'm making my partner feel good. Sometimes it feels incredibly good to get fucked and sometimes it hurts...but if I know the top is getting off on my ass, I'm very happy. The same goes for when I am a top...I'm not like some tops who don't care if they're hurting you & just want to use you to make themselves cum (although as a bottom, that's hot when someone does that to me)...I really get into pleasuring the bottom. Of course, I suppose, the ideal situation is two greedy (safe) pigs getting what they can out of each other. Yum!

[+ Charlie]

For me, the pleasure in bottoming is mostly psychological: 95% of the time I find it physically uncomfortable (but, O! that other 5%). Since I think most sexual excitement and satisfaction is in the head anyway, I put up with the physical pain and just keep reminding myself that I am giving pleasure to someone whom I want to please.

[Guest Kevin 2]

<Being completely filled by your partner and watching him thrust (if you are lying on your back) is incredibly sensual. Bottoming does take some time to become pleasurable, however, and until you can learn to relax your muscle may be actually quite painful at first. A good top can do a lot to minimize the discomfort also.>

AMEN!

I find that bottoming can be pleasurable most of the time as long as the guy is SLOW to enter and then turns the pace up. If you have a really tight hole put those fingers to work first. Also position can make a big difference!

[Guest cmp]

Thanks all for your valuable contribution to the curriculum of HooBoy's Sex Academy.

[vers7]

Everyone has different physical feelings, of course. For me, sometimes I'm in the mood to be a top and sometimes a bottom. The orgasm of each is different. And it's very difficult to describe the difference. Everyone has experienced the orgasm caused solely by penile stimulation. The orgasm that I (and many bottoms) feel while being fucked is in some sense less urgent and intense, but on the other hand, feels like it's coming from a deeper place and more inclusive of the entire body and not just the genital. I'm not sure that that's very clear.

[Guest BenDover]

Wait a minute, wait a minute. We're not done talking about the exquisite ecstacies of enveloping a man's penis with the greatest circular muscles known to man. I agree, so very much is psychological -- knowing that another wants to be there, the very center and core of his partner -- wanting a closeness that defies the limits of the body. The very sphincter is erotically charged when properly stimulated. The thighs unfold with welcome almost involuntarily. The penetration, slow and deliberate, appreciating the opening process and the heat and strength of that O. The pain, merged in the mind with perhaps fear, desire, need, dare I say even love. The full connection, the internal massage, the hidden walnut prodded and manipulated, the rocking, the melding of minds and bodies into exotic jungle vines, twining in sweet lubriciousness, salty and pungent tastes and odors, the dance of hip bones and femurs wrapped in grasping, the grinding scratch of pubic hair into tender asslips. The bottom, reached, extended beyond imagined limits, no longer thought, no longer intention, no longer control, but beastial, primitive and raw. From deep, two become one to float, to languish, to expel and expire.

Damn, I love getting fucked.}>

[vers7]

OH MY, BENDOVER!! It's hard to imagine that I and Bendover described the same incident. I like Bendover's description much better than my somewhat overly analytical and clinical description. I wish I were as poetic.

[ready182]

cmp,

 

May I suggest that learning starts at home. Next time you're pleasuring yourself, try a well-lubed finger. Insert it and hold still at first, until you get used to it. Then wiggle it. By now, either you get it or you don't.

 

If by chance you "get it", in time you'll want to move on to bigger and better things

[Guest BenDover]

I just noticed something that I find incredibly pleasing. My last post in this thread and on this site was my ONE HUNDRETH post. And it was on my very most favoritist subject, no less!!! What synchronicity, what joy, what fun!!

Thanks guys, for tolerating my fantasies and craziness, thoughts and ideas. Hooboy, you're great, Moderators, I luv ya', posters, you guys rock.

[Guest]

I have a theory. The theory is that every person, be he man, woman, transexual, gay, straight, what have you, has the potential for both bottom and top pleasure. In other words, I think that everybody wants to be a part of his/her partner and have his/her partner be a part of him/her. The issue seems obvious for women. Most reach orgasm by being stimulated both inside the vagina and via the clitoris. I think that with men, since we don't have vaginas, the issue is to overcome the idea that having something put inside your anus is painful or distasteful.

Most guys probably learn orgasm first from topping. It's an obvious source of pleasure. For me and some friends, bottoming is an aquired source of pleasure. We first had our partners our ourselves inserting thin objects into the anus during sex or masturbation. Having both sides stimulated intensifies the orgasm. As men learn to associate anal stimulation with pleasure, the rectal muscles relax more, and larger objects, i.e. penises, can be inserted for even more pleasure. Eventually, one can feel the intense pleasure from being one with one's partner, whichever the direction.

Of course, most heterosexual men will never even attempt to explore their receptive side, which is a shame, I suppose. Gay men have it best, I suppose, since we can totally have it both ways. Anybody else feel this way?

[Will]

Ben, I hope you write porn on the side. Hell, prose like that qualifies as "Art," which I suppose makes it erotic rather than pornographic.

 

More! More!! More!!!

[Guest cmp]

Wow. Give me a sec to regain my breath. BenD, how did you know I loved erotic stories? Please post more of that stuff.

 

Thanks folks for Bottomology 101. I was interested in the theoretical lecture, not the Lab (maybe Unicorn is right and I am too straight for that). I am not going to do it, I only wanted to understand it. While the emotional aspects of intimacy are obvious, I wanted to understand the "mechanics" of the stimulation. I suppose the "bottomline" on that level must be the joystick hitting the prostate. Is the stimulation so powerful as to induce the explosion? I only felt something unpleasant when a doc checked my prostate, but then everyone is different.

 

In case someone finds it weird that I should ask about things that I don't like to do, I am indeed like that, weird or not: I only like to do a few things when it cums to sex, but I love to *hear* about much more than I am willing to do. (Am I alone to feel that way?) That's one reason why I like erotic stories so much and I would love to meet an escort who would tell me (while cuddled up tightly) about their experience or fantasies.

 

Sorry for digressing. Thanks y'all for your input.

[Guest WetDream]

RE: Never say never, CMP

 

"I am not going to do it, I only wanted to understand it."

 

In my younger years when lots of guys wanted to top me I would have none of it. I had tried it, it hurt and I was not interested at all. Several years ago (ah, the golden years!) my curiosity overcame my earlier objections. How could all of those people who loved getting screwed be wrong. I decided to explore and, much to my surprise, found a new thrill...and it wasn't on Blueberry Hill. All it took was a certain determination on my part and lots and lots of patience from some escorts who helped me discover a new area of sexual pleasure. I still like doing all of those things I've enjoyed over the years but now have a new quiver in my bow (sorry about the metaphore). And the tops seem to be surprised to find such a nice tight butt in someone my age. Wasn't it Auntie Mame who kept saying, "EXPLORE!"

[Guest bottomboykk]

>I only felt something unpleasant when a doc checked my prostate, but then everyone is different.

 

It's not at all the same thing. Doctors are notorious for being awful at prostate exams. I'm a confirmed bottom, but I've never had a prostate exam that gave me any pleasure; in fact, most of time, it was very unpleasant, bordering on painful, because the doctors tend to jab at it in such a way that is not at all conducive to sexual pleasure.

 

Of course, this hasn't had any effect on my long-held fantasy of a doctor exam turning into a hot sex session! }>

[+ deej]

RE: Never say never, CMP

 

>Wasn't it Auntie Mame who kept saying, "EXPLORE!"

 

I don't remember that line, but it would fit. My favorite Mame-ism:

 

"Life is a banquet and most poor bastards are starving to death."

[Guest WetDream]

RE: Mame

 

And don't forget the first line of her "autobiography": How bleak was my puberty in Buffalo.

[CT Dick]

> I wanted to understand the

>"mechanics" of the stimulation. I suppose the "bottomline"

>on that level must be the joystick hitting the prostate.

 

Yes, but it is not all. The actual penetration of the sphincter is a turn-on, too. Having a man repeatedly jab in just an inch can push me over the top.

 

 

>Is the stimulation so powerful as to induce the explosion?

 

It can be and there is little as satisfying as a no-hands orgasm.}>

 

Dick

[Guest happyguy]

Hey guys,

As you know I am new to all this, and a somewhat irregular participant/observer. I really enjoy some of your discussions, and got to thinking: why isn't the message center considering offering degrees, with specializations in areas such as bottomology, topology, and who knows what else. All you charter members could give the courses .......... and the exams!

[jacobno]

there's always the language degree for bottomese.

lets practice eee, eee, OhMyGod, ahhh harder, oh shit

 

or for toppipinno

 

unf unf, ugh, om my god, yeah bitch, oh shit

 

based on some similaritied we've concluded that these languages come form the same source, versatiliando.

 

:-p

[Guest cmp]

Hi Happy. Me too: I enjoy studying at this institution. While I may have invented the term Bottomology, someone beat us to Topology and stole the term from us to represent a very special branch of Math (a cousin to Graph Theory) that deals with fun games such as walking the brigdes in Koenigsberg, Moebius strips, coloring the countries on a map, and so on. This may be unfair, as topping is probably much older than Math. I presume you don't have to be an endowed top to become a topologist. A colleague of mine (straight until proved otherwise) ran a Google search the other day for a utility called 'top' (used for monitoring the top resource consuming processes running on the system) and he got a long list of gay sites...

[ted]

Yes indeed, I just had my annual physical, and that part is no fun, however a certain escort did essentially the same thing a few weeks ago with quite different results. :9 I'm booked for a repeat with the escort in 2 weeks.

[adriano46]

cmp,

 

I have read through this interesting thread, as it approaches some questions and gives answers to questions which I have had for years.

 

I am very much like you: neither top nor bottom. For me and an escort to hit it off, if he kisses and cuddles, we are fine; if he is hung and has great oral sklls, better; and if he enjoys mutual rimming... I'll rewrite my insurance policy. But as for topping/bottoming? Most of the time it never occurs.

 

Aside from the pain factor for me when I have ever attempted bottoming, I find there are other issues too.

 

CLEANLINESS: Generally (to contribute to another thread simultaneously) I douche, clean, wash, or use an enema when preparing for any date with a guy (this, despite the fact that I have no intention of rolling over). I figure, "He's clean, why not me?" For this reason, I do not like dates where I go to the escort's place... as I have no time for that last minute wipe before there is a knock at the door. Also I am more than happy to let any escort use the facilities before we get into it, and unfortunately when doing "in" calls, the escorts might forget this little courtesy to the client too. In fact, once, I had to walk the last few blocks to a place, on a warm day, and by the time I was there, would have loved a shower FIRST, but it was not available, and felt the whole experience a bit off-putting.

 

CONDOMS: Obviously anal sex demands condoms (for most) and I have a problem in that they seem to turn me off (any others find this?) Sometimes its hard to find the right size, and in the heat of the moment, too damn distracting pausing to get all the mechanics together and then get back to it. I am constantly in awe of escorts who can get themselves convered in a matter of seconds, but for most of us, it is a good two or more minutes of ripping open the packet carefully, unrolling, rolling on, covering with lubricant, getting hard(er) again, and then... back to where we left off...

 

OPENING TIGHT SPACES: his too takes time and effort. When one is on a quickie date (1 hour) I find it takes from more pleasurable time just priming the space for anal... so prefer foregoing it to have more time for other more pleasurable things. Overnights are something else. To be honest, cmp, if I am intrigued with the whole top/bottom scene, I usually hire two (one a confirmed VERSATILE top, one a confirmed bottom) and play voyeur (joining in too along the way with the top - which is why I prefer he is versatile).