Late Escorts and Cancelations

[ad rian]

>Patience is next to Godliness. Actually it's just the flip

>side of Cleanliness, but it's still pretty fucking

>important.

 

Isn't promptness next to professonalism too? I don't mind if a regular is a little late, but for a new escort to come late reminds me of someone coming late to their first date of work; not a good sign. Actually, I think lateness is like an escort asking for money up front. It is a sign things aen't going to go well so from my experience now, I think I cancel after 30 minutes unless it a regular in which case I have some past performance to guide me.

[ad rian]

I know this has probably been discussed before so apologies to the old-timers but since this just happened to me tonight I thought I would ask. How late does an escort have to be for an appointment for it to be legitimate for a client to call back and cancel - 15 minutes, half an hour, an hour, etc.? Does the escort's excuse matter? Thoughts?

[Rod Hagen]

Patience is next to Godliness. Actually it's just the flip side of Cleanliness, but it's still pretty fucking important. -Less Than Zero (the film, not book)

[+ deej]

It's gonna depend on the escort, the travel distance, and the locale.

 

In NYC, Chicago, or LA, traffic is so freaking unpredictable a guy can leave an hour earlier than normal and still arrive late.

 

Hopefully, they'll have cell phones and they'll call. They don't always.

 

One guy in Vegas actually arrived on time, but at the wrong hotel. He called the hotel and the operator answered "Mirage and Treasure Island". I was at the latter, but he went to my room # at the former. Fortunately, he observed a female using her card to get into that room and didn't knock. I caught him on his cell phone about 30 minutes later and we cleared that up and had a fabulous romp.

 

This is one of those "there's no right answer" questions.

[jimmer]

One of my regulars is chronically late for our overnight apppointments in NYC. I just add an hour to the agreeded upon time. I know when he arrives, I'm going to have a great time, so what's the difference?

 

Jimmer

[Bilbo]

Don't forget that some of us just absolutely get lost. That almost always happens to me in those aesthetically unpleasing apartment complexes which are like four square blocks of the same building. Of course, there you know that I've called you from the front gate. The absolutely worst time that I ever got lost was once on the way to a client in Dallas. Streets that seem to end and don't! And just before your address, too! And I can surely sympathisize with guys getting lost here in Houston. Our streets keep going but change names. When they joined two major streets - Montrose and Studewood - they named the connecting part Studemont. So depending on where you are on that street, you have their choice of three names. Do most travelling escorts (that haven't been sent for) try to only do incalls?

[ad rian]

>One of my regulars is chronically late for our overnight

>apppointments in NYC. I just add an hour to the agreeded

>upon time. I know when he arrives, I'm going to have a great

>time, so what's the difference?

>

There may be a couple of differences. First, with a regular, you have some past performance to guide you about what the experience will be like, but for a new escort it seems like a sign of potential problems to come. Second, being an hour late for an overnight, is not the same as being an hour late for a one hour appointment. Third, frankly, I hate the wasted time while I wait for him to arrive, and if I have something to do the next day or later that evening, the late arrival can seriously throw off my body-clock or schedule.

[chrismac]

ad rian - I agree with your points. I travel a lot for my business, often to places for the first time. I always allow enough time for getting lost, or traffic. Often I'm early to the point of waiting 15 to 30 minutes in the parking lot or lobby for the appointed time. I have had a couple of times where even this padding hasn't been enough, and when it's clear I'll be late, I call ahead of the appointment time with my apologies and location, and there was no problem.

 

I'd feel the same way about an escort, providing he called (before, or at the appointed time - not 15 to 30 minutes after). One time, however, I hired an escort (he shall remain nameless, but he considers himself "Excellent" and is a "Top") who showed up an hour late, no call, no apology or explanation once he arrived. I felt this showed total disrespect for me. And he had a cell phone in perfect working order; I know this because he had a call once he did arrive.

 

If someone shows up more than 10 minutes late without calling, the excuse would need to center around their cell phone unexpectedly not working, or the circuits are busy, or there are no pay phones located in the area.

[Guest regulation]

It depends on what else you have to do that evening. Most of the escorts I have hired have arrived late, but I always budget extra time with that in mind and have only canceled an appointment for that reason once. The escort in question was about an hour and a half late. He, not I, had suggested we have dinner together first, and so I waited dinner for him until well past my usual dinner hour. During the time I was waiting he called several times from his cell phone to assure me that he would arrive "in a few minutes." After about ninety minutes I finally responded by telling him to forget the appointment. I then went to dinner and afterwards called someone else -- who was only half an hour late.

 

In light of my experiences it always brings a smile to my face when I see escorts complaining about clients who aren't very scrupulous about ending the appointment the moment the hour is over or who object when asked to pay for extra time. I wonder if it would make any difference to the punctuality of escorts if we clients deducted from their fees a sum of money representing the amount of our time that they waste by arriving late? Probably not. :-)

[Traveller]

Very simple rule: 15 minutes for every inch over 8 inches.

 

Later.

[FrancoDiSantisxxx]

From the base?

 

>Very simple rule: 15 minutes for every inch over 8 inches.

 

So Michael Brandon and Chris Sullivan get to be 30 minutes late, Rod Hagan must be 15 minutes early and I get 7.5 to 15 minutes extra?

 

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[ad rian]

>It depends on what else you have to do that evening. Most

>of the escorts I have hired have arrived late, but I always

>budget extra time with that in mind and have only canceled

>an appointment for that reason once.

 

Seeing this post reminded me that prior to last night, I only canceled one appointment for lateness. In that instance, the guy kept calling back every 15 minutes to say he was almost at my place. After about 45 minutes of this he became verbally abusive so I decided to terminate. He then became even more abusive and threatened to talk to my neighbors and to put me on client shit list.

 

I reviewed him, but after one day Hoo took down the review saying that the guy was being stalked and that he, Hoo was investigating. The review never went up, but I have seen positive reviews of that creep since. I think Hoo provides a good service here, but I must admit I never understood why my review was never allowed to stand. It was clear to me that by the guy's attitude this was not all an extraordinary experience. I am glad I did cancel because, I think it would have been very bad given his abuse.

 

Be that as it may, let me thow out another aspect of all this. I guess when an escort is late, I imagine that he is stating over with another client and has misjudged time, and that thought for me at least is a deal-stopper. Escorts, is double-booking the real reason for your tardiness?

[chrismac]

>In light of my experiences it always brings a smile to my

>face when I see escorts complaining about clients who aren't

>very scrupulous about ending the appointment the moment the

>hour is over or who object when asked to pay for extra time.

> I wonder if it would make any difference to the punctuality

>of escorts if we clients deducted from their fees a sum of

>money representing the amount of our time that they waste by

>arriving late? Probably not. :-)

 

Good point. In the couple of instances where the escort was late, I expected and received at least the same amount of time on the back end, but sitting around for an hour waiting for someone, foregoing dinner or other plans, is just the shits - especially if they don't even have the common decency to call.

 

I guess 10-15 minutes tardiness isn't too unreasonable, but I still expect a phone call.

[Guest regulation]

>Seeing this post reminded me that prior to last night, I

>only canceled one appointment for lateness. In that

>instance, the guy kept calling back every 15 minutes to say

>he was almost at my place. After about 45 minutes of this

>he became verbally abusive so I decided to terminate. He

>then became even more abusive and threatened to talk to my

>neighbors and to put me on client shit list.

>

>I reviewed him, but after one day Hoo took down the review

>saying that the guy was being stalked and that he, Hoo was

>investigating. The review never went up, but I have seen

>positive reviews of that creep since. I think Hoo provides

>a good service here, but I must admit I never understood why

>my review was never allowed to stand.

 

 

So who was the escort? At least you can report your experience with him here or in the Deli section.

 

If you are a relative newcomer here, you may not have noticed that "stalker" is one of the standard ways in which escorts respond to clients who post negative reviews or comments on this site. Another is to accuse the client of being on drugs or of having bad hygiene. Such accusations should always be treated with extreme skepticism.

[ad rian]

>So who was the escort? At least you can report your

>experience with him here or in the Deli section.

 

That was last year so I really have put it behind me. I jus

>

>If you are a relative newcomer here, you may not have

>noticed that "stalker" is one of the standard ways in which

>escorts respond to clients who post negative reviews or

>comments on this site.

 

The accusation was not made about me if I understood Hoo correctly, and Hoo acknowledged after his "investigation" that I was not "the" stalker, but I found it strange that having been on the receiving end of the threats, my review was not put back up after his investigation cleared me. At any rate, that experience is what led me last night to pull the plug after 45 minutes and 3 calls later on. I think I made the right decision despite the fact that he is a hot new entry on Rentboy. The lateness plus some other "familiar" Rentboy signs made me unwilling to give the benefit of the doubt.

[Guest regulation]

>>So who was the escort? At least you can report your

>>experience with him here or in the Deli section.

>

>That was last year so I really have put it behind me. I jus

 

 

Yes, I believe "I want to put it behind me" is Reason #148 in the list of reasons not to post negative information about escorts so that your fellow site members won't get burned. Or is it Reason #147? I forget.

 

>The accusation was not made about me if I understood Hoo

>correctly, and Hoo acknowledged after his "investigation"

>that I was not "the" stalker, but I found it strange that

>having been on the receiving end of the threats, my review

>was not put back up after his investigation cleared me.

 

If by "strange" you mean "unusual" I would have to disagree. That sort of thing happens here all the time. :-)

[Bilbo]

Has anyone else noticed that just because this part of the site is labeled "ask an escort" no one much who is not an escort has allowed it to be a wet blanket on his aspirations to discuss things here just as if we were in the other sections of the site? Love you all dearly, just like brothers (I think, can't swear to it since I never had a birth brother), but if you're going to answer for us instead of waiting for us to answer, could we please remember the motto of the site "Be nice. Nice is good."

 

Oops, that's the motto of the daily recipe ezine that I subscribe to. My bad. :+

[guyinsf]

I do not think that HooBoy posts "reviews" of appointments that were not consummated. You have to have an actual "performance" to review. I think this is more appropriately a "no show" listing. Perhaps I am confused: By "review" did you mean that you wrote a "no show" review?

[ad rian]

>I do not think that HooBoy posts "reviews" of appointments

>that were not consummated. You have to have an actual

>"performance" to review. I think this is more appropriately

>a "no show" listing. Perhaps I am confused: By "review"

>did you mean that you wrote a "no show" review?

 

It happened before the "No Show" category was created. It is a silly policy because people should be warned of an abusive escort, and at least in that instance, the threatened abuse ocurred before it was consumated. My review described the lateness and abuse. It's Hoo's site so it's his call. I just disagree.

[Rod Hagen]

RE: From the base?

 

Excellent. Very VERY funny. BRAVO. :* :+ }> :7

[Guest Merlin]

Most escorts are late, and the ones who are prompt are in the definite minority. How long I wait depends on how much I want to see him and what else I have to do. From experience, some great escorts are often late. They seem to think time is not important.

[Michael]

> Has anyone else noticed that just because this part of the

> site is labeled "ask an escort" no one much who is not an

> escort has allowed it to be a wet blanket on his aspirations

> to discuss things here just as if we were in the other

> sections of the site?

 

Oh, didn't you know that non-escorts can post anything they like on here so long as they remember Alex Trebek's admonition that all of their replies "must be phrased in the form of a question"?

[ad rian]

>Oh, didn't you know that non-escorts can post anything they

>like on here so long as they remember Alex Trebek's

>admonition that all of their replies "must be phrased in the

>form of a question"?

 

Frankly, I think people post here and want to hear from escorts, but for some reason few escorts actually reply when the questions are controversial. Instead of complaining, why don't either or both of you respond to the question. I for one woyuldtruly like to hear an escort's perspective, and it would be nice to exchange views about it. Unfortunately, some escorts who post here, don't want to defend their views.

[Michael]

>

> Instead of complaining, why don't either or both of you respond

> to the question.

>

 

*sigh*

 

... a little humor impaired today are we?

 

I didn't think that Bilbo was complaining, just making a comment, and I was simply trying (and obviously failing) to inject a little humor into the thread.

 

However, since you ask, the answer is 42.

[ad rian]

>I was simply trying (and obviously failing) to

>inject a little humor into the thread.

>

Please forgive me if I missed the humor, but practice makes perfect, I guess!