Video taping a session "for their own personal safety"

[viewing ownly]

I was thinking about a really smoking hot guy who offered massage, disappointed to find that his ad was still visible, but expired. He had just one review, and it was rather disturbing, which could explain why he doesn't do this type of activity any longer.

Evidently, the masseur had video cameras set up in his massage space. I was not able to tell if the client was or wasn't informed about them. What made the rebuttal to the reviewer so odd is that the client was told to "find and escort" if he wanted more than a massage. He at that time was also advertising as an escort! Huh? I will add I have never seen this guy have anything leaked on the Internet. He did briefly date a porn star, and nothing of them together other than G-rated gym photos, posing in mirrors with all clothes on, were ever released.

I can see having surveillance in areas surrounding areas of privacy, like away from the actual massage space, or the bathroom, but this seemed just wrong.

[Your Man in Arlington]

57 minutes ago, viewing ownly said:

I can see having surveillance in areas surrounding areas of privacy, like away from the actual massage space, or the bathroom, but this seemed just wrong.

And possibly illegal.

[viewing ownly]

18 minutes ago, Your Man in Arlington said:

And possibly illegal.

As with most anything nowadays, it's "In the hands of the individual states". Secretively audio recording people is legal some places, not others. I was enlightened to this when I watched the Bill Clinton Sex Scandal mini-series. I don't know how different the law works for video as opposed to audio.

[soloyo215]

2 hours ago, viewing ownly said:

I was thinking about a really smoking hot guy who offered massage, disappointed to find that his ad was still visible, but expired. He had just one review, and it was rather disturbing, which could explain why he doesn't do this type of activity any longer.

Evidently, the masseur had video cameras set up in his massage space. I was not able to tell if the client was or wasn't informed about them. What made the rebuttal to the reviewer so odd is that the client was told to "find and escort" if he wanted more than a massage. He at that time was also advertising as an escort! Huh? I will add I have never seen this guy have anything leaked on the Internet. He did briefly date a porn star, and nothing of them together other than G-rated gym photos, posing in mirrors with all clothes on, were ever released.

I can see having surveillance in areas surrounding areas of privacy, like away from the actual massage space, or the bathroom, but this seemed just wrong.

In USA, many states have specific laws against recording both video and audio in private, closed places without informing all parties involved. That's why you hear the "this call may be recorded" message when you call customer service. It varies from state to state, though. Nothing wrong with having cameras in open, private or public for security.

I myself encountered a situation like that with a guy I booked for a massage. I'm glad that I saw the camera pointing directly at me about 10-15 minutes into the massage, and ended it immediately, in spite of him trying to convince me that the camera was not on. I gave him a bad review in rentmasseur (BTW, out of curiosity, I checked if my review was still there, but it seems like his profile is gone, good riddance. Probaby got arrested or something). After that, every time I am in a new place, I check for cameras. I may or may not be successful at seeing them if they are there, but that gives me a degree of security.

The rest of your post is rather bizarre. An escort who tells the client to "get an escort"?

Bottom linbe (to me) is that the world is full of all kinds of people, with good and bad intentions, and it's up to me to have caution and calculate risk (which there always is). I don't let that nonsense spoil my fun.

[+ DrownedBoy]

On 11/12/2023 at 11:02 AM, viewing ownly said:

As with most anything nowadays, it's "In the hands of the individual states". Secretively audio recording people is legal some places, not others. I was enlightened to this when I watched the Bill Clinton Sex Scandal mini-series. I don't know how different the law works for video as opposed to audio.

Yes. In Illinois, like some other states, all parties have to be informed of being recorded, or it's a crime. Federal law doesn't care as long as the recorder is being recorded themselves. 

[Pd1_jap]

In California it's illegal to record anyone without their permission unless it's a public space. 

[+ KensingtonHomo]

New York is a one-party consent state. As long as one person knows they’re being recorded, it’s legal.