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Recent posts and conversations with a few escorts have made me curious about the differences between escort/ client encounnters when the client is also a professional escort. I am not thinking here of threesomes or voyeur encounters arranged by or for another client, but rather escorts who throw caution to the wind and hire for pleasure. Do you tell your escort that you are in the same profession? Are you tempted to give professional pointers or take notes for future use? What's different (other than you two probably have great bodies and looks than the average client)? What's the same?

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Good Question,

 

Although i do not typically hire other escorts, i have on several occasions been at the right place at the right time... Instances i like to call 'happy coincidences.' :)

 

On the other hand, i have had newbies and other escorts ask for advice or pointers regarding this industry. I am always as cordial as possible in answering, as when i started, i had (and still have) some great people to talk with about things. It always made me feel so much better to know that i had an experienced ear to talk to & good advice dispensed. If i can help out a fellow escort in the same way then great.

 

Personally, i wouldn't ever review another escort just to tear him a new asshole. Aside from looking smarmy, i would just rather give good PR to a guy who really made the experience excellent. Like i've always said, we're not really in extreme competition with eachother, as we all individually offer something different. Added, personalities mesh differently with each client. 'One man's trash...' if you will.

 

 

 

Warmest Always,

 

 

 

 

Benjamin Nicholas

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>Do you tell

>your escort that you are in the same profession?

 

I first hired another escort 11 years ago. I can't remember if I told him or not. The next escort I hired was a few years later. I told him that I was an escort the first time I hired him. We also have worked together many times over the years. I've often hired guys just to see if they would be someone I'd consider "competition" or someone with whom I'd like to work.

 

>Are you

>tempted to give professional pointers or take notes for future

>use?

 

I've only given pointers to guys I work with and I think I'm a better escort having been on the other end of the transaction.

 

>What's different (other than you two probably have great

>bodies and looks than the average client)?

 

I suppose the difference is that some of the guys I've hired do more with me than they would normally. Plus, I've found I have better sex with other professionals than with the random pickup.

 

>What's the same?

 

I guess the "same" would be that I pay just like their other clients do and we're all done in around an hour.

 

JEFF

jeff4men@hotmail.com

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All The Same Under The Skin

 

1. When an escort has hired me, I have frequently been told in advance, and sometimes I have not even known until well afterwards. Some of the adult film actors were even surprised that I did not recognize them. I treated them no differently than I would treat any other client. No one got any preferential treatment, I did not do more with one guy because he might be considered "hot" over other clients.

 

In fact, the only clients I might treat differently are long term regulars, who get a session on the house or another benefit in the same way that a frequent flyer or any other regular customer of a business would receive preferential treatment. All of my clients start at the same point, however.

 

2. Other escorts I work with (as opposed to those who might hire me or I might ever hire) might receive constructive criticism. I have mentioned to some escorts when I have contacted them to try to set up a three-way or something else for a client that it has not been easy dealing with them, they are not responsive or I may pass along to them some feedback my client mentioned to me but not directly to them (provided my client intended the comment be passed along). Otherwise, I do not think it is appropriate. One of my reviews on the site is by a former escort and adult film actor. He did not so identify himself.

 

3. I have been interested in hiring (as a long term fantasy), a former adult film actor who is presently escorting in another city I do not usually travel to. I would identify myself as an escort but would also expect to pay full price and did not want or expect any different treatment.

 

4. Like Benjamin Nicholas, I cannot imagine writing a negative review for similar reasons. I can see myself writing a positive review and my handle would be FRANCO DI SANTIS.

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>That's fucked up.

 

No, it's good business to know who your competion is.

 

>And if/when you determined that they were

>"competition", what did you do? Try to have their legs

>broken?

 

No, actually they're guys that I ended up working with or referring clients to.

 

JEFF

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RE: All The Same Under The Skin

 

>When an escort has hired me,

>I have frequently been told in advance

 

Frequently? Your expecting us to believe escorts and pornstars frequently hire you. Have you looked at yourself lately?

 

>All of my clients start at the same point,

 

Horror and disgust?

 

>One of my reviews on the

>site is by a former escort and adult film actor.

>He did not so identify himself.

 

How convenient. Why stop there? Tell us that ALL of your reviewers are pornstars, escorts, muscle gods. Because your THAT HOT.

 

>I can see myself writing

>a positive review and

>my handle would be FRANCO DI SANTIS.

 

A better handle would be MARIO CUOMO. Surely others have noticed the similarity.

 

http://www.newsun.com/cuomo.gif

 

http://www.male4malescorts.com/images/francodisantis03-01-03.jpg

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RE: All The Same Under The Skin

 

"Adult film actor." I like that. It seems anybody who has even a cameo (cumeo?) in an adult film is a "porn star."

But truthfully, if Mathew Rush came to see me as a client, I would probably give him the extra special treatment that my lust for him would engender....:p

 

(But I would still charge him!)

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RE: All The Same Under The Skin

 

I imagine that good escorts learn from hiring good escorts, just like we do when a client hires us and the action is good. But I think it happens more often with erotic masseurs. The only professional massages I've ever had were those too good to concentrate during. And, of course, I hire those guys again and try to keep my mind together enough to steal the techniques (Uncle Miltie's "If it works, steal it" works in every kind of theater, doesn't it?), the ones that made me lose my concentration the first time. If I still can't, he's got a regular client as long as I can afford him.

 

I'm lazy and I still haven't reviewed him but bottomstud (Jim#2 of NYC) had one absolutely marvelously effective move that was so good I lost my mind, but consciously enough that I was able to steal the move at the same time. I don't think he's mad at me about it (I told him.) since he's rarely down here in my market (Houston) and I still haven't made it up into his. (Though I will be in upstate New York in August. Haven't made my plane reservations yet, so it is still a good time to ask me about specific dates and travel plans while you can still influence them.)

 

I know I laid myself open to Donnie in that last paragraph. Now, I'm not saying that he's an agent provocateur, a law enforcement official who is exploiting the natural divisions in our group and trying to make them wider to keep us from getting organized (ain't working, McGee) and eventually changing society and the law, but just how would his actions be different if he was?

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RE: All The Same Under The Skin

 

Ack! I just talked about Donnie in my 1,666th post. A post with the number "666" in it. Anyone who notices that might say that I knew I was doing it and couldn't help the aproposness of it. I really didn't do it on purpose. And I apologize to anyone without a sense of humor for having pointed it out. }(

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RE: All The Same Under The Skin

 

You know, if we didn't take Donnie so seriously, we'd be rid of him already. But he can always get a rise out of some of us. I'm wondering if it's because we don't trust the lurkers enough and imagine that more of them than really are are taking him at all seriously.

 

What kind of business are you in, Donnie?

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How To Tell An Asshole From A Hole In His Head

 

>>When an escort has hired me,

>>I have frequently been told in advance

>

>Frequently? Your expecting us to believe escorts and

>pornstars frequently hire you. Have you looked at yourself

>lately?

 

My vision is quite good and I have a number of mirrors in my home. I believe, as many other do, that they create a nice environment. Clients also have indicated that they like them for sex. So yes, I look at myself frequently. Also, unlike you, I have no problems with my self-esteem or my mental well-being, I do not find it necessary to compare myself to others in order to make it through another day. I do understand, however, that medication helps with this, as might group therapy, and if your finances are a concern in this regard, public mental health services, while limited, will hopefully provide some benefit.

 

I also happen to understand the English language well, in spite of the fact that it is only one of several tongues I am well acquainted with and that it is not my native language. Therefore, I do not fine it necessary to attempt a point by taking a portion of a quote out of context, by deception or by the use of anything other than simple clarity and logic. You should try it sometimes. The path to inner peace is often found in simplicity; given the lack of complexity of your thoughts, this path should not be a hard one for even you to uncover.

 

 

>>One of my reviews on the

>>site is by a former escort and adult film actor.

>>He did not so identify himself.

>

>How convenient. Why stop there? Tell us that ALL of your

>reviewers are pornstars, escorts, muscle gods. Because your

>THAT HOT.

 

I assume you mean "you're" not "your" as you incorrectly typed.

 

I am also not sure why you consider something such as a reviewer's means of income, former or current, to be convenient. No one seems to believe you actually hire escorts. You simply seem to be a disgruntled, unhappy, tortured soul who finds it necessary to develop and enhance their minuscule self-esteem at the expense of others. Very few reviewers list professions; some do, most do not. What a reviewer may or may not have done in the past would have no real reflection on the quality of the review or the reviewer. But perhaps if you had actually ever hired an escort or actually had an escort experience to comment on or review, you might know this.

 

 

Unlike some here, I do not engage in hyperbole; I also do not misidentify or misquote or otherwise engage in posting to a thread in a wholly unrelated way, as some here do. Therefore, to suggest or imply, as I most certainly did not, something about all of my reviewers, would be to engage in falsehood. That is also something I leave to others.

 

 

This thread was about escorts hiring other escorts. That is what I wrote about.

 

 

>>I can see myself writing

>>a positive review and

>>my handle would be FRANCO DI SANTIS.

>

>A better handle would be MARIO CUOMO. Surely others have

>noticed the similarity.

 

 

Since my name is not that of Mr. Cuomo's, I am not sure why you would presuppose I would be so disingenuous as to use the name of someone else for a reviewer handle? Is this simply how you were raised? Deception, misidentification and falsehood are in your blood? You just believe resemblence is somehow pertinent to escorting or reviews of escorts? In that vein, then I would imagine your real name is something else but you use the diminuitive of Uncle Scrooge's relative because you resemble DONNIE MOST?

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RE: All The Same Under The Skin

 

OK, everybody, Donnie told a good one! Ho, ho, ho. I actually can appreciate it even though I'm basically the brunt of it. I didn't laugh earlier because I was listening too hard, waiting for a serious answer to my question. But now I find myself waiting for Donnie to say anything. He seems awfully quiet after the recent fracas.

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