Urgent 411 NYC Hott Handsome Newbie

[Guest MikeThomas]

Has anyone met up with this guy 😂😂😂

[+ goosh69]

So it seems like the urgency in this thread is…a guy who actually lives in NYC is only taking clients from April 15-30, and recently moved into an expensive new apartment…so he urgently needs to make his down payment?

[Walt]

3 hours ago, coriolis888 said:

The provider's rentmen ad and the previous posts led me down a slope of contradictions and chutzpah on the part of the provider and his recommended co-worker. 

One minor matter is the inconsistency in his rentmen ad about his height.  Most people know their height.  His rentmen ad says he is 6.0 feet tall.  However, he claims to be the model/actor, Chad Allen Jackson (which I doubt).  Posts above said he claims to be that actor/model. 

Below is a public link for the model/actor Chad Allen Jackson

https://www.starnow.com/chadallenjackson

Looking at the face photo in the above link, the face photos in the rentmen ad do not look like the face photo in the above listing for model work and there is a contradiction in the height of 6"1" compared to 6.0 in the rentmen ad.    

Next, in the narrative in the provider's rentmen ad is the following recommendation "Check out my hot friend too!  His pics and Bio:  www.hilvp.com. Hung Ivy League athlete, we work very well as a team"

Click on the recommended link in the above quotation ( www.hilvp.com ) 

I think many people on this forum will recognize this "hot friend"  as a long time advertiser on rentmen.  When you read the narrative of the "friend"  at the aforementioned link, you will see a very long rambling post, almost as long a newspaper article.  In the narrative, the provider's friend said his rate is $500 hourly with a two hour minimum.  Clients need to pay upfront upon arrival.  Anyone interested can read the very long message at the link ( www.hilvp.com ).

The contradiction in the provider's height, the discrepancy in the face photo together with the recommendation for the escort at link www.hilvp.com, cancel me out as possibly being interested in contacting either provider.  

One more thing, his recommended co-worker wants to be paid his rate ($500 hourly) in addition to the rate while meeting.  In other words, he wants to be paid while traveling to you in an Uber.   

Beware.

That's certainly one very long rambling post, almost as long a newspaper article to say he's either 6'0" or 6'1" and wants to be paid up front.  😉

[former lurker]

8 minutes ago, coriolis888 said:

Sorry about the long post. 

I wanted to save some forum member from a likely bad experience from hiring a provider that gives off too many contradictory signals.  

You did not mention in your response his friends "minimum rate" nor the fact that he wants $500 hourly while riding in an Uber to the client that is paid by the client.  You also did not mention the most important fact that the photos in the rentmen ad do not match the photo in the model's professional ad.  

Again, I recommend to beware of the provider.  

His friend's rates say nothing about him, except to give an idea about someone who he can work with, and whose abilities he justifiably admires.  I get that a lot of posters find IVLHV to be too expensive, and that they make all sorts of statements about "better” guys (unnamed) for much less while those who actually did see him uniformly found him exceptional, and consistent with this provider's description.

So, I'd say your rant was not only long, but it really failed to demonstrate "constradictions" or anything to suggest the add is misleading.  You don't like the other guy's rates.  Don't hire him.  No need to manufacture controversy because you think a guy is overpriced.

 

 

 

[Jim_n_NYC]

On 4/13/2022 at 2:57 PM, FrankR said:

I am still trying to figure out why this thread is titled “Urgent”…

 

On 4/14/2022 at 7:47 PM, FrankR said:

Ah, I see.  Yes, by all means, let's perpetuate the stereotype and ramp up the drama to get more attention... 😆

You do realize I was agreeing with your comment....right??

[former lurker]

1 hour ago, coriolis888 said:

My "rant" - please look in a dictionary for the definition of the word and do not use it again like you erroneously did in your post quoted above. 

Dictionary definition of "rant"

"rant"

/rant/

"speak or shout at length in a wild, impassioned way."

 

I wrote a post with confirmable facts, I did not "speak or shout" a post.  You ignored the facts that I presented or you did not understand what was written.  

 

Your statement "You don't like the other guy's rates." "No need to manufacture controversy because you think a guy is overpriced."

 

I did not write that I did not like the guy's rates.  You fabricated that from your inability to understand a long post.  I quoted the rates of the friend he recommended to join in the "get together" with him.  It is the friend who charges $500 per hour to ride in an Uber getting to a client's meeting place.    

 

I am sorry to be rude but you seem to have difficulty in understanding what you read.  Worse, you twisted what you have difficulty reading then you made up interpretations that were not presented in the post.  

 

If English is not your first language, then I accept your apology for misinterpreting what I wrote.  

 

In my post, I tried to be helpful to forum members here.  Please do not distort what I wrote.  

 

One of the purposes of this forum is to share information to help other members.  To twist written words in another member's post and make something totally different than was written is not helpful. 

 

 

You lack sufficient reading comprehension and are too defensive to have a reasonable dialog.  I'll just not that a "rant" may be written.  You've opted for a narrow definition.  The word rant accurately describes the tenor or your post.  And I was referring to your bringing up the "friend's" rates.  You find those rates so offensive you have to include them in your list of gripes about the provider who's the subject of the thread.   But I'll let other readers draw their conclusions.   No distortion on my part.   

You also choose to get needlessly nasty.  Not only is English my "first" language, it's the one I'm published in and employed as a college teacher and attorney drafting opinions for a federal, as well as the language I utilized as an editorial manager of one of the nation's leading law review.  Try reading more carefully, both what you write and what other's write in response.  It'll reduce the noise and the confusion.

BTW, when you stoop to unsupported insults (questioning my facility with English, accusing me of fabricating and distorting because you didn't recognize I was saying you shouldn't criticize the provider asked about in the thread based on your dislike of his friend's pricing.  Oh, and what "confirmable" facts did you point out?  That the provider may be 6' or 6'1" (or, perhaps 6' . 5"). You were merely alerting the forum to facts.  You were (mis) characterizing those facts. 

 

[hammee3ny]

So...maybe i'm late to the game but I just figured what other word his handle is supposed to look like = OBJECTIFICATION

[guru68]

I'd be less worried about the man's height and more worried about how I was going to uncross my eyes after he and his friend had their way with me. 

[Andy2]

I AGREE with this point made by Hammee: 

So...maybe i'm late to the game but I just figured what other word his handle is supposed to look like = OBJECTIFICATION

[Andy2]

UPDATE: 

Jackson just got his first rm review -- one star out of five.   And by an established (red ribbon) reviewer.  In the private comments:  "Not a nice person." 

 

[coriolis888]

14 minutes ago, Andy2 said:

UPDATE: 

Jackson just got his first rm review -- one star out of five.   And by an established (red ribbon) reviewer.  In the private comments:  "Not a nice person." 

 

 

Thanks for alerting the forum to the first review of the person who had so many contradictions in his ad. 

The main contradiction was the photos in his ad did not match the photo of the professional model he falsely claimed to be.  

The client who wrote the review commented that the photos in the ad did not match the person. 

 

 

[Andy2]

Jackson remains a bit of a mystery, but as a preliminary matter I am grateful to Coriolis88 for raising doubts about this provider.  TGTBT so far . . . .

[coriolis888]

1 hour ago, Andy2 said:

Jackson remains a bit of a mystery, but as a preliminary matter I am grateful to Coriolis888 for raising doubts about this provider.  TGTBT so far . . . .

Thank you for the nice comment. 

What a timely and negative review of the provider that was recently posted in his rentmen ad!  

Based on the inconsistencies in his ad together with the negative review, you were likely saved from an expensive and disappointing experience if you had hired him.  

You did the forum a great service by asking about the provider.  

 

[+ goosh69]

On 4/16/2022 at 9:06 AM, coriolis888 said:

Again you misinterpreted my posts.  Read what I wrote. 

You wrote, "And I was referring to your bringing up the "friend's" rates.  You find those rates so offensive you have to include them in your list of gripes about the provider who's the subject of the thread.   But I'll let other readers draw their conclusions.   No distortion on my part." 

I did not "find those rates so offensive you have to include them in your list of gripes - - "  You fabricated that.  

If you read my post again, you will see that you failed to understand English.  I did not "find the rates so offensive - - "

I found the fact that his provider friend wants clients to pay a $500.00 rate while traveling to the client in an Uber and the client pays for the Uber.  The requirement of being paid while in an Uber heading to a client is not "so offensive"; rather it is chutzpah.

Read what I wrote again.  It does not even come close to what you distorted.

When I wrote that your misinterpretation of my post could relate to the possibility that English might not be your first language, I was being kind in giving you an "out" for your distortion of what I wrote and your misuse of certain words.  I tried to be kind despite your erroneous and inappropriate post.   

You took my kind gesture as an insult and boasted about writing for a law journal et cetera.  

In closing, you missed the most important item I listed in my warning about the provider.  That item is the face photos in the provider's rentmen ad do not match the photo in an independent advertisement that  depicts the provider's modeling and other talents unrelated to escorting.    

I believe the forum has rules against personal attacks against other forum members.  I believe your hostile responses and distortions of what I wrote in my post crossed the line in regards to personal attacks.  Accordingly, please stop distorting what I wrote in good faith. 

 

 

   

 

So your fourth or fifth ranting post where you rant about the fact that you’re not ranting. Dig deeper, the hole is halfway to the Earth’s core as-is.

[former lurker]

On 4/16/2022 at 12:06 PM, coriolis888 said:

Again you misinterpreted my posts.  Read what I wrote. 

You wrote, "And I was referring to your bringing up the "friend's" rates.  You find those rates so offensive you have to include them in your list of gripes about the provider who's the subject of the thread.   But I'll let other readers draw their conclusions.   No distortion on my part." 

I did not "find those rates so offensive you have to include them in your list of gripes - - "  You fabricated that.  

If you read my post again, you will see that you failed to understand English.  I did not "find the rates so offensive - - "

I found the fact that his provider friend wants clients to pay a $500.00 rate while traveling to the client in an Uber and the client pays for the Uber.  The requirement of being paid while in an Uber heading to a client is not "so offensive"; rather it is chutzpah.

Read what I wrote again.  It does not even come close to what you distorted.

When I wrote that your misinterpretation of my post could relate to the possibility that English might not be your first language, I was being kind in giving you an "out" for your distortion of what I wrote and your misuse of certain words.  I tried to be kind despite your erroneous and inappropriate post.   

You took my kind gesture as an insult and boasted about writing for a law journal et cetera.  

In closing, you missed the most important item I listed in my warning about the provider.  That item is the face photos in the provider's rentmen ad do not match the photo in an independent advertisement that  depicts the provider's modeling and other talents unrelated to escorting.    

I believe the forum has rules against personal attacks against other forum members.  I believe your hostile responses and distortions of what I wrote in my post crossed the line in regards to personal attacks.  Accordingly, please stop distorting what I wrote in good faith. 

You call a "fabrication" an impression I got as to why you import your dislike or another escorts charging for uber/travel time as a reason to not hire the one asked about. 

What was your "kind gesture"?  I saw a series of unwarranted digs in lieu of reflection on what you originally wrote. Pardon me for not realizing you had prioritized your quibbling over public vs. ad pictures.  I found that argument less than compelling given other posters pointing out the "real" person would be in the same city, and that contacting the real person confirmed resulted in a confirmation that the pictures in the ad are of him. 

You're continued attempts to manufacture an attack on you, when you've been doing the attacking.  For whatever reason, you're too thin-skinned about this to analyze your own writings and see them objectively.  It is pointless to further discuss.  I won't.

Have a good night/morning.

 

 

   

 

 

[coriolis888]

On 4/17/2022 at 10:10 PM, goosh69 said:

So your fourth or fifth ranting post where you rant about the fact that you’re not ranting. Dig deeper, the hole is halfway to the Earth’s core as-is.

Does it make you feel good about yourself to mock a forum member on an anonymous board?

[+ goosh69]

1 hour ago, coriolis888 said:

Does it make you feel good about yourself to mock a forum member on an anonymous board?

Does it feel good to rant about people you don’t know to people you don’t know? Seems like people like to discuss things online, in forums such as these.

[John]

Gosh.  The guy requires a minimum payment of $1000 and is into pnp.  Let me outta here!!

[coriolis888]

9 hours ago, goosh69 said:

Does it feel good to rant about people you don’t know to people you don’t know? Seems like people like to discuss things online, in forums such as these.

"Seems like people like" you and your lurker buddy like to ignore forum rules and make personal attacks at other forum members.   

Funny thing though, the following day after I researched and posted about the provider, the provider received his one and only rentmen review.  That review was a negative one star review along with a negative comment about the provider "Not a nice person"  The review also said the photos do not match the advertisement.  The review was from an established rentmen client.  

https://rent.men/ObjectifiJackson

So, what you and your Lurker buddy call "ranting" turned out to be an accurate description and accurate warning about the provider that the thread originator asked about.   

Your apology is accepted.    

[+ goosh69]

13 hours ago, coriolis888 said:

"Seems like people like" you and your lurker buddy like to ignore forum rules and make personal attacks at other forum members.   

Funny thing though, the following day after I researched and posted about the provider, the provider received his one and only rentmen review.  That review was a negative one star review along with a negative comment about the provider "Not a nice person"  The review also said the photos do not match the advertisement.  The review was from an established rentmen client.  

https://rent.men/ObjectifiJackson

So, what you and your Lurker buddy call "ranting" turned out to be an accurate description and accurate warning about the provider that the thread originator asked about.   

Your apology is accepted.    

I don’t think I personally attacked  you nor did I apologize for not thinking I’d done so. I will say I still don’t see what’s “urgent” in this thread. But I’m glad some buyers are now knowledgeable enough to be wary. 

Edited April 20, 2022 by goosh69

[Kevin Slater]

Gentlemen:  take your feud elsewhere, or simply block one another.  Further posts to this thread should be about the escort at hand and his services, not an analysis of each other's posts.

Kevin Slater qua admin

[crazyivan]

The negative review is now gone.

[Andy2]

Kevin, thanks for your refereeing.  

Sticking to my original inquiry, crazyivan points out that the single review--very negative--has been pulled.  That seals the deal for me (and I was already off the bandwagon) -- sounds like the provider may be manipulative.   I'd love to know the reason RM pulled the review. 

[coriolis888]

3 hours ago, Andy2 said:

   I'd love to know the reason RM pulled the review. 

Providers use various methods to have a bad review removed from their rentmen advertisement.  

If you see a rentmen ad that shows only five star reviews, make sure you see many positive reviews in the ad rather than just one or two positive reviews.  Also, look at the length of time the provider has been advertising on rentmen.   

Sometimes providers change their screen name after they accumulate several bad reviews.  That way, they can pretend to be a new advertiser.  We, as clients, must realize that a new advertiser could be simply an old advertiser with a new screen name.  

Numerous positive reviews give more assurance the provider is valid if the positive reviews cover a long period of time.  However, despite the numerous reviews over a long time, there still is no guarantee about the provider.  

If you wonder how a bad review gets removed just remember that the provider is paying rentmen for the ad.  If the provider threatens to cancel his ad or is a good "con" man, the bad review will be removed from the ad.  Money talks!

 

 

[former lurker]

2 hours ago, coriolis888 said:

Providers use various methods to have a bad review removed from their rentmen advertisement.  

If you see a rentmen ad that shows only five star reviews, make sure you see many positive reviews in the ad rather than just one or two positive reviews.  Also, look at the length of time the provider has been advertising on rentmen.   

Sometimes providers change their screen name after they accumulate several bad reviews.  That way, they can pretend to be a new advertiser.  We, as clients, must realize that a new advertiser could be simply an old advertiser with a new screen name.  

Numerous positive reviews give more assurance the provider is valid if the positive reviews cover a long period of time.  However, despite the numerous reviews over a long time, there still is no guarantee about the provider.  

If you wonder how a bad review gets removed just remember that the provider is paying rentmen for the ad.  If the provider threatens to cancel his ad or is a good "con" man, the bad review will be removed from the ad.  Money talks!

 

 

Changing names and changing accounts are distinct acts. Changing one's handle doesn't delete one's reviews.  If you had an RM chat and the provider changed names the old chat will link to the new ad.  My take on how reliable any review is has a lot to do with the reviewer's other reviews and whether they seem credible and unbiased. The more specific the review, the more I can assess the criteria applied by the reviewer. Some clients have decision rules (no face pix, kissing not guaranteed, etc.,  no hire).  Other's balance all the info they can acquire and make a case by case assessment.  Ultimately, you have to see what works best for you -- recognizing that there is always a degree of uncertainty and thus risk, and some of us are more risk averse than others.