Rent Ethan

[rentingdad]

http://www.rentethan.com

 

I saw this guy posted in the travel section.

 

Has anyone been to his website? My god talk about unsafe sex....and then the obvious question is has anyone hired him - or I suppose the question is would anyone ADMIT to hiring him?

[Ethan]

>http://www.rentethan.com

>

>I saw this guy posted in the travel section.

>

Totally >Has anyone been to his website? My god talk about unsafe

>sex....and then the obvious question is has anyone hired him -

>or I suppose the question is would anyone ADMIT to hiring

>him?

 

Dear Sir. I am Ethan and I own and manage rentEthan.com. Let me begin by saying there is no need to be disrespectful. I am CERTAIN that if I were going to give my opinion of you, which I am not, I would do so with a little more respect, tact, class, and a touch of humanity, oh and go light on the bitchiness. I appreciate peoples thoughts and opinions because it allows me ways to improve my services and find ways to do things a little bit better. The important thing to me is to remember that we are all human, all have interests, turn ons & turn offs, etc.. and its okay for them to be different. We come

from an oppressed society as a whole and should celebrate our differences. I clearly have a target market and it clearly isn't everyone. If I was targeting the wrong market, neither the client nor myself would enjoy our encounters. I do however have great clients and am booked most of the time. Are my clients like you? Some maybe, they just don't talk about it so openly. Others however range from CEO's to Congressmen, to members of the Clergy to baggers at your local supermarket. Now if you must degrade me (when we have never met and in fact I am on a mission to help you as the "collective client") that is fine but you leave my clients out of this. No hard feelings, let's just keep it respectful.

 

All the best,

 

Ethan King

[seaboy4hire]

Very well stated and polite Ethan.

 

Hugs,

Greg

seaboy4hire@yahoo.com

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Tentative travel cities 2008: Denver, MSP, SF, Chicago, NYC.

[Ethan]

Thank you Greg!! I am coming to Seattle this month so I will be in touch. Hope you are well.

 

Ethan :-)

[rentingdad]

Oh boy - this is too easy!

 

 

"The important thing to me is to remember that we are all human, all have interests, turn ons & turn offs, etc.. and its okay for them to be different." Yes we are all human Ethan - and we all have different tastes - however for you to so blatantly and openly describe your "plans" on your website as "unsafe" encounters should be a crime - and in some states it actually is.

 

"We come from an oppressed society as a whole and should celebrate our differences. I clearly have a target market and it clearly isn't everyone." Based on your "plans" I'd say your client list is probably shrinking by the day based purely up sickness and death.

 

"Others however range from CEO's to Congressmen, to members of the Clergy to baggers at your local supermarket." Why is it that EVERY two-bit escort wants us to believe that they are being hired by The President of the United States, Tom Cruise and the Pope? Member of Congress? Members of the Clergy? Do you think mentioning those typs of clients is going to get more folks to hire you? "Oh man I'm hiring the guy who fucks Congressman ____ without a condom - I'm so lucky!"

 

Now if you must degrade me (when we have never met and in fact I am on a mission to help you as the "collective client") that is fine but you leave my clients out of this. No hard feelings, let's just keep it respectful.:-)

 

After reading the three reviews you have on this site I'd say they sound very similar to the way you write Ethan -- "I'm a powerful LA attorney" -- "Fine Dining Establishments" -- who talks like that?

 

Have some respect for yourself and for your clients because based on the website you have it's clear that you don't respect either.

[JT Brooklyn]

Renting..Very well said. We all do have choice's whether or not to hangout with Safe or Unsafe "Working Guys'. "Sexual Gratification" has absolutely Nothing to do with what someone does for a Living!

 

I'm sure Ads that read or even seem to suggest "Unsafe Practices" are for a certain kind of Clientele! The Old Saying "Birds of a Feather" comes to mind! LOL ;-)

[Ethan]

THANK YOU JT FOR BEING OPTIMISTIC AND FAIR. NOW ALLOW US TO DISECT BIGDADDYS PURE IGNORANCE.

 

YOU SAID:

"Yes we are all human Ethan - and we all have different tastes - however for you to so blatantly and openly describe your "plans" on your website as "unsafe" encounters should be a crime - and in some states it actually is."

 

REALITY: I CAN PUBLISH ANY MATERIAL THAT I DESIRE ON MY WEBSITE, THAT I PURCHASED, I OWN, AND OF WHICH I PAY FOR THE HOSTING ANNUALLY. TO THE FACT THAT I AM "BLATANTLY" EXHIBITING UNSAFE SEX PRACTICES JUST GOES TO SHOW ME THAT YOU NEED TO LEARN TO READ. YEAH, THAT FIRST PAGE, THE ONE WHERE YOU HAVE TO CLICK "CUM INSIDE" IN ORDER TO GET TO MY SITE...YEAH THE LITTLE PRINT ABOVE THAT TELLS YOU SPECIFICALLY THAT YOU WILL FIND BAREBACK SEXUAL CONTENT AND IT ALSO STATES IF YOU DONT AGREE TO ALL THE CONDITIONS, TO CLICK "PULL OUT." ONE OF THE CONDITIONS IS THAT YOU ARENT OFFENDED BY THE DESCRIBED MATERIAL. SO I SUPPOSE I AM SORRY FOR BEING SO "IN YOUR FACE," ABOUT MY SEXUAL PREFERENCES & I SUPPOSE YOU WOULD SUGGEST THAT LYING WOULD BE A MUCH MORE APPROPRIATE DECISION. AND WHO HAS INTEGRITY ISSUES????? OH AND BY THE WAY, THE INTERNET IS NOT POLICED BY LAW ENFORCEMENT BUT RATHER THE COURT SYSTEM AND THERE IS NO SINGLE GOVERNING BODY WHICH CAN "SENSOR" WHAT IS PUBLISHED. THE COURTS MAKE PRECEDENTS OUT OF THE PUBLISHING OF ILLEGAL ACTIVITIES LIKE CHILD PORN, OF WHICH IS NOT ON MY SITE OR DRUGS, ALSO WHICH IS NOT ON MY SITE. THE CONTENT WITHIN MY SITE IS BETWEEN CONSENTING ADULTS AND IF YOU WERE OFFENDED BY THE MATERIAL YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE ENTERED THE SITE. KNOW YOUR FACTS BECAUSE YOUR IGNORANCE SCORE CONTINUES TO INCREASE. STATES WHICH HAVE SODOMY LAWS I SUPPOSE COULD GO AFTER THE SITE IN STATE COURT BUT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WOULD SHUT US ALL DOWN AND WOULD NEVER BE UPHELD IN SUPREME COURT BECAUSE "SENSORSHIP" SUCKS AND MOST OF THE COUNTRY WOULD AGREE. KNOW YOUR FACTS BEFORE YOU START WITH ME BIGDADDY.

 

YOU SAID:

Based on your "plans" I'd say your client list is probably shrinking by the day based purely up sickness and death.

 

REALITY: I DON'T OUTLINE ANY "PLANS" ON MY SITE WHATSOEVER. THE ONLY PLANS ARE ON MY NON-PROFIT SITE THAT OUTLINES THE PROJECTS, TOOLS, RESOURCES, ETC THAT WE WILL HAVE AVAILABLE TO HELP ESCORTS STRAIGHTEN OUT THEIR LIVES WHEN THEY LOSE THEIR WAY(I.E. DRUG REHAB, COUNSELING SERVICES, HOUSING REFERRALS, GOVERNMENT AGENCY ASSISTANCE, ESCORT LOCATOR PROGRAM TO KEEP TABS ON TRAVELING ESCORTS FOR THEIR SAFETY), COACHING ON BEING A BETTER ESCORTS (I.E. HOW TO PREVENT GETTING STUCK WHEN TRAVELING, HOW TO TREAT CLIENTS, HOW TO HAVE INTEGRITY IN THE INDUSTRY). WHAT KILLS ME BIGDADDY IS THAT YOU ACT LIKE I AM DOING THIS BECAUSE I WANT TO OR I GET SOMETHING FROM IT. I DONT--IN FACT IT IS A HORRIBLE TIME IN MY CAREER (WHICH IS BOOMING) TO HEAD UP THIS PROJECT. HOWEVER, I THINK YOU GUYS DONT GET THE TREATMENT THAT AS A CLIENT IN ANY INDUSTRY SHOULD RECEIVE. AS FAR AS MY "SHRINKING" CLIENT LIST, THAT COULDN'T BE FARTHER FROM THE TRUTH. IN FACT IT IS GROWING MONTH OVER MONTH FOR 13 MONTHS STRAIGHT. THIS JUST UPS YOUR IGNORANCE SCORE BECAUSE IT SAYS YOU ARE #1 NOT EDUCATED IN MODERN MEDICINE & #2 REJECT THE REALITY THAT MOST PEOPLE IN THEIR LIVES HAVE UNPROTECTED SEX AT SOME POINT. DENIAL IS A POWERFUL TOOL, BUT DOESN'T BID WELL AGAINST FACTS.

 

 

YOU SAID:

After reading the three reviews you have on this site I'd say they sound very similar to the way you write Ethan -- "I'm a powerful LA attorney" -- "Fine Dining Establishments" -- who talks like that?

 

REALITY: YOU ARE PUSHING IT NOW. TO SUGGEST THAT I WOULD SAY "IM A POWERFUL LA ATTORNEY" OR "FINE DINING ESTABLISHMENT" OR FURTHER INSINUATE THAT I WROTE MY REVIEWS IS AGAIN SHOWING YOUR IGNORANCE. FIRST OF ALL HE IS AN ATTORNEY AND IS POMPOUS AND I TELL HIM THAT EVERY TIME I SEE HIM. HE DOES SPEAK THAT WAY. JUST BECAUSE YOU FEEL LEFT OUT IN THE DARK, AND WAY OUT OF YOUR LEAGUE IN THE EDUCATION RING AND THE ABILITY TO READ, WRITE AND SPEAK PROPER ENGLISH DON'T

MAKE FALSE ACCUSATIONS THAT CAN BLOW UP IN YOUR FACE. I CAN CONTACT THESE CLIENTS AT ANY TIME AND ARRANGE A MEETING WITH YOU IF YOU SO DESIRE. NOT ONLY DO YOU OFFEND ME, YOU OFFEND THESE SITES THAT I AM CERTAIN HAVE A SYSTEM IN PLACE TO VERIFY IDENTITY. IF THEY DIDN'T AND WITH AS SHADY AS THIS BUSINESS IS, PEOPLE WOULD ACTUALLY WRITE THEIR REVIEWS. DO I FIND IT SURPRISING THAT THE 3, YES ONLY 3 OUT OF HOW MANY HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF CLIENTS THAT I HAVE, WROTE REVIEWS HAPPEN TO BE MORE EDUCATED CLIENTS......NO IT DOESN'T SURPRISE ME IN THE LEAST. SO WHILE I AM DEDICATING MY TIME TO IMPROVING SERVICE THAT THE COLLECTIVE CLIENT GETS (YES EVEN SELF LOATHING, IGNORANT & MISERABLE INDIVIDUALS LIKE YOURSELF) YOU ARE MAKING ABSURB ACCUSATIONS, SPREADING BITTERNESS, AND POSTING ADS SIR THAT FRANKLY MAKE YOU LOOK F LIKE AN ASS.

 

 

YOU SAID:

 

Have some respect for yourself and for your clients because based on the website you have it's clear that you don't respect either.

 

REALITY: I DO HAVE RESPECT FOR MYSELF....HENSE DEFENDING MYSELF AND MY WEBSITE AGAINST IGNORANT AND MISERABLE PEOPLE LIKE YOU. FRANKLY, IF MY WEBSITE PUSHES PEOPLE LIKE YOU AWAY FROM ME THEN THANK GOD I AM SO HONEST BECAUSE IF I HAD TO DEAL WITH CLIENTS LIKE YOU, I WOULD KNOW IT WAS TIME TO RETIRE.

 

 

:9 :9

[rentingdad]

Oh Miss Ethan!

 

How I love that it only takes maybe 2 posts and about 18 hours for you to totally lose your "respectful" tone and go for the jugular. You're wonderful and deserve everything that you're getting and going to get in life.

 

You go girl!

[Ethan]

Thank you. Click.

[Okliehomo]

In all my years on this site, I have seen LOTS of stupid and truly hateful exchanges. But this particular thread takes the cake. I logged onto Ethan's website, just to see what all the fuss was about. Not than I have ever been even slightly into Ethan. I've seen his ads and his pics and many thanks, no. More so, now than EVER...And not that I have agreed in the past with much that rentingdad has had to say, either. But this time. Jesus Christ.

 

"Ethan Gets Bred"...."Ethan Gets Bred by Three Guys" etc..etc..and cum all over and dripping out of his asshole. I get that that is the new deal and everbody can live on the cocktail for years and die young and pretty...I even remember way back to what it felt like to fuck and get fucked and really feel it....But times have changed in a big way..

 

I can still see that for some fucking crazy and ignorant reason, this is still sexy to some. But you know, it just demeans us all....and reinforces all the self loathing sterotypes that some of us have tried so hard to live down. It is an insult to all of us who lived through it the first time. And more of one to those who weren't so lucky... They didn't know they were in danger, but dammit, these guys do. The danger may be more manageable but it is still there.

 

Come on. Can we please just stop giving them yet another reason to hate us? One more reinforcement of how self destructive and sick they think that we are? What an abomination? Their words, not mine.

 

We are gay men, for God's sake. We are smarter and funnier and more stylish than they will ever hope to be.

 

Just put on a fucking condom when you fuck and don't hire anyone that won't or hasn't done the same. Please quit killing yourselves and feeding their fire.

 

Okie

[Guest ncm2169]

Bravo Okie!!!!! :* :*

[raulgmanzo]

Oklie wrote:

>Just put on a fucking condom when you fuck and don't hire

>anyone that won't or hasn't done the same.

 

I agree. Condom use should be automatic like using a seatbelt.

 

I don't think that anyone who doesn't use a seatbelt is necessarily an idiot. And I admit that there may be extenuating circumstances in the use of seatbelts or condoms. Perhaps one is in a long term monogamous relationship and doesn't use a condom. Perhaps one is so short or so tall that the seatbelt is ineffective or even more dangerous. Perhaps they have airbags, or some top secret AIDS vaccine. Perhaps.

 

BUT I think any professional driver who casually and publicly doesn't use a seatbelt, or any sex worker who promotes, capitalizes on or engages in barebacking is not being responsible. I do hold us escorts to a higher standard when it comes to health and sexual practices and knowledge of STDs.

 

Raul

[rentingdad]

Okie - thanks for your views.

 

Since I posted I've gotten about 6 private messages from guys on this board who think Ethan should be called out on his unsafe sex advertising and rampant disregard for himself and his clients.

 

Guess I stepped into a hornet's nest with this one (not that there is anything wrong with that) but I believe guys like this should be called on their shit and change their ways.

[Ethan]

Okie--

I totally appreciate your point of view. I feel it was well stated and based upon factual information or what you truly believe in your heart. You acknowledged that there are those of us out there that still do it and I respect the fact that you disagree with it. I even would go so far as to say I understand your very well stated point of view. The difference between you and BigDaddy, is that you stated yours from the heart. You based it on what you know to be true and your true feelings on the subject. You did not make false accusations, misrepresentations, nor introduce fictional bullshit to make your point. There was no venom in your posting at all. You responded to say "ENOUGH, here's the deal." Big Daddy did it to gossip, misrepresent, slander, and make up additions to what was already clear to anyone.....I bareback. I'm going to try and resist posting anything else about this. I've cleared the slanderous remarks, stated my case, and respect everyone's point of view.....even your's Big Daddy. Like I stated in my first posting, let's just keep it respectful--something we both failed at now. In closing I will add that the world is full of opinions and each is entitled to their own. I do however for the sake of integrity, think when one posts something it should be honest, factual, and respectful.

 

Thanks everyone--

 

Ethan

[JT Brooklyn]

It has always been my Opinion, to show respect for those unfortunate enough to have Passed from AIDS..The least we could do is to make sure their Sexual Experiences and what we have learned from them is not ignored!

 

Apparently Ignoring the "Reality" of Unsafe Sex is more important for the 30 Second Orgasm to some, mainly the Young! Personally I would rather LIVE for 30 Years more. IMHO of course.;-)

 

Two of the MOST Important Topics at least in my mind.."Rates and UnSafe Sex"..We always seem to get back to these 2 Topics. This is a Good thing to keep on everyones mind for an "Intelligent Decision" on both!

 

I see a couple of the High Priced "Self Appointed or Client Urged" (LOL)Studs are doing Bareback XXX and 1 or 2 are Raising Rates! Well D.Trump always says.."Cash is King"

;-)

[rentingdad]

Ethel honey this isn't The New York Times - this is an escort review site - lighten up and get with the program.

 

How can you ask anyone to address you "respectfully" when the very existence of your "rentethan" website shows you have NO respect for YOURSELF, YOUR CLIENTS (Poor Bastards)and anyone else.

[Rick Munroe]

>Come on. Can we please just stop giving them yet another

>reason to hate us? One more reinforcement of how self

>destructive and sick they think that we are? What an

>abomination? Their words, not mine.

 

I'm not a big fan of this victimized way of thinking. "They" who hate gay people will find any and every reason to do so (and "they" are usually gay, too, anyway). Do you think straight people all have protected sex and don't bareback? Do you think straight people don't get HIV and unwanted pregnancies? It's one thing (a good thing) to encourage other gay men to be safe, but to suggest that gay men need to play safe so that "they" won't hate "us" is just silly, IMO.

 

>We are gay men, for God's sake. We are smarter and funnier and

>more stylish than they will ever hope to be.

 

Oops, I feel like I just wandered over into the Carson Kressley thread by mistake. Gay men can be just as stupid and unfunny and out-of-style as anybody else. If we want to be treated equally, it's probably a good idea to stop perpetuating stereotypes (whether you perceive them as negative or positive) and stop making generalizations as if we're all the same. What we have in common with straight people is that we're all different, just like "them."

[rentingdad]

agreed Rick (I know I'm surprised too!) -- this is not about what people think about us - frankly who cares - this is about Ethan.

[Luv2play]

A straight 32 year old businesman here in Canada was sentenced yesterday for infecting over a dozen unsuspecting women, one as young as 16, by telling them he was "clean" and didn't need to wear a condom. He knew he had been infected with HIV for all the time he was dating these women. He was sentenced to 18 years in prison, the harshest sentence yet for this type of crime.

 

In the case of Ethan, I found it a bit disingenuous that he advertises himself as HIV-. He may by some miracle be so but he won't remain so for long given his activities, which he freely admits.

 

That aside, I have to say that at least he is honest with himself and his clients in all other respects of his willingness to bareback with any client. I would assume many of his clients are HIV+ and if Ethan is as well (despite his assurances to the contrary), then the only possible harm may be that he or his clients will acquire a drug-resistant type of HIV, which would shorten either of their lives considerably. I understand in the case of the Canadian man, he had acquired his HIV in Thailand and his was an unusual form of it (whatever that means).

 

I agree with Rick that gays don't need to be worried what straight people think of us. If there are bad apples amongst us, we are not any different from the straights, as the news reminds us every day.

:o

[Okliehomo]

Did you just call me silly? I think I just had a flashback to second grade. No, never mind, they were saying "Sissy..."

 

No, not me. Just the way that I think. Thanks so much.... For the record, I do not think of myself or gay men as victims. I do think that if we behave irresponsibly and I don't know, do the things that they accuse of us of doing like spreading AIDS etc we become the sterotype that they preach against. Why prove them right? And Hell, yes, straight people don't use condoms and have unwanted babies and get diseases...but however ignorant it is, this disease in this country is still thought of as a "gay" disease. Thank you, Ronald Reagan and the infusion of faith based politics.

 

Do I think that there is anything that we can really do to make the people that hate us change their minds? Nope..... "cause it's in the Bible.." Yee haw...... but I also think just as humans that we should have the respect for ourselves and others not to play with a loaded gun, so to speak. I am not saying keep it in the holster, just put the silencer on it.....Maybe I wouldn't care what "they" think so much if I lived in a more enlightened part of the country. Oops. There I go being a victim again.

 

And I don't care what you say about being smarter, funnier and more stylish. It ain't a stereotype, if it's true. I have met ALOT of gay men ...quite the sampling actually (ok, just the other two that live here...) but we are. At least, I prefer to think so. Silly me.

 

And I have met you and God knows, you and Derek certainly are. Well, the funny part anyway. Right, Miss Hayward?

 

The Oklahoma Sissy

[Rick Munroe]

>Did you just call me silly? I think I just had a flashback to

>second grade. No, never mind, they were saying

>"Sissy..."

 

OK, OK, I admit it; some gay men are funny and you qualify there. (Btw, if you're Cissy, can Derek and I be Buffy and Jody?)

 

>Maybe I wouldn't care what "they"

>think so much if I lived in a more enlightened part of the

>country.

 

You probably have a point. I'm sure -- no, I know -- that you hear stuff that I never will. I still say that we shouldn't blame gays who bareback for anti-gay bias. Remember, when the AIDS crisis first began, it was the gay community who raised awareness, promoted safe sex, distributed condoms, etc. Gay porn companies made it an industry standard to use condoms but straight porn is still almost all bare. I know that gay bareback porn is becoming more popular, but "they" are still the ones who promote unsafe sex almost all of the time and who show themselves to be totally irresponsible. Do you remember, a few years ago, the big scandal when some straight porn stars became HIV positive? From the L.A. Times: "...only two of 200 adult-film production companies in Southern California aimed at straight audiences were condoms-only. The rare use of condoms in straight porn unfortunately mirrors practice in real life..."

 

Btw, when you hear these comments that gays are spreading disease and not being safe, why don't you defend us as a community and use it as a teachable moment to educate and promote tolerance?

 

>And I don't care what you say about being smarter, funnier and

>more stylish. It ain't a stereotype, if it's true. I have met

>ALOT of gay men ...quite the sampling actually (ok, just the

>other two that live here...) but we are.

 

Well, isn't it true that most of the guys you meet are escorts you are flying in to see you? Of course, they're going to be well-groomed, personable, charming, etc. That really isn't a cross-section of all gay people, who exist in all careers, races, classes, regions, ages, etc. Just as there are black people who can't dance, Chinese people who can't add, Jewish people who can't find a good bargain, and Irish people who don't drink, there really are gay people who are dull, badly styled and not too bright. And as Stuart Smalley would say, "That's...OK."

 

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[Rick Munroe]

>agreed Rick (I know I'm surprised too!)

 

LOL

[Ethan]

Can you please show me where I advertise myself as negative? I always advertise as "ask me" because that is a personal question and one that I need not discuss with the entire world. And for the record EVERY client that I have EVER had is aware of my status, whether it be negative or positive, BEFORE having sex with me. Most of my clients have already drawn competent conclusions from my website.

 

Ethan:-)

[Rick Munroe]

>That aside, I have to say that at least he is honest with

>himself and his clients in all other respects of his

>willingness to bareback with any client.

 

Good point. It's just like with those escorts who state that they won't meet certain races, ages, etc. I mean, do you want them to be honest and upfront or not? Wouldn't you all rather know these things?

 

>I agree with Rick that gays don't need to be worried what

>straight people think of us. If there are bad apples amongst

>us, we are not any different from the straights, as the news

>reminds us every day.

 

And we hear about a lot more bad straight apples than gay ones! :o

[Ethan]

How can you ask anyone to address you "respectfully" when the very existence of your "rentethan" website shows you have NO respect for YOURSELF, YOUR CLIENTS (Poor Bastards)and anyone else.

 

 

 

 

Look CUNT, you are just mad because I don't respect you because you are a lonely, miserable piece of shit --- who makes up lies, then can't validate them, and then gets pissed off because I made you look stupid with FACTS. My clients are extremely lucky which is why my repeat client ratio is in the 90%. Yes my site is an escort site, you dumb bitch what do you think you are blogging on right now. How is that different?