Clients "stats"

[sashek]

Hi guys,

A couple of days ago, an escort at this site contacted me about one of my previous postings, offering his services. After exchanging a few emails, discussing his rates, etc., he asked me what my age, height and weight were. I was a bit surprised, but replied, honestly, that I'm 50, 5'7, and overweight at 250 pounds. I haven't heard from him since.

 

I know that my age and size definitely don't work to my advantage in a gay bar, and this is one of the reasons I've begun to consider hiring the services of escorts. I also understand that escorts, like everyone else, are certainly entitled to their preferences in physical "types." While I'm not offended by his reaction, I am still surprised to have been rejected in this way - without even a "no thank you." I suspect that an awful lot of the men who hire escorts are, like me, middle-aged and out-of-shape. But in spite of that, I have good hygiene, a good sense of humour, and, the last time I checked, my money was as good as anyone else's. I'll keep looking, but in the meantime, I'm really curious about this - just how much of an issue are a client's "stats" to escorts?

Sashek

[+ Lucky]

"I suspect that an awful lot of the men who hire escorts are, like me, middle-aged and out-of-shape"

And another poster says he thinks they are mostly hot guys hiring escorts.

The truth probably is that it is like everything else, all flavors and colors. And as for your escort rejection, this has come up before and I assure you that you will find many escorts who would love to have you as a client.

[VaHawk]

RE: Clients "stats"

 

Right on target! I would suggest that he send an email under a different name, saying he is 20, 6, all muscular, hot as hell with a 10" cock and attach a fake pic. Sounds like the type of escort who would do the same! Talk about a KODAK moment when he opens the door! :7

[+ glutes]

RE: Clients "stats"

 

Right on VaHawk!!! Many times I've had a 'Kodak moment' when the escort opened the door for me, sometimes the person presented wasn't even a 10 year old photo of the same subject. It goes both ways.

At least the original poster was honest.

[Guest bottomboykk]

It basically comes down to this: good escorts are able to perform whether the client is good looking and in good shape, or the opposite. Bad escorts are not Those escorts who have shown themselves to be the cream of the crop consistently say they're able to find something in everybody that is attractive and use that as they perform. Bad escorts ask for stats then accept or reject based on those stats.

 

Sounds like this escort is a total loser, and will never be but so successful.

 

Disclaimer: I am not referring to clients who are unclean, obviously diseased, etc. I am talking about physical appearance.

[Guest JustStarting]

I too am over 50 years old, balding and new to m2m sex in addition. I've now hired two different escorts--each time, I admit I've at least wanted to have the fantasy that somehow I was still that handsome 18 year old I keep looking for in the mirror every morning, but who never shows up!

One escort (Brogan) somehow allows me to continue to believe that fantasy, and so I've seen him several times. The other escort (no need to mention his name) seemed to me to be eager for me to leave so he could count the money--I've never called him back.

 

I remember back when I was ~24 and some fat, greasy, slimy man came on to me--I couldn't run away fast enough. I know this business must be hard on escorts too and that's why I always express my thanks and appreciation to them.

 

In some small effort to help--I've gone to the gym, lost 50 pounds and while unfortunately I'm still 50+ years and bald, at least I'm better looking than I was. No escort, of course, would consider me hot--but I think I have some responsibility to be as presentable as possible--both for him and for me.

[VaHawk]

You make some very valid points, and I admire you for taking efforts to improve yourself, but that should be for "you" not some "escort". Of course any escort has the right to conduct his business in the way that he sees fit, as your own personal experiences have shown you, and he should not be faulted for his decision to do so. However, he should be courteous enough and honest enough to state that as his policy, as I don't believe many clients would be upset at that, whereas this escort just seems to feel that potential clients are just objects not people with feelings. But he certainly has the right to limit his market, and my sympathy goes out to any client who winds up hiring him. :-(

[Guest JustStarting]

Just as clients are people with feelings--so are escorts. If there is one single refrain I've learned from escorts posting here--it's been the simple request that clients treat them with respect.

 

If there's one single refrain I've read from clients it's: lower the price, keep meals off the clock, stop watching the clock, and make sure I cum again!

 

This escort/client relationship is a complex one: very basic, powerful emotions are just below the surface--each person with a different agenda--no wonder the messsage center is, at times, aflame with vicious, bitter and vituperative words.

 

Clients and escorts both want respect.

 

I would guess that clients and escorts both partly wish they didn't have or need each other. By that I mean--escorts, I would think, wish they could make the same money in a psychologically and physically easier business. Clients wish they would somehow find lovers with whom they could fulfill fantasies without the commerical component. Damn it that reality always interferes with the fantasies of both.

[giovoni]

RE: Clients "stats"

 

"Stats" in my opinion is a tacky term for an escort to be using in the first place. To me this word implies judgment that escorts have no business placing on their clients' bodies or appearance. When I am first contacted by someone I usually ask them to tell me more about themselves and what they like to do outside of the bedroom since a description of what they like in the bedroom (like what color curtains they like to see, what thread count sheets make them most comfortable, how soft the pillows need to be etc ) usually accompanies their initial email. When a client choses to give details about his body then I file it away so that I know a little bit more of what to expect for the appointment. (For example for someone who is extremely thin I may watch how much time we spend in the hot tub getting to know each other before a session to minimize the chances of overheating their body.)

 

If this escort is indeed turning down your company because of what you told him about your physical appearance you should write him off quickly and without any second thoughts. You did however mention that it has been a couple days since you last heard from him. Perhaps he is on an extended endeavor of some sort that has kept him away from his email?

 

Gio in Denver

[giovoni]

I too would echo that you should be happy for improving yourself regardless of how you may think escorts will perceive you.

 

I'm sure your Dr has probably told you similar things but you should be congratulated on not only probably making yourself feel better about your appearance for yourself but also reducing the risk or diabetes, heart failure, coronary artery disease and other health issues.

 

As far as being in your 50's and bald, there is certainly nothing at all wrong with being bald! I've kept myself bald for nearly 2 years and it was one of the best things I've done for both looks AND it's one less thing I have to spend time on in the morning when I'm late for school! As for being in your 50's I must say that mature men doing something to take care of themselves or improve their body, mind, emotional health or whatever is much more attractive and interesting to me then so many young men who do NOTHING to keep their body, mind or spirit in good health.

 

Gio in Denver

http://www.angelfire.com/co3/massagebygio

[giovoni]

RE: Clients "stats"

 

>"Stats" in my opinion is a tacky term for an escort to be

>using in the first place.

 

Sorry I jumped ahead of myself.. I wondered if the escort actually used the term 'stats'

 

that's what I get for using this as a break from homework

 

>Gio in Denver

 

 

Gio in Denver

http://www.angelfire.com/co3/massagebygio

[Huey]

RE: Clients "stats"

 

As Lucky mentioned the topic of client stats has been posted to death here. Also, as he said there are plenty of escorts who do not mind being with hefty guys, old guys or whatever. They simply want someone who treats them as they want to be treated and who is clean as we, the client, hope that they are.

 

As an example. I contacted Smalltown John (he won't remember). Anyway, he didn't feel that he could offer me the experience I was looking for. His honesty was refreshing and showed a lot of class.

 

Hang in there, don't let a few escorts run you off.

-------

Small town USA Here Huey Comes!

[kjun]

RE: Clients "stats"

 

Sashek,

 

I can empathise since I weigh in at 360. If you are ever in the San Francisco area, check out Jake Walker. He's a pro and didn't appear to mind my looks in the least. We had fun together.}(

 

the Cajun

[+ Charlie]

I'm surprised that no one has commented on the fact that jumped out at me from your post: that the escort CONTACTED YOU AND OFFERED HIS SERVICES. That certainly is an unusual role reversal, and the fact that he would do that and then reject you seems very odd indeed.

[btmstudnyc]

>just how much of an issue are a client's "stats" to escorts?

 

NONE in a professionals case.

 

Only too young is a definite NO NO.

 

TOO old is only a problem if I'm worried that he might have a heart attack.

 

AND...too skinny(anorexic)....although I could give him some protein.

TOO FAT? HMMM...well....I guess as long as he doesn't hold the Guiness book of world records and can fit through the door.

OH...and doesn't break my bed. Hell.... even that's ok if he reimburses me....

 

JIM

[FrancoDiSantisxxx]

R * E * S * P * E * C * T

 

>Just as clients are people with feelings--so are escorts.

>

> . . . This escort/client relationship is a complex one:

>

> . . . Clients and escorts both want respect.

 

Huey is correct, the issues of asking clients for photographs, what clients look like, escorts having "pre-requisites," etc. As indicated here, many of the better escorts have the same attitude and outlook as Brogan was shown to have here; they perform to the client's satisfaction without regard to race and other physical characteristics.

 

The idea of anyone - not just clients - getting in better shape for their own health and well being, not to mention simply because it is something that individual wants for himself , has also been discussed frequently.

 

What can stand repeating, which sometimes is not taken into account into the equation by all parties - in situations as diverse as a client/escort one, or even in political, culutural or say business dealings, is that good communications, equity and fair dealing, and RESPECT are both desired and desirable in order to make any situation beneficial for both parties.

 

Were that the President of Iraq and the President of the United States simply able to communicate fully and with honesty, to be fair and equitable in their dealings with one another and to come to the table with respect for their respective positions and beliefs, who knows what the world might look like at the moment?

[sashek]

Yes - that was one of the reasons I was so surprised. The escort in question had seen an earlier post from me, and felt it would be a good match, but was apparently put-off by my weight. Such is life. Thanks for responding!

Sashek

[+ Charlie]

In fact, that makes me wonder whether the original approach to you was legitimate. Was he someone who is known on this site (reviews, posts), or was he a lurker?

[seaboy4hire]

I like many others who have posted think that what that person did was wrong and VERY unproff. I have to say though I do ask for stats of clients but I do not ask for the stats and then weed out the ones I think might be unattractive. I ask because of safety reasons or I maybe meeting that person in a public place or I think it's fare to know if you client is 145 pounds or 250 pounds. I DO NOT discriminate against a client because he maybe 230 pounds or what have you. For me the derterming factor is the persons personality. I know sounds corny but hey I would rather be with a guy who is "average" in looks but has a great sence of humour rather then someone who is above average looks but is a complete ass who has no respect for others. So to you guys out there who consider themselfs "average" if you have a great personality, are able to make others smile and laugh and treat others with respect and how you would like to be treated in my book that makes you far more then above average. Remeber there are us escorts out there that are good people and do not play childish games like the person in the begining of the tread did. Hope everyone is doing well and being safe!

 

Hugs and Kisses,

Greg

Greg Seattle Wa seaboy4hire@yahoo.com

guystats.com/meximelt69

[AaronScottDC]

RE: Clients "stats"

 

>In fact, that makes me wonder whether the original approach

>to you was legitimate. Was he someone who is known on this

>site (reviews, posts), or was he a lurker?

 

Yeah, I was wondering the same thing myself. What kind of escort would contact a potential client from this message board and then refuse to see him once he read the client's "stats". I, too, wonder if he was actually an escort.

 

However, I have heard of some escorts actually refusing to do very many things with clients that they have deemed "gross". Or, they have raised the rates for such meetings. I find this type of behavior very unprofessional and think that the clients receiving such treatment should write scathing reviews of those escorts so others will not fall prey to their antics.

 

I have also met a number of escorts who are a bit flaky and scatter brained. So, there is a distinct chance that his refusal to meet you was, in fact, just a complete lack of responsible email etiquette. Maybe he just plain forgot about your email and became busy doing something else. I know it sounds ridiculous, but I have met a few working boys who might do such a thing.

 

In any event, I am sorry that you had to deal with such a thing and I hope it doesn't happen again. If you ever find yourself in the Washington DC area, be sure to drop me a note to say hi. I will definitely remember to reply and would be very happy to meet you!

:-) :9

 

Aaron Scott DC

http://www.erados.com/AaronScottDC

http://www.male4malescorts.com/reviews/aaronscottdc.html

[sashek]

RE: Clients "stats"

 

Hi Aaron,

Thanks very much for your response! If I'm ever in the D.C. area, I will definitely give you a call

Sashek

[AaronScottDC]

RE: Clients "stats"

 

>Hi Aaron,

>Thanks very much for your response! If I'm ever in the D.C.

>area, I will definitely give you a call

>Sashek

 

Hey Sashek,

 

You are very welcome! I hope we do indeed get to meet eachother sometime. Take care!

 

Aaron Scott

http://www.erados.com/AaronScottDC

http://www.male4malescorts.com/reviews/aaronscottdc.html