Oral Sex.......The Big Three......The Risks

[Godiva]

How safe is oral sex? If this has been covered before I apologize..but it is always good to be reminded again..

 

Safe Sex..I am talkin about "The Big Three"..Kissing, Rimming and Sucking.

 

We have heard stories about escorts/clients sucking with condoms, rimming with plastic and Dry Kissing..

 

I guess I want to know the odds of contracting any virus this way..

Does anyone know of anyone whom has gotten sick form this type of activity? With all the Kissing, Rimming and Sucking going on it is strange how we never hear of anyone here getting sick. Which leads me to believe..We are all extremely lucky or there is a whole lotta lying going on..

 

Incidentally Oral Sex is the sex of choice for high schoolers as per the Morning Shows today..

[+ deej]

"Aid for AIDS" is a non-profit organization that does good work. They also have a website that has good information:

 

http://www.aidforaids.net/

 

It is not the be-all and end-all source, but it should give you something to think about.

 

There is no such thing as "safe sex". There is only safer sex, and the risks you find acceptable for yourself.

 

Be informed, and live within your own personal set of limits.

[+ Charlie]

You would have to have open sores or membranes in your mouth (such as periodontal disease), and would have to have very long, sloppy kisses with someone whose body fluids were saturated with HIV in order to contract AIDS from kissing (I don't think there is any documented case of HIV transmission from kissing). Of course, there are other viruses and bacteria that can be transmitted through kissing, so it's not a good idea to French kiss someone with obvious respiratory infections.

 

The danger in rimming is not from HIV but intestinal parasites, like giardia, that can be pretty nasty and resistant to treatment.

 

Sucking cock/swallowing cum doesn't seem to be very high risk for HIV in either theory or data, but it is not "no risk", and you can contract other STDs from this practice.:-(

[Godiva]

Thanxs Deej and Charlie for your response..Do either or you know anyone personally who contracted anything from these three ways?

[+ Italiano]

>Thanxs Deej and Charlie for your response..Do either or you

>know anyone personally who contracted anything from these

>three ways?

 

I DO know someone who contracted ghonorrea from having his dick sucked...

[+ deej]

>Thanxs Deej and Charlie for your response..Do either or you

>know anyone personally who contracted anything from these

>three ways?

 

Actually, I do. There was much hand-holding and soul-searching.

 

Syphilis is on a rise of epidemic proportions right now, and all it takes is a kiss.

 

It's ironic, really. Condoms were invented to prevent Syphilis. Syphylis is spreading today because guys aren't using condoms.

 

What would be the take-away message you'd get from that information?

[+ Charlie]

I've known several people who have contracted intestinal parasites from rimming. I also know someone who got a serious infection in his throat from sucking the wrong cock.

[Godiva]

These "Intestinal Parasites"..is it something that is cured with medication.

 

With all the sucking and licking going on around here.. has anyone caught anything yet via these methods of pleasure?

[+ Charlie]

Yes, it is not uncommon to get infections like giardiasis from rimming the wrong ass, or from sucking a cock that has not been properly cleaned after removal from the wrong ass. And yes, these infections can be cured with medication, but the treatment isn't pleasant, and may not be effective if your immune system is compromised.

[FrancoDiSantisxxx]

Risk Reduction

 

It is probably not a very good stance for an escort to state but truly safe sex would have to be by yourself in the comfort of your own home provided there are no risks of earthquakes or other natural phenomena.

 

The concept of safe sex has long been disproven. What is more ideally discussed and promoted now is intelligent harm reduction, which includes not only the sexual acts you engage in but the pattern and behavior around sex: drug use, amount of partners, group activity, etc.

 

There are several web sites which can be found, not all of which deal primarily with HIV. Try the term "risk reduction" as a search basis.

 

As for rimming, it is also important to not merely think of it as oral anal activity as far as risk go. As a top, I always insert my fingers inside someone and then smell my finger. I also make sure I wash my hands. A risk would arise if I had inserted my fingers inside someone and then touched their nipples and then licked that same nipple. Or if I were to insert my hands inside my partner's mouth, as two graphic examples.

 

As for oral sex, it is possible to get any number of STDS outside HIV.

 

Above all else, it is possible to get something like scabbie or lice without any penetration or kissing at all.

 

Certain things do not have any symptoms, at least not clear and obvious ones so it is important to be aware of anything in your body which may change and to discuss with at least one of the toll free STD hot lines, no matter how small your own town may be.

 

The message is to be aware, to communicate with all your partners, to pay attention to unusual behavior in your body.

[Godiva]

RE: Risk Reduction

 

Thanxs Charlie and Franco for your advice..Franco one thing that occured to me is that most escorts that I have been with never really washed their hands after they inserted fingers in their own asses. I made sure to avoid those fingers the rest of the evening.:*

 

What are scabbies and lice and how do you get them? Thanxs in advance for your wealth of info.

[FrancoDiSantisxxx]

STDs

 

Unfortunately, at least on AOL, most young men believe that stating you are D/D free, and by that meaning really that they do not use party drugs such as crystal meth nor are they HIV positive, they have covered all of the necessary "bases." Alcohol, as with any other factor which might contribute to pyscho-sexual behavior patterns - insecurity, self-esteem, etc., could lend itself to risky behavior as great, if not greater, than crystal use. Steroids are another example of what is thought of as a perfectly safe and legal drug which, when abused without thought to the consequence which might arise from its misuse, can lead to negative after effects.

 

One final word on drug use: I am a former alter boy, possibly the only homosexual who never had a priest attempt to go down on him, but I do not pretend to be a saint. I have used drugs, as recently as this past New Year's Eve, rarely with a first time client and even then that is the exception, not the rule. This is, as well, the case in my own personal life, but it is not the drug use I would condemn, but any behavior which is going to lead to impaired judgment, rash behavior, unhealthy behavior or anything which leads to behavior contrary to the individual's determined risk assessment.

 

I have made such as assessment for myself and believe that, for example, occasional albeit infrequent marijuana use is fine for me; this may not be the case for you or for others but such decisions must be made with information on the behavior - drug, drink, self-esteem, etc., - and how the behavior interacts with your judgment.

 

As for your questions about lice and scabbies, both are parasites, other living beings which use human blood or the human body to reproduce or live. An excellent site with answers about a man or woman's body and with an excellent general and easy to understand section on both HIV and STDs can be found here and everyone who is sexually active would benefit from checking it out: http://www.goaskalice.columbia.edu/Cat7.html - good luck to us all.