Poppers - terrifying or terrific?

[Guest houseboy]

After having come back from an absolutely horrifying encounter with a client who breathes poppers like I would breathe the breeze coming in from Lake Michigan (on a good day, mind you), I was curious what other guys think about Rush, Jungle Juice, and the like.

 

During my appointment, I was asked to "feed" my client from a bottle of Jungle Juice in regular intervals (every five minutes or so) making sure he takes a real deep breath of the stuff. Needless to say, even though I did not purposely inhale any myself, I got plenty of second-hand fumes (here New York, ban this!), which eventually sent me to sauntering to the bathroom where I spent the better part of two hours giving my chicken quesadilla dinner an appropriate sea burial. The client wanted me to stay and spend the night with him despite what I would at that point have considered a rather unattractive complexion (there is, of course, nothing more titillating than being asked to suck some dick right after le bel vomir ), but I eventually convinced him that it would be better if we forgot about the thing, he keep his money, and I drag myself home to die in peace.

 

So here are my questions, escorts and clients alike - what do you think about poppers, do you do them and if not, do you (can you) tolerate their use by the other guy (especially if he is a client)? Does anyone have similar experiences when using poppers or am I just overly sensitive (aww)? Are there any brands of poppers that are "easier" on the uninitiated? I am seriously considering turning down clients who insist on popper use during our time together.

 

Also, on a sidenote I would be curious to know (from clients especially) what they would do if they find their escort date doubled over in their hotel bathroom. Do you check on him? Do you wait until he comes out? Do you let him go home? Or do you insist that he stay and fulfill his "duties" in the morning?

 

Just curious.

 

Sean

 

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Sean Lespagnol

Chicago, Illinois

sean@seanlespagnol.com

http://www.seanlespagnol.com

[Guest jwraustin]

You are not alone, Sean. I absolutely can't stand the smell of poppers, and they make me violently ill.

 

I can't for the life of me see how anyone would want to inhale something so foul smelling as poppers. Even in the same room, I get sick. The worst is that I throw up, the least is that I get a raging headache that lasts for hours. Not to mention the total loss of my boner.

 

I draw the line there.

 

 

Jon Dean

http://www.manfuck.net

[Guest Tampa Yankee]

>During my appointment, I was asked to "feed" my client from a

>bottle of Jungle Juice in regular intervals (every five

>minutes or so) making sure he takes a real deep breath of the

>stuff.

 

Whatever one thinks about poppers this is way over the line for a client to ask or an escort to undertake. You open yourself to potentailly horrendous liabliity of a criminal nature. Leave the intake of illicit chemcals to self administration... or simply decline the appointment if that is your perference.

[+ Lucky]

Isn't it the same for any form of substance abuse? When your use of substnces becomes MY problem, it is abuse! Escorts ofter have to dodge clients with these problems. By the way, what ever happened to traveller?

[+ Axiom2001]

There are really no "great" poppers nowadays! They're exploitatively overly-priced, and their reliability is so short-lived that one has to continue to sniff and sniff. As for the smell-- it depends on the type: some aromas (as they are referred to in ads) have fragrances that enhance the sexual environment while others are some are so synthetic that the smell is repulsive as well as sickening.

 

I've used poppers within the past two years primarily when I am alone; when I've been with some escorts, they have declined their use, so I haven't used them-- just enjoyed the delights naturally. I've let the escorts be my euphoric aroma and experience.

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If I were an escort--I'd refuse being with a client who insisted on using any type of substance--be it poppers, tina, alcohol, etc. I'd want to have my client as well as myself as alert as possible.

and to continue to practice safer sex.

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As a client-- I'm sorry that the poppers were so overpowering that your stomach became violently upset. Your client should have been concerned about you instead of his being satisfied; he should have looked into the bathroom and inquired about your being if he had any sort of human sensitivity and decency.

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Lastly, Jungle Juice and its equivalent (I've forgotten the name, but the wrappings are exactly alike.) are really the best nowadays if you can overlook what's being asked in terms of price.

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[sashek]

Hi Sean,

Sorry to hear about your experience. My doctor, who is gay, told me that inhaling poppers is the same as inhaling paint thinner - very toxic to the individual, and not healthy for anyone nearby, if a lot of them are being used. So: I don't use them, I would request that an escort not use them around me, and if I were you, I'd request that your clients not use them around you. It's much the same as smoking - a question of respecting the rights of others.

 

Concerning your other question: if I knew my escort was sick, I'd go into the bathroom and check on him - hold his head, or give him a cold washcloth, if that's what he needed. Afterwards, I'd call him a cab to go home. If he was too ill to travel, I'd let him stay over and go home in the morning. I certainly wouldn't insist that he fulfill his "duties" the next day. If we could reschedule, that would be fine, if not - well, that's life.

Sashek

[dick_nyc]

Many years ago in the days of the Fiesta Bar and the early days of Cats there was a drag queen who used to make it a habit to walk aroung the bar and stick the thingy of poppers in the nose of whoever was sitting at the bar. I can think of nothing more disgusting to have happen to me than that because I also get violent headaches from the stuff. I think you should have just excused yourself from the client and gone home.

[DaninWA]

Anyone who tries to use poppers in the same room with me is out the door. Naked if he's a slow dresser. Even a small whiff will trigger a migraine.

 

Dan

[Guest jeffOH]

I like a whiff of poppers if I'm getting fucked, but NEVER while on Viagra.

 

I had a client who did so much ethyl that he passed out while I was fucking him and fell face first off the bed. When he came to he wanted me to resume fucking. I did, but after the 3rd time he passed out, I told him I thought he was really pushing the envelope and we should probably call it a night.

 

JEFF

jeff4men@hotmail.com

[VaHawk]

Well, there has been no such thing as "decent popper" for years, and there was another thread on this topic a few months ago which might give you further insight.

 

I'm with you, those damn things stink to high Hell and back, and one whiff is all I need to get nauseated and get a splitting headache. I did use them back in the 70's but it wasn't the nauseating crap it is now. God, what an experience from hell to have a popper snorting encounter with someone drenched in Polo cologne (any cologne really, but Polo is like poppers - you can smell it coming from 5 blocks away).

 

Given your reaction, I don't think you should agree to be with any client who insists on using them. Like any drug, alcohol, cigarettes, etc. if it bothers you, you should state that upfront in your communications with the client, if he doesn't ask first.

 

IMO if you are doing an incall, then of course you can state that no alcohol, no cigarettes etc. is allowed. If you are in the client's space (hotel room or his home), then it should be his call and if you are not agreeable then you should just leave and not expect payment if you did not do anything.

 

I don't understand how any client would just let you stay in the bathroom throwing up for 2 hours without checking on you or inquiring about you, unless he just felt helpless as to what to do. Most people would make sure you were alright, see if you needed anything, and make sure you got home okay, whether driving you there or getting you a cab. If he was at a loss as to what to do, he probably would have appreciated you letting him know what to do, by just speaking up as to what you wanted/needed. After all, most of us clients aren't either omniscient or heartless.

 

It would be a sticky situation, at the least, to call the cops and explain to "your wife" what you're doing with a dead escort boy in your hotel bathroom.

 

:o

[Nvr2Thick]

>So here are my questions, escorts and clients alike - what do

>you think about poppers, do you do them and if not, do you

>(can you) tolerate their use by the other guy (especially if

>he is a client)?

 

Back in the good old days poppers were great. Amyl Nitrate made for some mind-blowing sex in the 80's. The best fucks I ever had were ones I had while on Rush. These days poppers are a headache in a bottle. They're a weak reminder of Amyl.

 

I haven't found any good documentation of the long-term effects of Amyl Nitrate, but I think it clouded my brain over a long period of use. A few years after I discovered poppers friends would observe that I had become a bit dull-witted. I do know that poppers burned up my lungs.

 

Back in the 80's I hooked up with an amazing hustler in NY. I had only been with a few men, and only been fucked twice before. He was very mature -- in his late 30's, hairy, tall, well muscled, and hung about nine fat inches. I wasn't doing a good job of sucking that monster and I told him I knew I couldn't take it up my ass, so he maneuevered us sitting face to face on his floor with our legs kind of wrapped around each other. He kissed me deeply as we jacked off and he thumped his huge dick against my dick, stomach, and thighs. He kept passing a bottle of poppers back and forth, building up the intensity until we were breathing the Rush out of each other's lungs. We made out that way for what seemed like an hour. I was flying. I don't think I've ever been so overwhelmed by sexual sensation. I didn't pause for a moment as he rolled me onto my back, slicked up his dick with spit, and worked it up inside me. He had to stop twice to give me a few more hits of poppers before he was all the way in. The whole fuck was a close-up scene, with him always close enough to kiss and to pass the bottle back. He was really nailing me good, and I was loving every minute of it. I didn't really come down until he had shot a load and jacked a geyser out of me.

 

As my head cleared I realized my back was bruised and rugburned, and I had taken a raw fuck and a load of cum up my ass at the height of the AIDS crisis. This guy wanted me to hang out and talk, but I paid him and bolted.

 

I can still think back on the experience as one of hottest fucks I'll ever have, while simultaneously remembering the feelings of foolishness, guilt, and panic. For the next year of AIDS tests I expected to turn up positive.

 

I know I wouldn't have taken such risks if I hadn't been bringing poppers on these adventures. These days I think I would trade away those old sensations for the ability to breathe a bit better.

[kjun]

Years ago I did poppers and don't regret it. I would not, however, do it today. I am older and it is not something I care to do now.

 

Regardless of the above, I think it is incumbent on any fellow human being to see how another person is doing if he charges off to the bathroom feeling ill. This is just a human response that we should all have. Further, if someone is not feeling well, it is not polite or reasonable to try to get them to continue in sex or anything else.

 

We should just follow the simple rule, "Do unto others..."

 

the Cajun

[Guest houseboy]

Thanks everyone for your input! I would just like to clarify one item - for all you avid message board readers who are following more than one string - the client in question was not KY_Top, with whom I had the privilege of spending a fantastic two days before my popper disaster. If there is ever a client review site, KY justly deserves to be coverboy of the year. I hope he eventually agrees to move to Canada with me to tie the knot.

[Guest Merlin]

In needs to be pointed out that poppers should NEVER be used by some one taking Viagra. The combination can be lethal, and cause heart stoppage. Most Viagra containers contain a warning that it should not be used with nitrates. So a client or an escort should not use poppers without being sure that the other is not using Viagra, since the second-hand fumes could be a problem. Obviously you should not offer poppers to someone without being sure he is not using Viagra. You should not offer viagra without warning about poppers.

[+ Charlie]

I have used poppers off and on for forty years. When I started, they were a prescription drug (used for treatment of angina pectoris)that came in little glass vials wrapped in yellow nylon mesh, which one snapped (hence the term "poppers") and sniffed; after one or two long sniffs, the effect completely dissipated into the air. Then manufacturers discovered the possibility of bottling amyl nitrate and selling it as a sex drug. In the 80s it was outlawed, and manufacturers turned to an alternative, butyl nitrate, which is what most of the shit that is available in the US is now, and I won't use it. You can still buy the real stuff in Europe, however, and I occasionally do.

 

Different people have different tolerance for it--some people do get bad headaches, while others seem to be able to sniff enormous amounts with no bad effects. Most people seem to suffer the law of diminishing returns, and overuse may cause the initial raging hard-on to turn soft and impossible to get up again. I rarely sniff more than a couple of times during a session.

 

I always ask an escort before the session begins whether he has any objections to me using poppers, and assure him that if he does I will not use them, as they are an enhancer, not a necessity. If he wants to share them, that's fine, too.

 

If I were with an escort who became ill, for any reason, I would not expect him to continue. I think it is just common decency to pay attention to another person's state, and to be considerate of him, whether he is being paid to perform a service or not.

[KY_TOP]

>- the client in question was

>not KY_Top, with whom I had the privilege of spending a

>fantastic two days before my popper disaster.

 

The privilege and Pleasure was all mine, what a Great 2 days for me. After I saw your popper post I wanted to get back on the plane so I could hold your head awhile (both of them). Can't believe someone would just leave you in the Bathroom without checking on you. Seems we spent some time in the Bathroom "checking" each other, glad our time was a lot more Fun.

 

> If there is ever a client review site, KY justly deserves to be >coverboy of the year. I hope he eventually agrees to move to Canada >with me to tie the knot.

 

Promises...Promises, If only you were serious. Take Care, your a real Jewel.:*

[FrancoDiSantisxxx]

Second Hand Fumes

 

>In needs to be pointed out that poppers should NEVER be used

>by some one taking Viagra. The combination can be lethal, and

>cause heart stoppage. Most Viagra containers contain a warning

>that it should not be used with nitrates. So a client or an

>escort should not use poppers without being sure that the

>other is not using Viagra, since the second-hand fumes could

>be a problem. Obviously you should not offer poppers to

>someone without being sure he is not using Viagra. You should

>not offer viagra without warning about poppers.

 

(1) as a client, I am not sure offering viagra to an escort would be a good idea, but then I am not a client and it has been offered to me and I have more frequently declined it, as I have most other drugs, particular with a brand new client, as well as alcohol. I do agree that it is important that one party be level headed.

 

(2) as with any other situation involving escorts and clients, communication is the key. I always make it clear I have poppers in my home for their use and always make it clear they should not be used if the client wants to use viagra. On another thread, some months ago, someone made the same point which Merlin makes above (a completely excellent one at that), which has also been discussed by me with my primary care provider, a sex surrogate I often speak with and other escorts and adult film actors of my acquaintence. Generally, my clients are between the ages of 32 and 44, however as many of the clients on this site and in general are older, it is important for an escort to ask these questions and/or the client to make it known that he is on viagra, even if poppers are not used.

 

(3) it is hard to say that clients should not do drugs, it is quite possible that a client can show up at your home and you would not know it. The only two clients I have ever sent home were, in one instance too high on some drug (I have my suspicion but as it is only a suspicion, we shall leave it at that) and one who was very drunk. Both drove there. In one instance, I took the keys from one client, drove him home (he lived in West Hollywood, in his own car, parked it, took him into his apartment, tucked him into bed and left his keys on the nightstand.

 

I sent him an e-mail the next afternoon and he had absolutely no recollection that I had done this, that he had met me, all he knew was that the cash meant for me was in his wallet, he was in bed and he assumed he had stood me up. That response was the last I heard from this client.

 

The other client, I called a cab for, took his car and house keys, gave the cab driver and extra $20 and the client's address (which I knew) and had the driver drive the client home and put him inside. This client resisted and was alert enough to know what was going on and was somewhat upset about the whole situation. I made the cab driver call me from the client's home (the driver's cell phone from outside) and then called the client and told him to go to sleep, and that he could come tomorrow for his car. He did, we continue to see each other to this day.

 

(4) In any kind of altered state, it is hard to expect a client (or escort) to act in an appropriate and humane manner. In one respect, where I a client and my date, escort or not, where in the bathroom, I would check on them to make sure, but I would knock on the door and not intrude unless asked. In some instances, the person may want privacy, particularly if they felt they were not at their best after throwing up.

 

In all, I think Sean, that you were placed in an unfortunate situation and you handled it as well as you could given the circumstances. You may be more sensitive than most to "aroma and you may need to make it clear when making appointments that they cannot be done in your presence. However, Axiom is correct, there is certainly a difference in quality available, as has been discussed many times in several places on this site.

 

Good luck in Europe and I enjoyed your website!

[Guest Dan]

Geem thought it was just me that got sick from them. That being said, if they have to be done, Jungle Juice seems to be the way to go. The only one that doesn't give me a headache...for at least the first five minutes!

 

 

Dan Dare

http://meetlocalmen.com/mlm/dandarela.html