+ BenjaminNicholas Posted April 19 Posted April 19 6 hours ago, samhexum said: Michael Jackson was preparing for a tour in Europe when he died because nobody in the United States had any interest in seeing him at that point. Jackson wasn't touring. He was offered a very well-paid residency at London's O2 for 8 months and 50+ shows. In only 72 hours on sale, he sold over 2 million tickets. It's likely that if he would have survived, he would have brought the show to the States. + FrankR and thomas 1 1
+ BenjaminNicholas Posted April 19 Posted April 19 (edited) 6 hours ago, Ali Gator said: Convenient timing for her to leave the country just when Diddy's trial is to start next month. She's doing everything in her power to distance herself from him, and not even be called in as a witness to anything. Do you not understand that the US can easily subpoena her in all of the places she's touring? She's not in any particular country where she could 'hide.' Every place she's going has extradition agreements. Edited April 19 by BenjaminNicholas
d.anders Posted April 19 Posted April 19 Wow, I never realized Jennifer Lopez would be such a punching bag. samhexum 1
samhexum Posted April 19 Posted April 19 3 hours ago, BenjaminNicholas said: It's likely that if he would have survived, he would have brought the show to the States. where it would have bombed because he'd been nothing more than a punchline here for a long time at that point SVU even did an episode with a kid-loving celebrity that was basically him, although the big twist in the episode involved Cindy Williams intentionally making her granddaughter sick.
Ali Gator Posted April 19 Author Posted April 19 6 hours ago, BenjaminNicholas said: Do you not understand that the US can easily subpoena her in all of the places she's touring? She's not in any particular country where she could 'hide.' Every place she's going has extradition agreements. I do understand that, but it begs the question - will it be worth it ? It's costly and time consuming to extradite her, and I'm sure she'll have an army of lawyers to fight it or prolong it (which would prevent the accused from having a 'speedy trial'). However, if she was in the states, this wouldn't come in to play at all and she'd be on the witness stand in a day. So unless her testimony is deemed 'detrimental' to the case, I doubt they will bother at all, and again - good tactic by Lopez.
FaustOust Posted April 19 Posted April 19 10 hours ago, BenjaminNicholas said: Do you not understand that the US can easily subpoena her in all of the places she's touring? She's not in any particular country where she could 'hide.' Every place she's going has extradition agreements. FWIW, this is not a fully accurate statement. Extradition treaties apply to those indicted for a crime, which JLo has not been, not subpoenas, and she could not be “easily” subpoenaed. A subpoena to testify from a US court is technically only valid within a US jurisdiction with personal jurisdiction and cannot be effectively served in another foreign, sovereign state. However, the exception would be a US national in a foreign jurisdiction; and to compel that testimony a plaintiff or prosecutor has a very high bar to overcome. Those compelling testimony would have to demonstrate to the US court, under a statute enabling it to do so, that there was no other way to get information essential to the case but through this person’s testimony, and that without it the case could not be effectively prosecuted so as to have a miscarriage of justice. Only then could the US Court ask the foreign court with personal jurisdiction over JLo (through what are called Letters Rogatory) to serve the US subpoena. They likely would have to go through the process again to enforce it, if she chose to ignore the subpoena while she was abroad (although if she returned there could be penalties.) So leaving the country, for all intents and purposes, is actually a very effective way to avoid the risk of being compelled to testify in a case or certainly delay the eventuality of testifying considerably, because of the time and cost involved once a prosecutor met the very high bar of persuading a US court to ask a foreign court to intervene to serve a subpoena. Ali Gator 1
jeezifonly Posted April 19 Posted April 19 Rebranding a very narrow breadth of talent is every bit as effective as it sounds, I’m afraid. And a lawful subpoena can be served anywhere if necessary… samhexum and thomas 1 1
rvwnsd Posted April 20 Posted April 20 On 11/26/2024 at 9:06 PM, BuffaloKyle said: Lynda Lopez - Wikipedia EN.WIKIPEDIA.ORG I saw her on CNN as well on election night or the day after. Reading this thread for the first time I thought I'd read Lynda Lopez's bio. This struck me as funny: '[Lynda Lopez] has two older sisters: Leslie Ann, a teacher, and Jennifer, a singer and actress." + azdr0710 1
Ali Gator Posted April 20 Author Posted April 20 Reading up on yesteryear's peformers and the struggles they have had, maybe Will Smith, JLo, janet, and Beyonce can get together and do a nostalgic tour of sorts. Smaller venues, they split the costs four ways, keep tickets reasonably priced.
samhexum Posted April 22 Posted April 22 On 4/20/2025 at 1:43 PM, Ali Gator said: keep tickets reasonably priced. Sacre Bleu!
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