No Fucking Way

[+ Charlie]

RE: No Fucking Way

 

This is usually more of a problem when engaging an escort through a service, since his employer tends to be very concerned about how much time is consumed. I actually used one agency that phoned me after exactly an hour to make sure the escort was ready to leave. I generally find that independent escorts I have patronized are pretty relaxed about time and play it by ear, no matter what the agreed time limit, unless they have another appointment to get ready for. My favorite was a guy who told me he makes only one appintment per night, for a flat fee, so that it can terminate whenever he and the client feel the time is right (I expected to stay two hours and stayed more than three).

 

 

An agency usually starts the clock ticking the moment the escort and client meet. On the other hand, with an independent I usually assume that if he wants to spend the first 45 minutes conversing, making drinks, preparing the bed, etc., we will spend more than 15 minutes having sex, and, unless he has another client waiting on the doorstep, I will have a few minutes to recover, get cleaned up and dressed, and do the courtesies of departure without the meter racking up extra hours.

[Guest Tampa Yankee]

RE: No Fucking Way

 

ROTFLMAO....

 

And it would be a bargain at twice the price...

[Guest Konga]

RE: No Fucking Way

 

>I can't imagine what value

>I could derive from having

>an escort think about me

>before we've even met.

 

So true. And if only every one else would follow suit and dispense with forethought and consideration for others, this world would be a much less bothersome place.

[Guest Konga]

Not just yet, thanks

 

>If The escort jerks me off in 10mins...I say Tough<

 

>>if the escort rushes to get me off in 10 minutes...THERE IS NO WAY any of us should tolerate being rushed to cumm in a short amount of time... <<

 

Aren't you fellas being a bit premature?

[Guest pickwick]

RE: No Fucking Way

 

>I WAS BEING SILLY.

 

 

Yes, that is what I said. It just isn't clear to me whether or not it was intentional on your part.

[Guest pickwick]

RE: No Fucking Way

 

>So true. And if only every

>one else would follow suit

>and dispense with forethought and

>consideration for others, this world

>would be a much less

>bothersome place.

 

In the ten years in which I have been hiring escorts, I have yet to see any evidence that any of them ever devoted even a moment's thought to me or my needs when we were not actually together or, in the vast majority of cases, even when we were together. Only a very small percentage of the people I have hired deserve to be mentioned in the same sentence with words like "consideration," "forethought," or "professionalism."

 

No one has any business saying that "most escorts" are this, that or the other since no one, including me, has anything other than anecdotal evidence to support such a statement. Like everyone else, I can only report what I have actually observed. But given what I have observed over a long period of time I would take a lot of convincing that things are otherwise.

[+ deej]

RE: No Fucking Way

 

>In the ten years in which

>I have been hiring escorts,

>I have yet to see

>any evidence that any of

>them ever devoted even a

>moment's thought to me or

>my needs when we were

>not actually together

 

Oh, I have. As I was booking one of the better-known pornstar/escorts once, I casually mentioned I was doing it as a 40th birthday present to myself.

 

As I was getting ready to leave (two weeks later, mind you), he jumped out of bed and said "wait a minute! I almost forgot something!" and left the room. He came back in the room with a birthday cake (OK, it was Hostess cupcakes) with lit candles, singing Happy Birthday.

 

The guy was on the road and took the time to go out and shop for that stuff in an unkown neighborhood. I was incredibly touched.

 

Many guys ask if I prefer a specific "look" (clothing) or underwear.

 

It's not all *that* uncommon for a little pre-thought to go into a "date".

[Godiva]

RE: No Fuckin Way

 

Back to the original thought of my posts... Although I do like what it has morphed into....:-) Any escorts fell free to comment.. When you advertise your rates of 200in or 300out, what does that actuall mean. Based on many reviews it seems like after the client cumms... but I think many believe it means an entire hour. Help me out boys ...

 

Thanks

Godiva

[Guest DCescortBOY]

RE: No Fuckin Way

 

with me, it means up to & including an hour.

i wouldn't TRY to leave before the hour is up, but if the client is happy & satisfied, and the session ends before the hour, that's ok.

if we go a bit over an hour, that's cool, too. i'm not going to demand another hour's fee over a couple of minutes.

[Guest cp8036]

RE: No Fucking Way

 

It was not intentional. Seems so absurd that could not ever be taken seriously.

[Guest spendlove]

RE: No Fucking Way

 

> Only a very small

>percentage of the people I

>have hired deserve to be

>mentioned in the same sentence

>with words like "consideration," "forethought,"

>or "professionalism."

>

 

I would go along with that assessment. The vast majority of those I have hired couldn't even be bothered to show up on time for an appointment made days in advance. Recently one showed up over an hour late. He couldn't believe it when I told him to hit the bricks. I was more tolerant of that kind of thing when I first started hiring but after being treated with a total lack of consideration by these guys a few dozen times I don't have patience for it anymore.

[Godiva]

RE: No Fucking Way

 

Spendlove..Thats what I love to hear..

MayBe the escort learned something...By the way did he threaten you at any time???

 

Godiva

[marc anthony]

RE: No Fucking Way

 

You are correct that we can only go by our own experiences. In my experience, there are a few escorts that I see that do think of me even when we are not together. Some send me emails just to say hi out of the clear blue sky. I have received birthday gifts from some. Some chat with me on AOL IM whenever they see me online. And others, who are some of my favorites, never communicate with me unless we are together. I think we have to remember that escorts are people too, and they are as different in personality as any of us. I am sure that some worry about their clients even when they are not together, and others don't.

[Guest spendlove]

RE: No Fucking Way

 

Godiva, he didn't threaten me. He made a big fuss and demanded I pay him for an hour, but I just laughed at him and closed the door in his face.

 

>I'm just curious. Do those "few

>dozen times" represent 1%, 10%,

>50% or 100% of the

>times you hired an escort?

>Since you said "the vast

>majority", I would assume it's

>at least over 50% of

>the times.

 

In my experience having an escort show up on time is very unusual. Having them indicate that they actually care about having kept you waiting is even more unusual. I guess a lot of them figure that men who hire escorts are so needy they'll put up with anything in order to get off. Maybe they're right about that in some cases. Not with me.

 

>Would you mind

>telling us where did you

>find your escorts (here? other

>websites? magazines? newspaper ads?)? Were

>they all from the same

>city?

 

I find them from the same sources as everyone else here, AOL, the major escort agency and independent escort websites, and this site. The guy I mentioned who was over an hour late has a very positive review on this site in which the reviewer claimed he showed up on time. Not for me he didn't. In fact, I have hired a number of people who have positive reviews here and found that my evaluation of them is usually different from the reviewer, which makes me wonder how many of the reviews here are real.

 

Statistically it's just very

>hard to fathom such

>a high frequency!

>

>JT

 

What do you base that statement on? Like the others said, there is no one here who can claim to know what most escorts do or don't do. You can only speak about your own experience and those of other people you know, and you have no idea whether that is representative of the whole universe of escorts or not.

[Guest JT]

RE: No Fucking Way

 

>>I'm just curious. Do those "few

>>dozen times" represent 1%, 10%,

>>50% or 100% of the

>>times you hired an escort?

>>Since you said "the vast

>>majority", I would assume it's

>>at least over 50% of

>>the times.

>

>In my experience having an escort

>show up on time is

>very unusual.

 

I know it's your own experience and that you care enough to tell us "the vast majority" of escorts show up late and it is very unusual for them to be on time. So is it more than 50% of the times that you hire escorts they arrive late? or is it over 50% of the escorts you hire arrive late? or both?

 

 

The guy

>I mentioned who was over

>an hour late has a

>very positive review on this

>site in which the reviewer

>claimed he showed up on

>time. Not for me

>he didn't. In fact,

>I have hired a number

>of people who have positive

>reviews here and found that

>my evaluation of them is

>usually different from the reviewer,

>which makes me wonder how

>many of the reviews here

>are real.

 

May I ask then, how many of the escorts you hired and

who have positive reviews here are in your opinions, would/should deserve positive reviews from you? Do they constitute the majority or the vast majority of your experiences? If your experiences were not positive, could there be contributing factors other than the escorts?

 

 

>What do you base that statement

>on?

 

I said that because you seem to be an experienced client. I would assume an experienced client who has had so many bad experiences (having the VAST MAJORITY of escorts he hired arrived late) would have found ways to reduce or minimize them. What is intriguing here is that you seem to suggest whatever the sources and locations from which you hired the escorts, the vast majority of them were late. So statistically you seemed to constantly and repeatedly pick out and hire the "latecomers" at a high frequency --- that's what I mean when I said "statistically it's just very hard to fathom such a high frequency!" I don't mean it can't happen or never happens.

 

 

Like the others

>said, there is no one

>here who can claim to

>know what most escorts do

>or don't do. You

>can only speak about your

>own experience and those of

>other people you know, and

>you have no idea whether

>that is representative of the

>whole universe of escorts or

>not.

 

I agree! :-)

 

JT

[Guest spendlove]

RE: No Fucking Way

 

So is it

>more than 50% of the

>times that you hire escorts

>they arrive late? or is

>it over 50% of the

>escorts you hire arrive late?

>or both?

 

Wouldn't the second alternative be the same as "both"?

 

>May I ask then, how many

>of the escorts you hired

>and

>who have positive reviews here are

>in your opinions, would/should deserve

>positive reviews from you?

 

Of those with whom I had positive experiences, all already have multiple positive reviews.

 

 

>Do

>they constitute the majority or

>the vast majority of your

>experiences?

 

Neither. The majority of the escorts I have hired have not been as the result of reviews here, although some were later reviewed here.

 

>If your experiences were

>not positive, could there be

>contributing factors other than the

>escorts?

 

It's their job to make the experience a positive one, and they should be able to do that unless the client is drunk or high or demands something that is dangerous or was ruled out by prior agreement. None of those applies to me. I agree with the poster who said chemistry has nothing to do with it.

 

>I would assume an experienced

>client who has had so

>many bad experiences (having the

>VAST MAJORITY of escorts he

>hired arrived late) would have

>found ways to reduce or

>minimize them.

 

That assumes that there ARE ways to reduce or minimize such experiences. What are they?

 

What is intriguing

>here is that you seem

>to suggest whatever the sources

>and locations from which you

>hired the escorts, the vast

>majority of them were late.

>So statistically you seemed to

>constantly and repeatedly pick out

>and hire the "latecomers" at

>a high frequency

 

Your statement is only valid if you assume that most escorts are not habitually late. If they are, then it would be statistically difficult to pick out a sigificant number who are NOT late.

 

Several people who have reviewed Premier escorts stated that this agency's escorts are usually late. I have also used Premier and have found this to be true. If it is generally true, then someone who often uses escorts from this agency would have a very high incidence of late escorts, for example.

[Godiva]

RE: No Fuckin Way

 

Has anyone here as a client, ever had an escort ruff them up or physically abuse them because you refused to pay the escort....

 

 

Any other escorts care to let us know what we are paying for when you state your rates..Per hour or When we cumm..Your answers would clear things up...

 

Godiva

[Guest DCescortBOY]

RE: No Fuckin Way

 

lady, you are truly obnoxious!

[Guest jeffOH]

RE: No Fuckin Way

 

Ok, here's the deal GODIVA. Not every client cares whether they get every single second of that hour. Many clients are ready to go as soon as they cum. It's the Quality not the Quantity. I don't understand this fixation on getting that whole hour. Seems

to me that's "watching the clock" and may detract from the good time you should be having.

 

I have some clients who are in and out in 15 mins. and some who hang out for an hour and a half. Every client is different. The escort I hire regularly is usually here a 1/2 hour to an hour.

It doesn't matter to me. I'd really prefer to say my rates are per "session", which could be anywhere from a 1/2hr to an 1 1/2

hours. If it's a client I don't care if I ever see again, I'll get out as quickly as possible after providing the bare minimum

services.

 

Jeff4hire@aol.com

[Guest pickwick]

RE: No Fuckin Way

 

>lady, you are truly obnoxious!

 

 

What is it you keep telling all the people who object to your posts? If you don't like them don't read them, problem solved. Isn't that it?

[Guest DCescortBOY]

RE: No Fuckin Way

 

i didn't say i don't like madame's posts.

i said he is obnoxious! for christ's sake, at least quote properly!

 

:-)

morning, all...

 

 

>>lady, you are truly obnoxious!

>

>

>What is it you keep telling

>all the people who object

>to your posts? If

>you don't like them don't

>read them, problem solved.

>Isn't that it?

[Guest pickwick]

RE: No Fuckin Way

 

>i didn't say i don't like

>madame's posts.

>i said he is obnoxious! for

>christ's sake, at least quote

>properly!

>

 

 

So you DO like his posts? Sorry I misinterpreted your remark. Most of us apply the word "obnoxious" to things we DON'T like. In future I'll try to remember that you give it the opposite meaning.

[Guest DCescortBOY]

RE: No Fuckin Way

 

well, in future, i MAY try not to call you a pompous ass in public

i'm not sure i'd hold my breath on that one, though. folks might take to referring to you as smurfette.

 

i find our dearest Lady Godiva to be obnoxious; his posts, i never said i didn't like.

 

did we ever find out what the definition of the word "IS" is?

[Talvin DeMachio]

RE: No Fuckin Way

 

Good lord. There is so much going on in this tread I don't know where to begin.

 

First of all the sword cuts both ways. I have had many of my friend/escorts not ask for the money up front and they were shorted in the end.

 

This is what I do when I am with a client for the FIRST time. I always ask to SEE the money first but I do not take it from them. I always ask them just to put it on the table or some where visible.

 

I am not a clock watcher either. Hoever, the client is responsible for the time. If he goes over time he is expected to pay. I lay everything out on the table with the client either by phone or by E mail so there is nothing NOT to understand. After the first hour I do not charge another first hour. I break it down to every 15 minutes. To some people that may seem like total clock watching. To me it is a great way to save a client money instead of charging him an entire full hour. And many clients have agreed with me and like my policy.

 

As far as when the time starts this is what I tell all my clients. I get paid for my time. What the both of us do with out time is up to us. When we meet face to face that is when my time starts. And there is no need to rush at all. I have been with enough clients to know that you can take your time without watching the clock to get everything done and have a lot of fun in one hour session.

 

Talvin

[Godiva]

RE: No Fuckin Way

 

Thanxs Pickwick for your support and thanxs Talvin for your feedback. This is exactly what I was looking for. Dcescort boy, your comment is well takin in the manner it was giving. I don't think I am obonoxious though (am I really):-(.. but I do think I am persistent. I won't resort to name callin DC..That why these threads often take a life of there own far away from the original post.

 

Only a handful of escorts have givin their opinion ..yours being one of them..up to and including Talvin. But there are many more opinions out there that I would love to hear. This gives the reader a chance to learn alot about an escort that might not be communicated during the Set Up..or the First 5 Mins. Thanxs again Talvin..I will be callin. DC..keep posting..I find your comments enlightening..but no more Third Grade Crap :-)

 

Godiva