marylander1940 Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 (edited) Prince Harry’s ‘Living Legend’ Award Was Allegedly Influenced By A Hollywood Star WWW.YAHOO.COM Hollywood star John Travolta reportedly played a pivotal role in securing Prince Harry a Living Legend of Aviation honor due to his connection with Princess Diana... John Travolta pushed for Harry's award as 'Living Legend of Aviation' WWW.MERCURYNEWS.COM Organizers have taken offense to accusations that Friday night’s award to Harry is ‘a publicity stunt,’ while past honorees have included such famous private pilots as... Edited January 20 by marylander1940 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthOfTheBorder Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 On any given day - there are at least a dozen new stories about Harry & Meghan. Overwhelmingly negative and not something they are seeking out. The latest one is the Queen didn’t like H&M naming their daughter after her….the story is from a new book by a former Palace aide. Any remotely positive story about them is challenged or denigrated by “unnamed palace sources” where do all these stories come from & what is the purpose ? Well, when you have an outdated hereditary monarchy built upon centuries of looting former colonies & slavery, along with a relatively unpopular & temperamental new King - then it’s much easier to divert the public attention on Harry & Meghan. That’s the game. I feel sorry for Harry - he had no choice in being born a Prince & was used as a prop for Day 1. There is no escape for him in this lifetime. When he tried to walk away, they’ve done everything in their power to destroy him - including abruptly removing his security when they knew there were credible threats against the lives of him & his family. They are out to destroy him just like they did to his mother. What a bunch of truly awful people. + Vegas_Millennial, marylander1940 and rvwnsd 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuriousByNature Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 17 hours ago, SouthOfTheBorder said: On any given day - there are at least a dozen new stories about Harry & Meghan. Overwhelmingly negative and not something they are seeking out. The latest one is the Queen didn’t like H&M naming their daughter after her….the story is from a new book by a former Palace aide. Any remotely positive story about them is challenged or denigrated by “unnamed palace sources” where do all these stories come from & what is the purpose ? Well, when you have an outdated hereditary monarchy built upon centuries of looting former colonies & slavery, along with a relatively unpopular & temperamental new King - then it’s much easier to divert the public attention on Harry & Meghan. That’s the game. I feel sorry for Harry - he had no choice in being born a Prince & was used as a prop for Day 1. There is no escape for him in this lifetime. When he tried to walk away, they’ve done everything in their power to destroy him - including abruptly removing his security when they knew there were credible threats against the lives of him & his family. They are out to destroy him just like they did to his mother. What a bunch of truly awful people. H&M crave attention, money, and relevance - and were more than happy to spill the beans and launch accusations about things they knew the Royal Family would remain silent about and not attempt to defend. He did not try to 'walk away' - he could have done so, like other members of the family had done, but he chose to stomp out in a way that dragged his family through the mud. He has a gigantic chip on his shoulder, which may be understandable given his unusual circumstances as the son of a monarch and the expectations that entails, but he mishandled his exit from royal life miserably. Harry unfortunately bit the hand that fed him, and then expected to be continuously fed by that same hand under his terms and conditions. With so much real suffering in the world I still can't fathom how so many people manage to give their attention to two people who remain more privileged and pampered than 99% of society. + Pensant 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 4 minutes ago, CuriousByNature said: H&M crave attention, money, and relevance - and were more than happy to spill the beans and launch accusations about things they knew the Royal Family would remain silent about and not attempt to defend. The public knows nothing about the interpersonal dynamics of the royal family or the reasons for the choices that H&M made (even with the so-called tell-alls). What we do know is that his black sheep image sells news and props up the images of HRHs. It’s a storyline as old as the monarchy itself. In my view, it’s impossible to have an informed option about any of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samhexum Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 34 minutes ago, Km411 said: In my view, it’s impossible to have an informed option about any of it. or an interested one + WilliamM, + newatthis and + Vegas_Millennial 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuriousByNature Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 1 hour ago, Km411 said: The public knows nothing about the interpersonal dynamics of the royal family or the reasons for the choices that H&M made (even with the so-called tell-alls). What we do know is that his black sheep image sells news and props up the images of HRHs. It’s a storyline as old as the monarchy itself. In my view, it’s impossible to have an informed option about any of it. All we have is one side of the story - the side that H&M have provided and that the media laps up eagerly. There is always another side, but in this case it is unlikely it will ever be offered because traditionally, the royal family doesn't hang out their laundry for the world to see. Danny-Darko 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 We’re not even seeing the whole of H&M’s side of the story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthOfTheBorder Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 (edited) 2 hours ago, CuriousByNature said: All we have is one side of the story wrong - most of the negative stories about them are planted by un-named sources, meaning Palace insiders. While they don't comment officially - it's an ongoing effort to destroy them, exactly like they did to Diana. It's true - no outsider knows what really happened. Except that H&M wanted to leave & then he was financially cut-off & security removed. Thats been reported by several legitimate sources with no pushback from Palace....just because it couldn't be covered up with British official agencies involved. Who cuts off security protection from a globally known person & family with credible threats on their lives ???? Truly awful corrupt evil people that's who. The bottom line is they are terrified H&M will eclipse the boring lot left in London and/or spill the real juicy stuff. He's got way more to tell if he so chooses. Lots of skeletons in those closets & Harry knows where they are. The British Royal Family is on borrowed time anyway. Unlike the Scandinavian monarchies that enjoy wide support & popularity - nobody cares about Charles & Camilla. Edited January 21 by SouthOfTheBorder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuriousByNature Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 (edited) 3 hours ago, SouthOfTheBorder said: wrong - most of the negative stories about them are planted by un-named sources, meaning Palace insiders. While they don't comment officially - it's an ongoing effort to destroy them, exactly like they did to Diana. It's true - no outsider knows what really happened. Except that H&M wanted to leave & then he was financially cut-off & security removed. Thats been reported by several legitimate sources with no pushback from Palace....just because it couldn't be covered up with British official agencies involved. Who cuts off security protection from a globally known person & family with credible threats on their lives ???? Truly awful corrupt evil people that's who. The bottom line is they are terrified H&M will eclipse the boring lot left in London and/or spill the real juicy stuff. He's got way more to tell if he so chooses. Lots of skeletons in those closets & Harry knows where they are. The British Royal Family is on borrowed time anyway. Unlike the Scandinavian monarchies that enjoy wide support & popularity - nobody cares about Charles & Camilla. I would disagree that unnamed sources or palace insiders mean the royal family - but there is probably no way to confirm it one way or the other. I also don't think anyone was out to 'destroy' Diana. Diana sadly destroyed herself, and this was a huge loss for many people around the globe. She never deserved having to be second fiddle in her own marriage, but I also don't think any of the conspiracy theories generated by the Al Fayed family hold any water. Hers was a tragic story, in any case. As for being cut off financially and having security removed, I think it's important to remember that H&M are millionaires many times over, and there was never any fear that they would suffer financially after breaking away from 'the firm'. They have more than landed on their feet, and live a lifestyle more luxurious than the vast majority of people. The security detail was taxpayer funded, and it was tied to H&M being working royals. When they chose to leave that role, it is understandable that they would also have to give up some perks. Security was not simply removed - it was security paid for by the public taxpayers that was removed. Like a number of other members of the family, H&M now need to pay for their own security. They can more than afford it. One of the big arguments against the royal family is how much they cost British taxpayers. I personally think their value outweighs the cost, particularly when QEII was still alive. But to keep paying for the upkeep of H&M, who made it very clear they did not want the responsibility of being working royals, would be a slap in the face to British taxpayers. The royal family has been a boring lot for a very long time. One only needs to look at the lives of some of the former monarchs to see how tame the current royal family has become. Ever since Victoria, the royal family has tried to portray themselves in a superior light and as moral guideposts for the nation. It isn't realistic at all. I'm not sure the royal family is on borrowed time. I thought they would be after QEII died, but it seems that things are modernizing slowly under Charles III, albeit slowly. I expect that by the time William is king, the royal family will be closer to the Scandinavian royals in terms of character. Far fewer on the public payroll, far fewer in the public eye. They can't continue on as they did for the past century and expect to have any relevancy to anyone. Edited January 21 by CuriousByNature Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 30 minutes ago, CuriousByNature said: The security detail was taxpayer funded, and it was tied to H&M being working royals. When they chose to leave that role, it is understandable that they would also have to give up some perks. I don’t view H’s security as a perk. H did not elect notoriety, he was born into a government institution that imposed it. With that came security risk, and not merely hypothetical risk. I believe the government therefore has a moral obligation to maintain his security. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuriousByNature Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 7 hours ago, Km411 said: I don’t view H’s security as a perk. H did not elect notoriety, he was born into a government institution that imposed it. With that came security risk, and not merely hypothetical risk. I believe the government therefore has a moral obligation to maintain his security. Well hopefully H&M will remain safe, and can live a happy and productive life away from the obligations that had been expected of them as royals. I imagine the royal life is extremely suffocating, and despite the luxuriousness of it, not everyone is cut out to be part of that lifestyle. And hopefully the rifts that exist can mend over time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SouthOfTheBorder Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 (edited) imagine if you want to quit your job, marry the person you love & move to another country - and then your family & former employer want to destroy your life because of it. same exact thing except on a scale none of us can imagine btw - if Harry didn't need to self-fund the massive security costs, then perhaps he wouldn't have needed to write the book or do Netflix. BRF made a strategic blunder that will come back to haunt them. Bet on it. I see the OP is back posting about things where he knows the types of comments he will get, doesn't like them & proceeds to denigrate. Very tired Edited January 21 by SouthOfTheBorder MikeBiDude 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJOCK Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 I would assume nothing more than a mutual appreciation of the other. I never pay much attention to stories like this. + WilliamM and thomas 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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