Dr.Daddy Posted February 19 Posted February 19 This is what you do @gloriouszero - you negotiate ahead of time what’s going to happen in the private and for how much. I suggest starting at 1500 for both nude, kissing, this or that, etc. The negotiations happen over buying the guy a drink or two, hanging out and having fun while you support the dancers. The negotiation is for above and beyond the 500 you pay the bar for the private. Hanging out gives you insight into what’s on the table or not, as well as your connection/vibe, and if you’ll need to go down for a private more than once! If you’re gonna buy them out of working, I’d suggest you offer that for the next night or a weekday night during your stay- that worked well for me. Chidude, jeffla, VictorMcHugh and 1 other 4
gloriouszero Posted February 19 Posted February 19 Great insight @Dr.Daddy, thank you so much! Makes sense to take the time buying drinks & taking the time to properly get the vibe + negotiate. For the private, is there no way to use the room more than 10 minutes in your experience? That's so rushed, and I've seen other mentions of activities on this thread that surely take more than 10 minutes lol Weekday nights definitely make sense for the buy-out. Did you find the pricing for the activities you want to participate in to to be a lot more than in private rooms or should the expectation to be fairly par for the course? Thanks again!
CHIberia Posted February 26 Posted February 26 On 2/19/2025 at 5:11 PM, gloriouszero said: Great insight @Dr.Daddy, thank you so much! Makes sense to take the time buying drinks & taking the time to properly get the vibe + negotiate. For the private, is there no way to use the room more than 10 minutes in your experience? That's so rushed, and I've seen other mentions of activities on this thread that surely take more than 10 minutes lol Weekday nights definitely make sense for the buy-out. Did you find the pricing for the activities you want to participate in to to be a lot more than in private rooms or should the expectation to be fairly par for the course? Thanks again! I always go past the 10 minute mark at Wet Dreams and 69. There will be a knock on the door. We always stay over. Nothing else happens after that. I don't know if the doorman charges the dancer for a second round or he's more-or-less just acting like a timer for the dancer, but I've never been asked for more money. Maybe because it's busy? I don't know. I'm unfamiliar with this buyout concept. Can you elaborate? msclwrsper and + Vegas_Millennial 1 1
gloriouszero Posted February 26 Posted February 26 @CHIberia Good to know about the ten minute mark, I can see how it would be just a timer for the dancer to decide about continuing or not. Will inquire in person next time Buying them out of working is a fee to the bar so they are allowed to leave their 'shift' early...in this case with the intention of going home with the customer / to spend time with the customer elsewhere. What that looks like financially once you pay for them to leave, I think you have to work out with the dancer...but I don't have experience with this part of the negotiation. I've heard the dancers refer to the buyout as a "fine" to let them leave the bar, it seems to vary from 500-1000 based on what night of the week it is. CHIberia 1
gloriouszero Posted April 23 Posted April 23 Just wanted to bump this ⬆️ Does anyone have additoinal context about the timing issue in 69's private rooms? 8-10 mins doesn't seem like enough time for activities outside of a 'dance'...but I don't know the protocol or want to offend any of the dancers. @Dr.Daddy Did you find the pricing for the activities you want to participate in to to be a lot more for buyout/locations outside of the club than than in private rooms or should the expectation to be fairly par for the course? Has anyone else had experience with this?
+ Vegas_Millennial Posted April 23 Posted April 23 (edited) 1 hour ago, gloriouszero said: 8-10 mins doesn't seem like enough time for activities outside of a 'dance'... Haven't you ever hooked up with someone in a park, or in the back room of a bar, or in the back of taxi? 8-10 minutes is plenty of time... You just gotta skip the foreplay Edited April 23 by Vegas_Millennial msclwrsper, Dr.Daddy and Whippoorwill 1 2
VictorMcHugh Posted May 5 Posted May 5 On 4/23/2025 at 2:07 PM, gloriouszero said: Just wanted to bump this ⬆️ Does anyone have additoinal context about the timing issue in 69's private rooms? 8-10 mins doesn't seem like enough time for activities outside of a 'dance'...but I don't know the protocol or want to offend any of the dancers. @Dr.Daddy Did you find the pricing for the activities you want to participate in to to be a lot more for buyout/locations outside of the club than than in private rooms or should the expectation to be fairly par for the course? Has anyone else had experience with this? I have had some pretty lengthy sessions in the basement rooms at 69. It seems it is up to the guy how long they want to go. I have actually had to end it because it went on so long at times. Dr.Daddy 1
MrDakota Posted May 6 Posted May 6 69 - I've had private shows where they start yelling down to the room to finish up. I would ask up front how long you get. I usually start my cellphones stop watch once we get in the room for my own pacing.
VictorMcHugh Posted May 6 Posted May 6 10 hours ago, MrDakota said: 69 - I've had private shows where they start yelling down to the room to finish up. I would ask up front how long you get. I usually start my cellphones stop watch once we get in the room for my own pacing. I also think they have an order for who may be dancing/performing and sometimes private dances get interrupted because they are supposed to be on stage. I have had that happen a few times with dancers. CHIberia 1
CHIberia Posted May 22 Posted May 22 On 5/6/2025 at 11:45 AM, VictorMcHugh said: I also think they have an order for who may be dancing/performing and sometimes private dances get interrupted because they are supposed to be on stage. I have had that happen a few times with dancers. That's on the dancer, unfortunately. I've had dancers hold off on privates because they'll tell me they're about to perform. They'll do their rounds with the tips and then go freshen up, change and even put on a little cologne. Those are the guys that I give fat tips to Lqsvnsp, + claym and VictorMcHugh 3
+ Vegas_Millennial Posted December 3 Posted December 3 I am in Puerto Vallarta for the week, and stopped into the 3 strip clubs adjacent to each other on Saturday night: Wet Dreams, 69, and B Mine. Wet Dreams was standing room only, and no one in the shower when I entered, so I quickly left for 69. I stayed at 69 for 2 drinks. The "performances" were lackluster...3 guys on stage at a time and all of them not doing much more than standing still. Every guy but 1 had a belly. I waited for the 1 fit body builder to come my was, but his body odor was off the charts so I left and went to B Mine At B Mine, there was a wide assortment of guys but the only one I found attractive was covered head to toe in tattoos, which is not my cup of tea. I left and went home having visited 3 strip clubs and not tipping a single stripper: a first for me. Poppie, BSR, lightdagger and 1 other 2 2
+ Vegas_Millennial Posted December 4 Posted December 4 (edited) I went back to 69 on Wednesday night, after visiting the shower shows again at Wet Dreams next door. I like the slower Wednesday night compared to Saturday. There was room to sit, and a dancer paid good attention to me for several hours. Lots of hot men at 69, and they were a little less pushy than the men at Wet Dreams. I avoided the private rooms tonight. But I had plenty of non-private fun on the couch with a dancer on my arm/lap. Edited December 4 by Vegas_Millennial BSR, Wickedsexy, Nue2thegame and 2 others 2 1 2
12is12 Posted December 6 Posted December 6 For us newbies, could all you experienced guys be more graphic and detailed regarding activities and rates? For example: Vegas, who had "non-private fun on the couch with a dancer on his lap" - what does that mean? Mutual groping? Kissing? Dicks outside? Sucking? How much money per time/activity? One of the posters mentioned a respectful dancer wiping his cum off the patron's lips. Is that a private dance? Is it like montreal - every dance 2 minutes / 20 dollars, with activity escalation? Newbies would be grateful for clarifications...(-: n2guysnatl and lerbut23 2
+ Vegas_Millennial Posted December 6 Posted December 6 (edited) 13 hours ago, 12is12 said: For example: Vegas, who had "non-private fun on the couch with a dancer on his lap" - what does that mean? Mutual groping? Kissing? Dicks outside? Sucking? How much money per time/activity? Yes, yes, yes, yes My rule of thumb is to pay a dancer about 1/2 his private dance rate to stay with me in public and grope/kiss/massage/caress/suck. In the US where prices are typically $20-$25/song (3-5 minutes) for a private dance, I'll give the dancer $10/song to play with me publicly. At 69, where the dancers are fully nude in public, I gave 200-500 pesos ($11-28 US) every 5-10 minutes. In hindsight, I probably gave too much; because, it was impossible to get rid of a guy after I've had fun with him and was ready to move on to a new guy. If I had paid less, perhaps they would have moved on. Edited December 7 by Vegas_Millennial BSR, Pd1_jap, msclwrsper and 2 others 3 1 1
12is12 Posted December 6 Posted December 6 Thank u, Vegas!!! So, on average u paid 20 usd every 7 minutes; which is half of the going rate for a private dance in the US. How much is a private dance in 69 ? All activities-rates (kiss, suck, cum) should b explicitly negotiated in details beforehand ? I undrstnd all these guys r not-sucking straights, but they have no prblm realy kissing? Assuming I'll want to play around for an hour, it seems I'll b leaving there 200 usd - drinks, tips, larger payments..... ?
+ Vegas_Millennial Posted December 6 Posted December 6 20 minutes ago, 12is12 said: All activities-rates (kiss, suck, cum) should b explicitly negotiated in details beforehand That's the beauty of staying out in public and my going back for a private dance. If the dancer stops performing to my liking, I simply stop paying. And if I'm not paying enough, the dancer leaves. There's no need to negotiate up front that way.
Wickedsexy Posted December 7 Posted December 7 So you say that at 69 the dancers are fully nude. But I recall that at 69 only the dancers that are doing the show up on the stage end up getting nude. And they walk around with the towel getting tips. As far as the other guys that are mingling around, I've always noticed they definitely have clothes or shorts on. Has it changed now that all the guys walking around are nude? I would not complain. msclwrsper and Pd1_jap 1 1
+ Vegas_Millennial Posted December 7 Posted December 7 4 hours ago, Wickedsexy said: So you say that at 69 the dancers are fully nude. But I recall that at 69 only the dancers that are doing the show up on the stage end up getting nude. And they walk around with the towel getting tips. As far as the other guys that are mingling around, I've always noticed they definitely have clothes or shorts on. Has it changed now that all the guys walking around are nude? I would not complain. Towels are worn by some at Wet Dreams, because the boys just got out of the shower show. The rest wear underwear, but will lower it often. At 69, the boys are in their underwear and lower it often. Wickedsexy and msclwrsper 2
12is12 Posted December 7 Posted December 7 As a newbie, I just noted there r 3 dfrnt threads on PV. Having done my due diligence reading thru all of them, I have some questions: 1 - r the guys endowed brazil or DR size? 2 - beyond the set rates for private dances, there's a lot of tipping for the shows or for sitting, but scarce mention of sums. How much is a tip for a guy doing his rounds after a pole or a shower ? 3 - msclwrspr sat 2.5 hours with two hunks together or alternating. How much do I tip for such LT personal attention? How much for 10 minutes sucking? 4 - any recommended hotels in the vicinity? Thnk u one and all for posting reporting sharing (-: msclwrsper 1
+ Vegas_Millennial Posted December 8 Posted December 8 (edited) 23 hours ago, 12is12 said: 1 - r the guys endowed brazil or DR size? Most of the dancers are not doctors; most don't have any formal university education. 23 hours ago, 12is12 said: 2 - ...How much is a tip for a guy doing his rounds after a pole or a shower ? Tip what you feel like, if it's too little, the dancer will leave. After a pole or shower dance, I tipped 100 pesos (about $6 US) of I was actually watching the dance and the dancer got naked. If the dancer just stood there in his underwear or Speedo, or if my back was turned to the show, I don't tip. A few people tip more, many less or not all. 23 hours ago, 12is12 said: 3 - ...How much do I tip for such LT personal attention?... While a few dancers dressed as a firefighter or police officer during the dance, no one was dressed as a Lieutenant 23 hours ago, 12is12 said: 4 - any recommended hotels in the vicinity? My go-to gay hotel, Hotel Mercurio, closed last year. Casa Cupula is gay and nice, but pricey. Check out Pinata PV. I haven't stayed, but it has a good central location and is gay men only. Avoid Mantamar/Almar, it's gay in name-only. Every person I've met who stayed there (myself included) complained of the pages of fees and the headache it was to bring a guest to your room. I stay mostly at my timeshare closer to the airport and Uber into the Romantic Zone most evenings. Try to find a hotel in the Romantic Zone with decent reviews and is not all-inclusive. Edited December 8 by Vegas_Millennial Spelling Nue2thegame 1
+ Vegas_Millennial Posted December 8 Posted December 8 53 minutes ago, 12is12 said: Thank u, Vegas. Pinata charges $300+ per night. That's probably why I have not stayed there yet.
+ azdr0710 Posted December 8 Posted December 8 7 hours ago, Vegas_Millennial said: Most of the dancers are not doctors; most don't have any formal university education. While a few dancers dressed as a firefighter or police officer during the dance, no one was dressed as a Lieutenant @Vegas_Millennial will be the headliner next month at the club de comedia opening up in the heart of the Zona Romantica + claym, Pd1_jap, msclwrsper and 1 other 1 1 2
lcclench Posted Wednesday at 04:18 AM Posted Wednesday at 04:18 AM On 12/7/2025 at 6:33 PM, 12is12 said: As a newbie, I just noted there r 3 dfrnt threads on PV. Having done my due diligence reading thru all of them, I have some questions: 1 - r the guys endowed brazil or DR size? 2 - beyond the set rates for private dances, there's a lot of tipping for the shows or for sitting, but scarce mention of sums. How much is a tip for a guy doing his rounds after a pole or a shower ? 3 - msclwrspr sat 2.5 hours with two hunks together or alternating. How much do I tip for such LT personal attention? How much for 10 minutes sucking? 4 - any recommended hotels in the vicinity? Thnk u one and all for posting reporting sharing (-: Airbnb in Zona Romantica is the way to go
msclwrsper Posted Saturday at 07:28 AM Posted Saturday at 07:28 AM On 12/7/2025 at 3:33 PM, 12is12 said: As a newbie, I just noted there r 3 dfrnt threads on PV. Having done my due diligence reading thru all of them, I have some questions: 1 - r the guys endowed brazil or DR size? 2 - beyond the set rates for private dances, there's a lot of tipping for the shows or for sitting, but scarce mention of sums. How much is a tip for a guy doing his rounds after a pole or a shower ? 3 - msclwrspr sat 2.5 hours with two hunks together or alternating. How much do I tip for such LT personal attention? How much for 10 minutes sucking? 4 - any recommended hotels in the vicinity? Thnk u one and all for posting reporting sharing (-: So @12is12 some answers from me. But I will first admit that my “method” is totally subjective and has worked for me. It doesn’t work for other folks - some pay more, some pay less. I have my fun and if I don’t, then I move on and look forward to finding a muscleman to worship another day. Of the two guys that kept me busy, one knew me well from a previous visit. He is probably the closest thing to a bodybuilder in the bars at the time (I was there the weekend before Thanksgiving this visit). We had done a few private dances on the previous visit to PV and he knew me to be a very supportive patron inside and outside of the club - even after returning to the States. So, we have history. The second was a young dancer that was new to me, although he said he had danced in PV for three years now but only for visits (he live in CDMX) for 3-4 weeks at a time. He was young, adorable, muscular, and liked to flex so I was smitten. I noticed and then he started pointing out, that he did not typically spend a lot of time with individual patrons but usually liked to just keep getting up on the bar to dance and then make rounds to collect tips. But that night he kept coming back to me cause we “got along” and for some reason he enjoyed me. I am normally pretty respectful, asking before I touch anything private but once I have a green light, I enjoy the access. My “method” in PV is that I tip in USD and I come with plenty of $1 and $5 bills. I typically just keep slipping dollar bills in over and over. But because i know how much I bring i know I didn’t spend more than about $75 each on the two guys over the course of that few hours. I didn’t do any privates that night because I had spent plenty in other bars and was thinking I might enjoy more on Sunday. I did go back the next night and repeated as much, adding a couple of other guys into the rotation since the first (bigger) guy had another patron that was enjoying his company as well. So on the second night he jut came back and forth between me and his other patron. Unlike other patrons and even members of this board, I do not typically do anything to sexual in public in PV. I will grope a penis and play with their erections, but I do not usually suck in public. I’ll kiss but not many dancers do that in public. I will suck in the private room and I have normally negotiated that with the dancer before going down there so i know what I can and can’t do before we ever get into the room. I would suggest you do as much so you’re not wasting your time talking when the clock is running… This last visit I stayed at Hotel Eloisa which was nice and extremely convenient. One block off the beach, on the same street and two blocks down from these bars. My only issue is they, like other hotels, are very particular about allowing guests to your room. Which in my brain is bullshit! I have also stayed in AirBnBs and while I loved the freedom of the coming and going, i would say choose well for location and convenience. As for the tipping for the stage shows, i just give them $1 and tell them thanks and then go back to the man that I am worshipping at the time. The performers typically don’t linger out of respect for the dancer that I am engaging at the time. Some of them try to come back by and get in for more tips since they can see that i am continuously stuffing dollar bills but if I am with someone I’m enjoying, I don’t even let them catch my eye so they have no reason to believe that I am going to pause and invite them in for the playtime… Hope this helps and I’m happy to answer any questions you have. Happy worshipping!!! Zippo5 and + claym 1 1
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