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I don't like many things about China, but I have to partially support what they are doing.

  • Launched anti-monopoly and data security actions against social media, video-games, and e-commerce giants.
  • Reduced children's access to online games which in China have reached levels of drug-addiction.
  • Stop promoting vulgar internet "celebrities" and stop the unhealthy admiration for wealthy "celebrities" on the media.

Much of what China has done above already went out of control in North America decades ago, and I don't think there's any hope to regulate it because tech giants (Google, Facebook, Amazon) already have too much power to the point that they influence and are part of the government, and celebrities' content generates huge income for them. It doesn't matter if it makes population vain and stupid, as long as it creates capital for the big tech corporations.

The news articles don't mention specifics to say if they are banning gay men or just effeminate men. I think effeminate men should be widely accepted without any judgment but I don't think they should be promoted as role models, especially when they are seen on TV by impressionable children and teens.

It doesn't hurt to promote the values of masculinity on men of any sexual orientation, unless of course, a man decides to embrace all feminine aesthetics because that's what he likes and that's who he is, that's fair. But every time I visit the gay village in my city I see less and less masculine men, and it has become sad, depressing, and frustrating. I kind of miss the 50s, 60s, and 70s. Nowadays being gay and being masculine have grown over time to almost be mutually exclusive traits.

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7 hours ago, lonely_john said:

I kind of miss the 50s, 60s, and 70s. Nowadays being gay and being masculine have grown over time to almost be mutually exclusive traits.

The 50’s 60’s ‘70’s when you could be thrown in jail for having a quiet conversation with the wrong man? When we invoke the personal joys of the past, it can be dismissive of the misery and destruction caused by religion, law and popular opinion at that time. Lots more straight men now are breaking the masculine stereotype and being comfortable with some degree of androgyny. Soft boys can get plenty of straight girls.


Gay men still run the gamut of social behavior perceptions, but even fem’s are generally less scary than we were to SWM. I like that sign of evolution.

It’s all part of the continuum of gaining true equality.

As for now, China seems to be focused on media. Who knows if it’s cracking a door open to more aggressive cultural and legal blocks ahead. 
If China decides at some point it doesn’t want to do business with US on account of LGBTQ acceptance in our culture, you can expect money will win the day, and neighbors will be after the $10,000 bounty to round us up.

Lets put a pin in this story and see if it goes further. Maybe it won’t. I hope.

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17 hours ago, lonely_john said:

I don't like many things about China, but I have to partially support what they are doing.

  • Launched anti-monopoly and data security actions against social media, video-games, and e-commerce giants.
  • Reduced children's access to online games which in China have reached levels of drug-addiction.
  • Stop promoting vulgar internet "celebrities" and stop the unhealthy admiration for wealthy "celebrities" on the media.

Much of what China has done above already went out of control in North America decades ago, and I don't think there's any hope to regulate it because tech giants (Google, Facebook, Amazon) already have too much power to the point that they influence and are part of the government, and celebrities' content generates huge income for them. It doesn't matter if it makes population vain and stupid, as long as it creates capital for the big tech corporations.

The news articles don't mention specifics to say if they are banning gay men or just effeminate men. I think effeminate men should be widely accepted without any judgment but I don't think they should be promoted as role models, especially when they are seen on TV by impressionable children and teens.

It doesn't hurt to promote the values of masculinity on men of any sexual orientation, unless of course, a man decides to embrace all feminine aesthetics because that's what he likes and that's who he is, that's fair. But every time I visit the gay village in my city I see less and less masculine men, and it has become sad, depressing, and frustrating. I kind of miss the 50s, 60s, and 70s. Nowadays being gay and being masculine have grown over time to almost be mutually exclusive traits.

You can start an organization promoting masculinity in men and femininity in women, etc. if you believe in that. I doubt that many taxpayers are interested in funding such an endeavor. 

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5 hours ago, marylander1940 said:

Are they going to allow on TV men of a certain macho type only?

Without knowing more specifics about the ban, my interpretation of the articles is that they will allow all kinds of men even if they are not macho types, but they won't allow men who make an extra effort to exhibit feminine fashion (make up, hair colour, flamboyant clothes) and feminine mannerisms, especially if they are public figures or (social) media personalities and celebrities who based their popularity on the exploitation of these traits.

Another interesting reading is the one of Al Jazeera. They say they are doing this as a mechanism of control because young people are paying more attention to popular celebrities and supporting them monetarily via 'Fan Clubs'. These show biz personalities have committed tax evasion crimes. Being the role models that they are for the young, they represent a threat for the stability of their socialist values.

 

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1 hour ago, Pensant said:

It’s surprising to see how chubby the Chinese youth are becoming.

Probably another side effect of the "westernization" of China, but I wouldn't be too surprised. They have allowed all major American fast food chains in the country and as far as I know traditional Chinese food can be very high in fat, salt, and sugar.

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