is dinner on the clock?

[Rick Munroe]

>it's just not kosher when an escort requests payment for something like this.

 

Where's dinner? Katz's Delicatessen?

 

>I can understand at

>times needing to perk up after a bad day and be 'on,' but in

>the longrun being yourself will garner much more success.

 

Being "on" and being fake are two different things...and I'm sure no client wants to pay good money to an escort to have him be in a crabby mood (unless that's their scene ). We're not talking about a complete personality change; and for those of us (including you) that give 100% of ourselves to our clients, it's a lot more than just a "free meal."

[Chuck50]

Being "on" and being fake are two different things...and I'm

>sure no client wants to pay good money to an escort to have

>him be in a crabby mood."

 

 

Rick I hope no one is accussing you of either of those cause we know you wouldn't be HUGS Chuck

[Guest Dan]

>Being "on" and being fake are two different things...and I'm

>>sure no client wants to pay good money to an escort to have

>>him be in a crabby mood."

>

>

>Rick I hope no one is accussing you of either of those cause

>we know you wouldn't be HUGS Chuck

 

Rick? NEVER!

 

But, all this reminds me of a guy that once called me and said that he wanted to take me out to dinner...then decide if he wanted to hire me!

 

Now, here's another reason that you should pay for time spent at dinner. An escort charges for his time otherwise, if the clock were to start once you got to your place or his, then it seems as if you are paying him for sex, which we all know is ILLEGAL!!!!! RIGHT????

 

Dan Dare, j.d.- NOT!

http://gaydar.co.uk/dandarela

[Rick Munroe]

>Rick I hope no one is accussing you of either of those cause

>we know you wouldn't be HUGS Chuck

 

Thanks, Chuck. No, not to worry...it's just a friendly debate, which I love. I hope the kid knows that, too.

[Gigiloz4me]

Well... first I'd like to know, how desperate are you?

 

This is your first meeting... breaking bread with this guy may be a painful experience for you. You matter! (remember)!

 

What if the escort finds 'you' to be a bore?... it could kill the energy reserved for a first appointment.

 

However... assuming best case... be a class act and reserve 2 additional hours of his time for dinner. This will insure you're not a bore!

 

Now, if you're cocky... have the appointment first... blow him away (so to speak) so when you offer dinner afterwards... he'll want to go.

 

One could boil this down to a single question; is being in your company work or not?

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

Well Rick...

 

If you had been there the night our party tried to conference-call you we could have exchanged blows personally... er.... well, you get the picture (and hopefully it's not that vivid)

 

... And yes, i enjoy your ribbing (for 'his pleasure' i'm assuming), as it allows me to not only laugh at your comments, but at myself as well.

 

 

 

Warmest Regards,

 

 

 

Benjamin Nicholas

Escort@ChiKindaKid.com

http://www.ChiKindaKid.com

[Flower]

Sometimes -- many times -- maybe most times, the client is not lookig for entertainment or for you guys to always "be on", but rather just the real you to bs with or talk to.

 

Clients can also be "people persons." Just MHO and not changing anything I said above :+

 

I am Flower :*

[Rick Munroe]

>Sometimes -- many times -- maybe most

>times, the client is not looking for entertainment or for you

>guys to always "be on", but rather just the real you to bs

>with or talk to.

 

But you're missing the point...is it the same thing to chill out at home eating by yourself or with your loved one as it is to go out to a restaurant with a total stranger? Being yourself with a total stranger involves a fair amount of being "on"...just as, for example, any TV actor who appears natural...to not be acting at all...is most definitely a very talented actor. With the advent of the internet, we're hired as much for our personalities as for our bodies...so if it's dinner or therapy or a hug or a blowjob we're talking about, why shouldn't we be compensated for our time? Again, I'm playing devil's smartass here; I have no policy on this issue. I'm too lazy for policies & rules.

[Guest ohioguy13]

I will add my two cents worth here. I guess I have been very fortunate with the escorts I have hired. I have my session with them, pay them, and then ask if they are hungry and would like to grab a bite to eat on me. Most have said sure... I am a very personal kind of guy and I have never had any problem. One escort went with me to dinner, then to the casino's... it turned out to be an entire evening. It was SO cool. Another escort I saw at a resturant afterward and asked me to join him, (I picked up the tab). A number of others have always gone to dinner with me. If they have another apointment and decline that is cool too, but I have to say that the best escorts I have hired (and I have hired the best...<g>)don't seem to have a problem with joining me for dinner. I will say that they have become my regulars (its good PR to me) If an escort is willing to spend some off the clock time... it is a sure bet they will get another call from me.

I even took two escorts out to dinner once after a session. It was so cool watching other people gawk at these two hot studs as we ate. Even the waitress got "wet"...LOL

Be up front and honest with them...show that you are a nice person...not just after a piece of meat and it can go much further than you can imagine...

[Guest njguy62]

Well, to answer your question, I am not desperate at all. Curious as to why you think that breaking bread with him would be a painful experience? I think we can manage enough interesting conversation through dinner, regardless of whether he's on the clock or not for dinner time. I'm a pretty easy going guy and I can't imagine that it would be too much "work" to be in my company.

 

In either case, I suppose you didn't see my post from the other day with a follow-up. I've ended up confirming an "evening rate" - about 4 hours time ($600) that will include dinner. Seemed like a fair price to me. Haven't figured out if we'll have dinner first, later, or somewhere in between!?! In either case, I'm looking forward to a great time.

 

I must say that I find it very cool that this thread is still going, 7 days, and 30 some odd posts later.

 

Cheers,

 

Dan

[Hotmuscles]

I have read this thread, and I do believe time over dinner could well be on the clock, perhaps not at full rate, but at something fair for both escort and client.

 

Personally, I do not "meter" time exactly, so long as by the end of the appointment, payment is appropriate for intimate time spent together and perhaps with a little extra to cover time fo dinner, travel etc. Each situation should be discussed politely and professionally, and agreed upon in advance, that way we don't have to talk about fees or $ during the session and we can get on with enjoying our time together.

 

Cheers!

 

Daniel

[Guest ncm2169]

Hedonist.

 

Your loyal friend, Mark. :+

[Zeek]

I like this question, I have read all of your answers and fell like I have got to know you all a little better. I was so impressed with the responses of one of you (Chi) that I have booked some time with him and will travel about 1300 miles to spend some time with him getting to know him even better.

 

The reviews are great but I believe I can know more about an escort by seeing how they handle themself in a form like this. Just remember you can make a great impresstion on someone here also.

[buckguy]

I once had an escort ask about dinner when all I wanted to set up was an horuly appointment. When I've done an overnight, it's seemed awkward not to make dinner part of the deal unless the start time is late. But, under other circumstances, it might seem odd. Even as a client, I think I can understand what Rick means about being "on". When I have to go for lunch or dinner with relative strangers for work, I don't "let it all hang out" the way I would with close family or friends. Business dining is often a drag and, usually, I really relax and only enjoy it with people who I think of as friends, as well as colleagues. Sure, sometimes you meet someone new who's a blast at dinner, but it's work. And for an escort (or a non-escort) their should be some wages in it.

[Guest]

Sorry for chiming in late. I have dined off the clock with dozens of escorts, but only after I've hired them. If the escort and I seem to have enjoyed eachothers' company, I will often invite them to a nice meal with no obligation. Generally, about half say yes, and the other half say they have other plans. After all, when I'm offered a nice meal by salesmen, I will accept more often than not (unless I have other plans).

Nevertheless, I would never ask the escort to commit to this before I met him. He might not enjoy my company, after all.

[Guest Dan]

>Sorry for chiming in late. I have dined off the clock with

>dozens of escorts, but only after I've hired them.

>If the escort and I seem to have enjoyed eachothers'

>company, I will often invite them to a nice meal with

>no obligation. Generally, about half say yes, and the other

>half say they have other plans. After all, when I'm offered

>a nice meal by salesmen, I will accept more often than not

>(unless I have other plans).

>Nevertheless, I would never ask the escort to commit to this

>before I met him. He might not enjoy my company, after all.

 

You know, if you look up the word "mensch" I think you'll find unicorn's picture.

 

Dan Dare

http://gaydar.co.uk/dandarela

[Guest ohioguy13]

My experiences have been very good in this manner. One escort had the time and we went to dinner and then the casino's... we spent the evening together and there was no charge. I treated that as a bonus and just made mw want to hire him again...which I have!!! Another, we have gone to dinner many times... of course sometimes it is more breakfast than dinner...LOL Actually I have spent many "off" hours with some of my regulars... It enhances the relationship and only makes me want to call themm again. Hell...I even have one regular who is giving me a discount for my birthday... It pays to have regulars.... and I have some of the best in the business!!!! I treat them like friends and they respond as friends... makes it really really cool

[Guest Dan]

>My experiences have been very good in this manner. One escort

>had the time and we went to dinner and then the casino's... we

>spent the evening together and there was no charge. I treated

>that as a bonus and just made mw want to hire him

>again...which I have!!! Another, we have gone to dinner many

>times... of course sometimes it is more breakfast than

>dinner...LOL Actually I have spent many "off" hours with some

>of my regulars... It enhances the relationship and only makes

>me want to call themm again. Hell...I even have one regular

>who is giving me a discount for my birthday... It pays to have

>regulars.... and I have some of the best in the business!!!! I

>treat them like friends and they respond as friends... makes

>it really really cool

 

I know guess that in the dictionary under "mensch" you will see OG13's pic alongside Unicorn, as I am guessing that the free time he got from the escorts were volunteered by the escorts.

 

For what it's worth, I've given clients free time for after the scheduled appointment. Usually, we have more play time afterwards! Just don't ask for "freebies" upfront, especially if you haven't met the guy yet. It's not classy.

 

Dan Dare

http://gaydar.co.uk/dandarela

[+ Lucky]

Gosh, Dan, that was so kind of you to repeat the post above you. I didn't understand it any better the second time!

[IamI2002]

I would pay for the entire time, but get a rather private table with very soft lights and start humping right in the retaurant. What a deliciously exhibitionist way to break the ice between you two.

[IamI2002]

Are you the old "Thunderbuns" I used to call "Lightningfart"?

[IamI2002]

If you try Second Avenue Deli in NYC with the escort, you can get all kinds of good Kosher stuff. Even pickles ay your table always.

[IamI2002]

Loved Dandarella's pictures, especially #3. So refreshing to see an escort "au naturel." I really hate clipping/shaving.

[tropikal_knight]

DRfromFL

 

It seems to me that the issue centers around whether or not the 2 persons have some personal experience with each other. For myself, I am happy to treat an escort to dinner when appropriate, but feel that if I am taking care of the check then there should be no charge for time. Normally I would not be inviting an escort out for just a casual sandwich or snack, but rather a full meal including wine, after dinner drinks etc. Depending on the quality of the restaurant they can be quite costly.

 

Having said that, I can certainly understand an escort saying that he would have dinner only if being paid for the time. If it is a first-time encounter the escort has no idea whatsoever of what he is getting himself into. He could agree to spend a lengthy dinner with a total boor or idiot. (Or it could be someone charming and witty such as myself, lol).

 

My approach to these situations is straightforward. "I would be happy to take you to dinner at my expense, however, I would not expect that to be included in your fee for our time spent together." The escort then has every right to decline, negotiate or compromise with an evening rate. I also take this approach when in Las Vegas and attending shows or when in New York and attending the theater.

[Guest DickSoccer]

an escort out for the buckx???? what isntead of the ART of escorting

OH MARY PUHLEEEEZZE