Protocol in Negotiating Escort Fees

[Guest IM_Moore]

There is no protocol, just ask if he can do any better or let him know that is more than you're able to pay. Then listen to the silence before he says "OK what about X" or he will say " nope can't do it." You have nothing to lose, there should be no ego in negotiating. Anybody that feels the vast majority of escorts don't negotiate are not of this world :7

[Guest mellowdad]

FOR ESCORTS & CLIENTS: As a client, I'm wondering about how and when it's best to ask for fee information, how best to tie this to explaining what I most value, and about the experiences of others in the fees-and-discussing-them department. In hiring guys, I'm usually just as interested in them as people as I am in sex. Sexual chemistry is unpredictable no matter how much data is exchanged beforehand. But other people's stories are always fascinating. My favorite scenario is an evening: dinner in a place the escort chooses--if he knows the area better than I--followed by a couple of hours of playtime. However, with some hourly rates, this arrangement is way out of my reach. Is it appropriate and not insulting to propose a package fee? :-)

[Guest MattAdams]

For established escorts I don't usually recommend negotiating rates, but the business has changed a lot.

 

1. There are a number of new escorts that really have very little idea of what market rates are or think they should charge menu prices. It is best to just ask them what they charge for what you like to do and see what they say.

2. There is an increase in the number of escorts having people write in their reviews a rate that is much higher than what they charge most clients. If you feel the rate is high, cut it down and see what they say. Anyone misquoting their normal rate is looking to negotiate anyway.

3. It has always been fair game to ask someone what their rate is for massage and some escorts do a lot of massage work. Escorts that do massage work tend to have steadier incomes.

 

For the established and reputable escorts that keep their rates the same for everyone my advice is unchanged. Stick to your rate and refer the price conscious client to a friend that would appreciate the business.

[Guest pickwick]

>2. There is an increase in the number of escorts having

>people write in their reviews a rate that is much higher

>than what they charge most clients.

 

So you are telling us that escorts are not only getting clients to write reviews about them but are getting them to include information in the reviews that they know is false. Well, I suppose it was only a matter of time. I thought IM Moore's recent post (see "Escorts and the Internet") suggesting that almost none of the reviews here can be relied upon was an exaggeration. I owe him an apology.

[Guest Traveler]

I must confess, I've had escorts give me a price break, with the caveat "If I only make you pay X, don't say so on the review you write."

[NY Observer]

My feelings on negotiating are as follows:

 

Since this is a mutually agreed upon endeavor, it's fine to negotiate. Of course, if you do choose to negotiate, the guy you are seeing may not be as into things as if you pay his full fare. Sometimes this bickering sets a bad tone on the experience, even though it saves you some money.

 

I personally won't pay more than 200 dollars an hour for anyone. I feel that is plenty and if a guy charges more than that, I don't even bother reading his review, I don't want to have to negotiate.

 

As for the package deal arrangement, I frequently will offer to take the guy I select to dinner, either before or after our time together (I let him decide at the end of the date, if we've decided to go afterwards, that way, if he doesn't want to be with me, no hard feelings either way). I make it clear, having been burnt before, that this time is totally optional, that it won't have an impact on whether or not I'll hire him, and that that the time will be off the clock. I think it's a good deal, getting a nice free meal, one does have to eat and I don't think my company is usually that bad.

[HooBoy]

I have dined with NYO and I can attest that he

 

1. knows good restuarants

2. has table manners

3. is fun to be with.

 

Get him to take you to the Gaiety. He knows everyone and knows the dish! NYO is a fun date.

 

He's cute and I didn't charge him a cent. I was just happy to be in his company. Plus, he shells out the tips for the boys so I saved my $$ cause I wasn't next to the stage. :-)

 

HooBoy

[Matt_Vancouver]

I agree NYO is a fun date, and he's got these eyes... how can one describe them??? hmmmmmmmmmmmmm big, brown, beautiful.

He does know the best restaurants in NY, and actaully on Vancouver island too: ) hmmmm he gets around.

hugs to you CE from your SP forever: )

Matt(speaks in code)

[Guest man2man4u40]

I don't know if the term negotiating quite fits here.

 

I purposely have hourly rates and flat fee rates (evening 3-4hrs)which work out to be a lot lower than the strict hourly rate. Charging a client full price to have dinner with you (when he pays the bill to boot) is gouging in my book.

 

The "porn star" escorts can probably get the hourly rate no matter what but I think you'll find by reading reviews that most escorts are reasonable when it comes to pricing an evening.

 

Cheers

 

--Jack

[Guest Merlin]

If you want him for more than an hour it is best to tell him what you want, e.g., dinner plus two hours, top or bottom, etc before you ask him the fee. He will probably give you a package rate. But if you ask him his rate and then tell him you want dinner plus two hours, he may be reluctant to back down from his previously stated rate. If you like to negotiate remember that negotiation is a contest of sorts. He may be less fun if loses the negotiation.

[Guest Joey Ciccone]

>one does have to eat and I don't think my company is usually that bad.<

 

Your company was great when I had dinner with you, NYO, as was the food. Hitting the Gaiety of course was a blast as well. We must do it again.

[Guest Kenny]

NY Observer wrote:

"I personally won't pay more than 200 dollars an hour for anyone. I feel that is plenty and if a guy charges more than that, I don't even bother reading his review, I don't want to have to negotiate"

Interesting comment from him. He reviews dancers at the Gaiety and has many interesting observations on most of them. I don't know if he has ever hired any of them but if he has, he undoubtely has "negotiated" their fee. Most, if not all dancers at the Gaiety quote a fee of at least $250 for an encounter. Is it to be assumed that they will indeed lower their fee OR does NY Observer get a discount because of who he is?

I have no idea who he is but I was at the Gaiety last Sat night and kept wondering WHO he was (was he the clown in the costume and huge glasses who couldn't sit still for more than 5 minutes)? ;)

[Guest BrandenMcClain]

Branden McClain (aka Christopher) Houston's Sweetheart

As an escort, I feel that the it is best to deal with all fee information up front. Money issues always seem to be an uncomfortable subject with most people. The thing that has to be remembered is that this is a buisness, and it is not personel. However at the end of all buisness ventures both parties can still be friends. I always say "Lets get all the buisness out of the way and then the only thing left to concentrate on is sharing a wonderful time together."

This way as an escort, I am not left wondering when, where, if, or how much I will be paid for my services. On negotiating, I feel that this is something that is not necessarily out of line, but can be abused often. My rates are set up for first time visits with clients, which I see as an interview for both people envolved. I have set rates that to me seem very fare, you can see what I have set up at [http://www.brandenmcclain.com/rates.htm] After developing a relationship with a client, I am always willing to make arrangements that best meet what we want out of our time together. For example, if I see a client on a regular basis I am not going to charge them my regular hourly fee just to take me to a nice dinner. My thought on this entire matter is that it is always best to be honest, upfront, and willing to work together to insure a strong relationship that will stand up to any issue that is brought before either parties involved.

[+ Charlie]

I have never been able to understand why anyone would want to eat dinner just before a hot sex scene.

[+ Lucky]

It loosens the mouth.....

[+ deej]

>Hitting the Gaiety of course was a blast as

>well. We must do it again.

 

What's this? Do you hit strip clubs with all your clients? :9

[Guest lipstick]

Guys,

 

This is my limited experience with fees. It probably works best for guys who, like me, don't have as much experience with this as some of the other folks.

 

For the first encounter with a new escort, I would only go for an hour or two, just to see if there is the correct chemistry. Two hours

is probably ideal, as I think you can tell a lot about each other in both the conversation and sex departments. I find that if the conversation (regardless of the sex) is just one-sided, that to me is not a good sign about overall chemistry. But that is just me!

 

If there are good pointers, then, and only then, would I consider overnighters or regular get-togethers.

 

For the overnighter, I make it a point to always pay for dinner, as well as breakfast, if that works into the escort's schedule. I think part of this is the get-and-take, especially if the two guys do get to know each other better and they do enjoy the time together.

 

I have found that some escorts will "grandfather" their fees,

so if nothing else, there's the inflationary hedge, as it were.

 

I don't think much of trying negotiate down the escort; my own

experience is that the truly "top escort" (as Matt Adams so nicely characterizes them) really does put out more than what his fees cover.

 

There are several guys that I would love to get together with, but the fact is, their rates are too high for me. So I go with the ones that fit my budget.

 

I think most guys do the same thing; it's like any other commodity:

you go for what you can afford. I like to kid my regular escort that he's funded for only so many evenings/hours/occasions, then it's back to more financial planning. But you know, I always manage to come up with the bucks somewhere.

 

Thanks.

[Guest JT]

>What's this? Do you hit strip clubs with all your clients?

>:9

 

Not sure about that. But I'm sure Joey strip with/for all his clients! }> Oh yeah, show us more of that yummy body, Joey!

 

JT

[Guest JT]

RE: Counter-Protocol in Negotiating Escort Fees

 

Hi Joey,

 

Is that baseball bat for clients who try to negotiate fees? Hehehe...

 

JT