When, if ever, is it acceptable to negotiate rates?

[furrychested]

Hi guys-

 

Over the past 5+ years, I've hired a variety of escorts (OK, I've got a weakness for mature, hairy, muscular, top men). I have NEVER believed in haggling over an escort's rates. For a short time, there was one guy who I saw regularly and he would occaisionally vacation with me at an 'extra-special-regular-client' rate.

 

Now, I find myself with some great trips coming up in the next few months (e.g. the Caribbean, Hawaii, Maui) and would love to travel with someone if it fits my budget.

 

Most guys don't advertise a weekly rate. What kind of rates should I expect and is it OK to negotiate? Are great locales, exceptional accomodations, fine dining, cost of airline tickets, etc. valid points for neegotiation?

 

Thanks for your advice.

 

Mike

[Juan Vancouver]

Hey MIke!

 

Normally if the escort you are interested in likes traveling it is likely he will have at least one review of a long appointment. Keep in mind that not just because your escort of choice is great for an hour he is going to be good for a few days. This are almost entirely different professions and your chances of getting a great experience will increase if you do your homework.

 

As for rates, if your escort has reviews for longer session the rates almost always will be mentioned. I believe that any kind of customer has every right to ask for a discount if he wants to, just be aware that some will accept it, some won't. I travel with my clients a lot and I do not negotiate my rates. I love my job and have a blast every single time, whether I go to Siberia or Sardinia. However there are some people who do negotiate based on location, sexual preference, even based on whether they like your voice or not. So my advise would be don't be shy, decide on a budget that you would be comfortable with spending and chances are there is a hot boy willing to go with you for that amount. (But this is important, do your research and make sure you know who you are taking with... a few days with someone can be a looooooooong time if you don't feel comfortable.)

 

Have a blast, enjoy your trips, and hope that you find a gorgeous, fun man to go with.

[Guest zipperzone]

That was a very classy reply!

[Guest Chad White]

>Hi guys-

>

>Over the past 5+ years, I've hired a variety of escorts (OK,

>I've got a weakness for mature, hairy, muscular, top men). I

>have NEVER believed in haggling over an escort's rates. For a

>short time, there was one guy who I saw regularly and he would

>occaisionally vacation with me at an

>'extra-special-regular-client' rate.

>

>Now, I find myself with some great trips coming up in the next

>few months (e.g. the Caribbean, Hawaii, Maui) and would love

>to travel with someone if it fits my budget.

>

>Most guys don't advertise a weekly rate. What kind of rates

>should I expect and is it OK to negotiate? Are great locales,

>exceptional accomodations, fine dining, cost of airline

>tickets, etc. valid points for neegotiation?

>

>Thanks for your advice.

>

>Mike

 

Mike - i could be interested in traveling with u

contact me if u rinterested too.

thank u

[+ Tom Isern]

If I were you, I'd decide the rate I was willing to pay and then send out invitations. Then it's a simple yes/no answer you can expect. It makes the process very easy. This technique is a little easier than the open-ended invitation to negotiation.

 

I've been approached this way several times and I've said yes to most of the offers.

 

Good luck!

[furrychested]

Thanks for the input. Juan made a few points that piqued my interest.

 

I scanned the reviews of highly reviewed escort (>20 posts), who were reviewed within the past 4 months and only 3 out of 34 of them had reviews for a session lasting more than a weekend. (Interstingly enough, you have 3 reviews for vacation sessions!)

 

Perhaps I started with some faulty assumptions: that vacation travel is desireable and that dealing with one client in a week instead of several would be preferable. (Hey, at least I think I'm easy to get along with!)

 

I'm glad to have this forum. I thank those guys have already initiated conversation and welcome the chance to discuss things with any others who might be a good fit to travel with me. Drop me an email if you prefer not to discuss it open forum.

 

Mike

[Steven_Draker]

Mike,

My suggestion is to start with an overnight or better a full day (because you don't see how people interact when you sleep) before jumping to a weekend or a week. I've done several weekends and longer periods of vacation with clients, however I already knew them well and we were both comfortable with each other.

 

I hope this make sense.

 

Cheers, Steven ~

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[MscleLovr]

I travel extensively for pleasure and I have on various occasions hired an escort to keep me company. I do negotiate politely.

 

At home, I generally prefer longer hirings and it is only AFTER we have spent some time together, including an overnight stay, that I invite a guy to come away with me.

 

It's important that you are clear at the outset about what sexual activities you expect and their frequency, that you will pick up all their travel and food costs (but not incidentals) and that the guy will have a couple of hours free time each day.

 

On a vacation, it's important that you find the guy not only sexually desirable but also good company outside the bedroom. You will be spending a lot of time together.

 

That said, my policy with a guy I've hired is to describe the trip I'm taking in an email. I mention the flights, the quality of the hotel and its website, and any side-trips I plan, including the likely dates. I mention what their airfare will cost me (if it's a long trip/big expense), ask if they would like to join me and what sort of fee they would need.

 

I find that generally a 3day weekend will run at 1.5/2x their overnight rate while a week's vacation will be 2-3x the overnight rate.

 

In general, I have been pleasantly surprised that the guys have offered to accompany me for much less than their usual rate. I've had two "big surprises": once a guy was very keen to visit a city where I was going for a long weekend and his fee was 50% of his rate for an overnight; and another time, a different guy wanted a relaxing Winter sun holiday so he joined me for a week for less than an overnight's fee (his stipulation being that I could not fuck him each day, but only every other day, tho he made me happy by sucking me off to completion each morning)

[lucky13000]

A guy I used to see regularly when I would visit Chicago on biz asked me to take him away on a vacation ( 10 days in Mexico in January )...he had to negotiate with me....I think at the time I was fair to both involved & it all went well.....

[SergioReal]

If you like Hairy Chested man, you should try me some time.

Let me know if you ever in NYC or LA.

 

 

Sergio Real

[+ Lucky]

My garage is being painted as I write. the quote was $500, I countered at $450, which was accepted. A bad thing- no, just the way cash services are often handled.

[Lookin]

Hope they're not out there pissing in the paint. :o

[+ Lucky]

No, but I ordered a brown paint, not pink!

[+ Tygerscent]

ooo... I'm afraid to ponder what might be going into that paint given the above suggestion of pissed up paint~ Yikes!

What I have learned about vacations: Ask questions and communicate compelely Be sure the terms are understood. Good suggestion (above in other response), to perhaps see someone for awhile and then you can get a feel of how a longer situation might work out. As with any travel scenario, sometimes situations arise that are not forseen or in either person's control. If you have some sense of each other you have some idea of how to work things out together to make things go smoothly. Trying to figure that all out on a first meeting during an extended trip can be uncomfortable for either or both.

With longer trips I have been graciously invited to, I have, (recently), committed myself to start out with a session or overnight. Then weekend or more... That way we can get to know each other better and what the expectations are. We seem to be able to negotiate situations and finances better under those conditions.

Setting finances and expectations is just easier if you know the person you are dealing with better. (In my experience).

One important detail: If during your trip together there is any potential that the two of you may be seperated. Be sure that there is some back up plan to reunite. Be sure there is some way to communicate with each other. Not tending to this important detail could cause both of you unnecessary strife that could have been avoided during an otherwise wonderful adventure together. I learned this the hard way. (Just being honest here~). So, just offering that to all of you so you don't have to learn the hard way~!

Be sure the finances, allowances for food and entertainment, travel arrangements, and expectations are clear and in agreement. Not simply that though. Take the time, (both of you), to be sure that all three of those things are realistic and appropriate.

Some guys will negotiate on a price. Others not. There is no set rule it seems. The way this profession has grown in the course of a relatively short time frame, has put both Client and Escort in the situation of sometimes having to trail blaze and create what the rules are~ We learn as we go and sometimes don't get it exactly right.

So, take into consideration some room for human vulnerability and error to happen. Try to be understanding and listen to each other while making arrangements and while sharing the experience.

Stick to as many knowns as possible and don't invite unknowns.

ie., I have learned it can get more complicated if strangers are invited into the sexual or travel scenario. (I am not talking about when a client invites several Escorts together to play but more at inviting general public into the play scenario... when neither of you know anything about those people, it's just a wild card... either good or bad. Bath houses, parties, large cities with no cell service and places where you have the potential to lose each other in the crowd and there is no way to communicate with each other... trust me those are precarious situations at best.)

Wondering, "Where's my Client???" and/or "Where's my Escort???" is not what you want to work thru during your time together.

Keep in mind that when you are together, even in spite of Fantasy, you are both real people. The "realness" of each other becomes more evident with longer time spent together. Allow each other to be human beings. Allow for the appreciation of the wonderfulness of each other, (and the experience), but also allow for food, rest, relaxation, revitalization, personal space, and patience with each other in instances where, in spite of our Fantasies, our humanity illustrates itself~).

You are with each other one hour, a few hours, an evening, a day, two days, one week, one month... The thought that seems to have become foundational in my mind, (as I write), is: tidy up the stray variables. Clarify and reduce what unknowns you can. I don't think any Client or Escort goes into a hiring situation thinking: "Gosh how can I make this miserable for one or both of us?". Things happen though and misunderstandings can arise and sometimes one or both people get pissed off~

So... getting the price and stating the fantasies is not really enough or that simple. Best to have some consideration that if life interjects itself into our best laid plans, that there is some Gentlmanly mode of Conflict Resolution you can both agree on. Perhaps more important on longer trips but also worthy of consideration on sessions too~

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[+ nycman]

> ....but also allow for....instances where, in spite of our Fantasies, our humanity illustrates itself~).

 

I thought that was a beautiful sentence.

 

Applies to a multitude of life's situations.

 

Thanks Tyger.

[+ Tygerscent]

Most welcome NYC. What would we be without our Humanity?

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