is it safe to hire right now?

[+ tassojunior]

every situation is different.

[Jarrod_Uncut]

No it's not safe...after the pandemic

 

My point exactly. But was it ever? Since when is it ever 100% SAFE to hire? There’s stings, STDs, catfishes, robbers, unauthorized drugs, paper trails, meddling neighbors, unexpected partners showing up...list goes on. WHY all of a sudden is it NOT safe to hire? That’s the whole point I’m making, as to why the fear and judging is absolutely unfounded. We’ve been taking risks all this time, and only now....NOW, it’s a big deal.

 

Just to add...because it seems some people have been offended by my comment, which wasn’t mean to be insensitive. I found that meme to tweak curiosity and mirror what we’re dealing with (although I don’t promote the words “Americans for limited government”.

 

Yes, the panic now is bigger than the virus. But the key is to minimize. Instead of asking if it’s safe: You don’t want to infect the escort, which is sensible...then you can get tested. Then make the right decision from there.

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My point exactly. But was it ever? Since when is it ever 100% SAFE to hire? There’s stings, STDs, catfishes, robbers, unauthorized drugs, paper trails, meddling neighbors, unexpected partners showing up...list goes on. WHY all of a sudden is it NOT safe to hire? That’s the whole point I’m making, as to why the fear and judging is absolutely unfounded. We’ve been taking risks all this time, and only now....NOW, it’s a big deal.

 

Just to add...because it seems some people have been offended by my comment, which wasn’t mean to be insensitive. I found that meme to tweak curiosity and mirror what we’re dealing with (although I don’t promote the words “Americans for limited government”.

 

Yes, the panic now is bigger than the virus. But the key is to minimize. Instead of asking if it’s safe: You don’t want to infect the escort, which is sensible...then you can get tested. Then make the right decision from there.

That is a very sensible comment. Agree completely. As many good experiences I have had, there is always some danger involved in hiring.

[carnalvore]

My point exactly. But was it ever? Since when is it ever 100% SAFE to hire? There’s stings, STDs, catfishes, robbers, unauthorized drugs, paper trails, meddling neighbors, unexpected partners showing up...list goes on. WHY all of a sudden is it NOT safe to hire? That’s the whole point I’m making, as to why the fear and judging is absolutely unfounded. We’ve been taking risks all this time, and only now....NOW, it’s a big deal.

 

Just to add...because it seems some people have been offended by my comment, which wasn’t mean to be insensitive. I found that meme to tweak curiosity and mirror what we’re dealing with (although I don’t promote the words “Americans for limited government”.

 

Yes, the panic now is bigger than the virus. But the key is to minimize. Instead of asking if it’s safe: You don’t want to infect the escort, which is sensible...then you can get tested. Then make the right decision from there.

 

What is different is that your risk taking likely affects a lot of people. IT’S NOT ALL ABOUT YOU. You must not care if you kill your aunt, or work colleagues, or some random person who happens to be near you when you sneeze. Or you might end up taking a ventilator needed by someone else. The ones who want to "open up America" should be tracked and forced to go to the end of the line if they get sick.

[Jarrod_Uncut]

You guys do realize this is a highly contagious form of pneumonia right? This isn't sensible at all and no it you can't compare it to stings, paper trails, drugs, etc. That's just plain ignorant.

 

What’s plain ignorant is giving people the false sense of belief that this period is any less safe than any other period, after that after this pandemic is “over”, it’ll be “safe” to hire again. The reason why I mentioned those things, is to make the point that even if and when this thing is long gone, it doesn’t make the biz (or any OTHER type of meeting with a stranger, for sex) any more or less safe than it was around this time last year.

 

Think about the times of serial killers. Do you think people (specifically sex workers) didn’t have their fears and doubts during the time? Was it suddenly “safe” once the killer was caught? Or did people still need to practice common sense, screening, and health assessments?

 

You can huff and puff and tell me it’s different all you want. Whether you wish to see me or not is your prerogative. But when push comes to shove, we’re talking about SAFTEY. And I’m not going to let someone who’s not a sex worker themselves, tell me how to handle my business. Your anger is misdirected. If you’re going to be upset at me, also be upset at the clients who are wanting to have a bit of relaxation for an hour or 2.

 

And my last 2 clients were fit clients who were also business owners with big bank accounts. It’s not like I’m out here pulling senior citizens out of wheel chairs. Don’t be dramatic.

[former lurker]

What’s plain ignorant is giving people the false sense of belief that this period is any less safe than any other period, after that after this pandemic is “over”, it’ll be “safe” to hire again. The reason why I mentioned those things, is to make the point that even if and when this thing is long gone, it doesn’t make the biz (or any OTHER type of meeting with a stranger, for sex) any more or less safe than it was around this time last year.

 

Think about the times of serial killers. Do you think people (specifically sex workers) didn’t have their fears and doubts during the time? Was it suddenly “safe” once the killer was caught? Or did people still need to practice common sense, screening, and health assessments?

 

You can huff and puff and tell me it’s different all you want. Whether you wish to see me or not is your prerogative. But when push comes to shove, we’re talking about SAFTEY. And I’m not going to let someone who’s not a sex worker themselves, tell me how to handle my business. Your anger is misdirected. If you’re going to be upset at me, also be upset at the clients who are wanting to have a bit of relaxation for an hour or 2.

 

But it IS less safe than other times while a highly contagious virus is rampant and we have neither the capacity to test everyone for it nor any vaccine or known treatment. You are correct that even without coraona/covid-19 there are substantial risks to hiring/providing sexual services (or randomly hooking up with strangers). But this is of an order of magnitude more severe. If you are not seeking to downplay the existing dangers from covid-19, you should be clear in saying that because it sounds like you're saying there's always risk so this is no different. It is different. Condoms, PReP, antiobiotics, etc., are not means available to mitigate those risks. And while there's always a risk of encountering a serial killer, there are means to minimize the likelihood and the incidence of serial killers in the population is much, much less frequent than the spread of corona.

[Jarrod_Uncut]

What is different is that your risk taking likely affects a lot of people. IT’S NOT ALL ABOUT YOU. You must not care if you kill your aunt, or work colleagues, or some random person who happens to be near you when you sneeze. Or you might end up taking a ventilator needed by someone else. The ones who want to "open up America" should be tracked and forced to go to the end of the line if they get sick.

 

It was never about ME. Period. And don’t go presumptively accusing me of being some type of serial killer. Because that is being a drama queen.

 

Again too with you, your anger is misplaced. Example: last Easter I went to go visit a friend at his house. He was alone, and needed company. However, he also informed me he had watched his nephews the night before AND...had his frat brothers over prior to my arrival.

 

So...should I have blamed him for hypothetically “exposing” me, because he had other people around him, before I came over? Absolutely not. So how in the ?, should I or any other sex worker (or gay man on Grindr, adam, Scruff, etc etc etc) working in a 1 on 1 capacity, be blamed for killing people...who I’ve not even met?

 

I haven’t met my “aunts” in over 3-4 years lol. There’s hardly any aunts left to kill lol. 1 died when I was younger of asthma, one from a brain tumor, my grandma died of cancer, 3 grandfathers died of prostate cancer....long before COVID 19 was even a word.

 

Have a seat. And a chill pill. Please. Thankyou.

[bendable2019]

a family member is about to die and I'm about to become a freaking wreck.

 

I'm one of those 'just hold me' people.

 

but it's not safe to hire now; is it?

 

I'll have to endure the grief alone.

 

The answer is NO! PERIOD! If you wanna die, go ahead hire as many as you possibly can! ? And no one will come to your funeral!

[Jarrod_Uncut]

But it IS less safe than other times while a highly contagious virus is rampant and we have neither the capacity to test everyone for it nor any vaccine or known treatment. You are correct that even without coraona/covid-19 there are substantial risks to hiring/providing sexual services (or randomly hooking up with strangers). But this is of an order of magnitude more severe. If you are not seeking to downplay the existing dangers from covid-19, you should be clear in saying that because it sounds like you're saying there's always risk so this is no different. It is different. Condoms, PReP, antiobiotics, etc., are not means available to mitigate those risks. And while there's always a risk of encountering a serial killer, there are means to minimize the likelihood and the incidence of serial killers in the population is much, much less frequent than the spread of corona.

 

But how many people actually survive when confronted with a serial killer, versus COVID 19? Remember, most people are recovering. Bless their soul the ones who have died, but...so did the flu, asthma, hiv, diabetes, cancer, etc etc, etc.

 

I’m not downplaying anything. But, what I’m not going to do, is paint the business as being unsafe now, and more safe last year.

[Jarrod_Uncut]

The answer is NO! PERIOD! If you wanna die, go ahead hire as many as you possibly can! ? And no one will come to your funeral!

 

Good Lord. You sound worse than these guys:

 

 

Just for the record: I’ve been taking visits all this time. I’m still alive. And been checking with all my clients, they too are still alive. And I keep seeing the same guys ad infinite online, and considering I’m sure they’re also hooking up...without my help, are still alive.

 

Let’s all come back to earth. Please, and thankyou.

[MrMattBig]

 

Just for the record: I’ve been taking visits all this time. I’m still alive. And been checking with all my clients, they too are still alive.

 

This part is fine. Your risks are your risks. Stop saying it's not less safe though. When refrigerator trucks have to store the dead, it's time to pause and think. Point blank.

Question is as well: will you be able to deal with the scenario of getting sick and finding out out after checking in on clients that one of them is gravely ill?

Or vice versa.

Nevermind it hasn't happened yet, do you feel you are emotionally ready to handle that burden of responsibility knowing that intimate get together could be the source?

[Jarrod_Uncut]

This part is fine. Your risks are your risks. Stop saying it's not less safe though. When refrigerator trucks have to store the dead, it's time to pause and think. Point blank.

Question is as well: will you be able to deal with the scenario of getting sick and finding out out after checking in on clients that one of them is gravely ill?

Or vice versa.

Nevermind it hasn't happened yet, do you feel you are emotionally ready to handle that burden of responsibility knowing that intimate get together could be the source?

 

One word: Hypothetically. That’s the examples you’re giving me. Yes, bodies are being stored in refrigerator trucks. But my question is, is it the first time? I think not. Remember this:

 

 

Someone earlier said it’s not all about me. And I’m glad they said that. They are absolutely, 100% right it’s not all about me. Because if it was, clients wouldn’t be calling me asking if I’m available.

 

Again, it goes back to those 2 valuable words: 2 consenting adults. All the riff raff and extra scenarios, are just unnecessary chatter. Nothing more to say to it. I’m done with this conversation.

 

And yes, I will say it’s not less safe. Ever since this, all my clients have been wonderful, I’ve been dealing with less BS, and people have been a lot nicer overall. Clients have also been offering hand sanitizer, taking extra steps for hygiene, and being more understanding. So yeah, I’d say it’s definitely a safe time to hire and be hired right now. Are we not entitled to opinions, or does everyone want to hear the same ole, repetitive responses and not learn or be open to anything different?

 

Defeats the purpose of a conversation if you ask me.

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[MrMattBig]

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Again, it goes back to those 2 valuable words: 2 consenting adults.

This point is exactly why I say your risks are your risks. I get it stop, stop drilling down on this, when I am saying your risks are your risks and I see and get this point.

 

One word: Hypothetically. That’s the examples you’re giving me. Yes, bodies are being stored in refrigerator trucks. But my question is, is it the first time? I think not. Remember this:

 

 

 

Second, this graphic illustrates the flu burden, it does not say that because of illness refrigerator trucks have stored the dead before. And even it did, should we resign to accept it because it's happened before, or try and stop it?

 

And the hypothetical?

It's a valid emotional exercise, one every adult taking any risk should be able to run through, so they can be prepared for the consequences, if they should arise.

And trust me, from first hand experience from a non Covid situation, when you know you could have done more to safe someone, or possibly or partially responsible for someone's death, it is not an easy thing to deal with.

[former lurker]

But how many people actually survive when confronted with a serial killer, versus COVID 19? Remember, most people are recovering. Bless their soul the ones who have died, but...so did the flu, asthma, hiv, diabetes, cancer, etc etc, etc.

 

I’m not downplaying anything. But, what I’m not going to do, is paint the business as being unsafe now, and more safe last year.

 

When you draw those comparisons, that's exactly what you are doing -- minimizing the current risks. All of the other life threatening medical conditions you reference are distinct in that their transmission either doesn't exist (cancer, diabetes, asthma), they are treatable through diet or medication, or they have identified means of mitigating risk of transmission. That leaves the serial killer example. Last I checked, there aren't a rash of serial killers multiplying across the nation. Where I live, in one rehab/nursing home, 30 people died in the last two weeks from the covid-19 virus. That's one facility.

 

My uncle has been living with cancer for decades and it's now to the point where he is moving from his assisted living placement to a hospice. The hospice allows visitors (the assisted living facility has not for the past month or so). I know he is not likely to live until it is reasonably safe to gather. I face the difficult choice of seeing him before he dies and risking contracting or spreading the virus, or keeping my distance. My nephew strongly urges me to not visit. I may take the risk, but that's only because it's likely to be the last time we will see each other. I'd never choose to take those risks in order to hook up or hire. Those can wait until it's less dangerous.

[Jarrod_Uncut]

Or you can educate yourself and remember this:

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2020/04/16/coronavirus-leading-cause-death/?arc404=true

 

also from The W.H.O. Director:

 

While many people globally have built up immunity to seasonal flu strains, COVID-19 is a new virus to which no one has immunity. That means more people are susceptible to infection, and some will suffer severe disease.

 

Globally, about 3.4% of reported COVID-19 cases have died. By comparison, seasonal flu generally kills far fewer than 1% of those infected"

 

Do you dude but the great concern is justified. It's sad to see you spout nonsense when all the data is there.

 

You’re looking at statistics. I’m talking real life, day to day stuff.

 

What nonsense am I spouting? The fact that people shouldn’t have false sense of hopes of safety after the pandemic, considering all the stuff that goes around regardless? And to not judge others for their consensual 1 on 1 meetings, something that’s being going on for long before COVID 19.

 

Again, don’t take it personal.

This point is exactly why I say your risks are your risks. I get it stop, stop drilling down on this, when I am saying your risks are your risks and I see and get this point.

Second, this graphic illustrates the flu burden, it does not say that because of illness refrigerator trucks have stored the dead before. And even it did, should we resign to accept it because it's happened before, or try and stop it?

 

And trust me, from first hand experience from a non Covid situation, when you know you could have done more to safe someone, or possibly or partially responsible for someone's death, it is not an easy thing to deal with.

 

You’re absolutely right. Perhaps we all should stop driving as well, considering it’s contributing to global warming, and all the people who have died in car accidents. I don’t want to be responsible, for an accident:

 

 

 

 

But wait: isn’t that why we practice safe driving, seatbelts, and education? Same as with sex work: I’m not negating the risks or toll the virus has caused...BUT, that doesn’t mean to stop “doing me”, that just means using caution in the process...but isn’t that what we’ve (hopefully) been doing all along?

[Jarrod_Uncut]

When you draw those comparisons, that's exactly what you are doing -- minimizing the current risks. All of the other life threatening medical conditions you reference are distinct in that their transmission either doesn't exist (cancer, diabetes, asthma), they are treatable through diet or medication, or they have identified means of mitigating risk of transmission. That leaves the serial killer example. Last I checked, there aren't a rash of serial killers multiplying across the nation. Where I live, in one rehab/nursing home, 30 people died in the last two weeks from the covid-19 virus. That's one facility.

 

My uncle has been living with cancer for decades and it's now to the point where he is moving from his assisted living placement to a hospice. The hospice allows visitors (the assisted living facility has not for the past month or so). I know he is not likely to live until it is reasonably safe to gather. I face the difficult choice of seeing him before he dies and risking contracting or spreading the virus, or keeping my distance. My nephew strongly urges me to not visit. I may take the risk, but that's only because it's likely to be the last time we will see each other. I'd never choose to take those risks in order to hook up or hire. Those can wait until it's less dangerous.

 

My condolences. But at the end of the day: YOU can do what you want to or not do.

 

But what I’m saying: nobody should judge us, or our clients, for wanting to meet. Anything more is being judgmental.

 

What do people want to hear, “don’t meet anyone. You’re gonna die. Or kill everyone around you.” Well then if that’s how you feel, so be it. I’m not telling anyone to do anything. Stay home, remain celibate if that’s what you want to do. I’m not judging you. I’m going to go out here and fuck, like I’ve been doing, and be okay.

[former lurker]

My condolences. But at the end of the day: YOU can do what you want to or not do.

 

But what I’m saying: nobody should judge us, or our clients, for wanting to meet. Anything more is being judgmental.

 

What do people want to hear, “don’t meet anyone. You’re gonna die. Or kill everyone around you.” Well then if that’s how you feel, so be it. I’m not telling anyone to do anything. Stay home, remain celibate if that’s what you want to do. I’m not judging you. I’m going to go out here and fuck, like I’ve been doing, and be okay.

 

I hope you are okay, and that your clients are as well. And your friends, and their friends, and your family and theirs. I'm glad you're not judging. But you don't need to be judgemental to use good judgement.

[Jarrod_Uncut]

I hope you are okay, and that your clients are as well. And your friends, and their friends, and your family and theirs. I'm glad you're not judging. But you don't need to be judgemental to use good judgement.

 

I’m being judgmental in the least. I was referencing what another person had said, to another, about the level of risk faced when arranging a meet during this time.

 

I’m using good judgement. If using good judgement means not meeting someone privately, 1 on 1 in the comforts of our own home, then I’m going to repeat what I’ve already said: 1 you can’t assume someone has or hasn’t already had it, and at the end of the day it’s still between 2 consenting adults. Period. Its not your call, or their call, or anybody else’s call.

 

And regardless, there’s still a whole army of men out there who are looking and actively meeting other guys. Why? Because they want company or...perhaps other people are asking them to meet. So any qualms with me doing me, would be like trying to turn Lake Michigan into a desert, with a straw.

 

Lol I'm not taking it personally. Just correcting your dumb assertions. Also anecdotal knowledge is not superior to actual statistics. It's actually the opposite.

 

You do realize this whole board is on reviews and discussion of escorts and clients - which is full of judgements. Every interaction and discussion is based on judgements

 

Oh so now...you want me to look at the big picture of your example. And you’re using the forum to do so. Smart. Well in that case, you should be more open to differing opinions, considering each and every one of us are using our own what? Judgments.

 

Sounds you’ve lost traction trying to make your point, and now you want to resort to calling my assertions something other than what it actually is? Well then you tell me, what is a not dumb assertion? Every example is not going to be tit for tat for what the issue is. Because obviously this is something novel.

 

The point is all about the principle. Is driving safe? No. Is meeting up with a stranger in your home safe? No. But that’s why we make sensible decisions when doing so, to minimize the risk. There’s a difference between driving 100 mph, and driving the speed limit. There’s a difference between 2 healthy adults meeting in a private setting, versus being up close and personal with 10-20 people in a bar or bathhouse (not that I’ve ever caught anything from going to a bathhouse either...and I hope they can weather this because in some cities, they made for good late night crash out spots. Plus I’d always get my money’s worth because men are included, unlike with hotels...if you check in late, might waste money if nobody shows up).

 

This thread asked 1 thing: is it safe to hire right now. With everything going on, it’s easy to give a 1 size fits all answer: no it’s not, UNTIL this is over. Well, that’s simply not true. You still have to maintain a level of safety regardless.

[jjkrkwood]

My condolences. But at the end of the day: YOU can do what you want to or not do.

 

But what I’m saying: nobody should judge us, or our clients, for wanting to meet. Anything more is being judgmental.

 

What do people want to hear, “don’t meet anyone. You’re gonna die. Or kill everyone around you.” Well then if that’s how you feel, so be it. I’m not telling anyone to do anything. Stay home, remain celibate if that’s what you want to do. I’m not judging you. I’m going to go out here and fuck, like I’ve been doing, and be okay.

 

You continue to miss the point and make this only about YOU. YOUR actions can affect and infect others...You not only sound stupid and uneducated, but like a spoiled little horny brat as well. Dude, keep your dick in your pants and save Others from having to go thru a terrible disease. If you havent put money away for a rainy day, that's your problem.... Learn to manage your money better, pay taxes so you get a stimulus check and STOP advocating dangerous behavior. :mad:

[former lurker]

I’m being judgmental in the least. I was referencing what another person had said, to another, about the level of risk faced when arranging a meet during this time.

 

I’m using good judgement. If using good judgement means not meeting someone privately, 1 on 1 in the comforts of our own home, then I’m going to repeat what I’ve already said: 1 you can’t assume someone has or hasn’t already had it, and at the end of the day it’s still between 2 consenting adults. Period. Its not your call, or their call, or anybody else’s call.

 

And regardless, there’s still a whole army of men out there who are looking and actively meeting other guys. Why? Because they want company or...perhaps other people are asking them to meet. So any qualms with me doing me, would be like trying to turn Lake Michigan into a desert, with a straw.

 

 

 

Oh so now...you want me to look at the big picture of your example. And you’re using the forum to do so. Smart. Well in that case, you should be more open to differing opinions, considering each and every one of us are using our own what? Judgments.

 

Sounds you’ve lost traction trying to make your point, and now you want to resort to calling my assertions something other than what it actually is? Well then you tell me, what is a not dumb assertion? Every example is not going to be tit for tat for what the issue is. Because obviously this is something novel.

 

The point is all about the principle. Is driving safe? No. Is meeting up with a stranger in your home safe? No. But that’s why we make sensible decisions when doing so, to minimize the risk. There’s a difference between driving 100 mph, and driving the speed limit. There’s a difference between 2 healthy adults meeting in a private setting, versus being up close and personal with 10-20 people in a bar or bathhouse (not that I’ve ever caught anything from going to a bathhouse either...and I hope they can weather this because in some cities, they made for good late night crash out spots. Plus I’d always get my money’s worth because men are included, unlike with hotels...if you check in late, might waste money if nobody shows up).

 

This thread asked 1 thing: is it safe to hire right now. With everything going on, it’s easy to give a 1 size fits all answer: no it’s not, UNTIL this is over. Well, that’s simply not true. You still have to maintain a level of safety regardless.

 

You've dug yourself in. You retreat to the comfort of the trite phrase about two consenting adults. Of course no one is advocating the state bust into your home and break up a get together. But when you, with consent, choose to have intimate contact and eschew the medical advice to physically distance, you are choosing not only for yourself but for everyone with whom you come in contact even incidentally.

 

Beyond that, your resort to psychoanalyzing me or others across a keyboard is insulting, dismissive and reflects a lack of maturity on the subject. It's that lack of maturity that results in drawing lines and making comparisons to other risks that are plainly not analogous. It reads like an attempt to justify what you cannot justify on the merits. You should have left it at saying you are responsible for your own choices, and so are your clients. The rest of what you're saying is going through argumentative contortions.

[former lurker]

I’m being judgmental in the least. I was referencing what another person had said, to another, about the level of risk faced when arranging a meet during this time.

 

I’m using good judgement. If using good judgement means not meeting someone privately, 1 on 1 in the comforts of our own home, then I’m going to repeat what I’ve already said: 1 you can’t assume someone has or hasn’t already had it, and at the end of the day it’s still between 2 consenting adults. Period. Its not your call, or their call, or anybody else’s call.

 

And regardless, there’s still a whole army of men out there who are looking and actively meeting other guys. Why? Because they want company or...perhaps other people are asking them to meet. So any qualms with me doing me, would be like trying to turn Lake Michigan into a desert, with a straw.

 

 

 

Oh so now...you want me to look at the big picture of your example. And you’re using the forum to do so. Smart. Well in that case, you should be more open to differing opinions, considering each and every one of us are using our own what? Judgments.

 

Sounds you’ve lost traction trying to make your point, and now you want to resort to calling my assertions something other than what it actually is? Well then you tell me, what is a not dumb assertion? Every example is not going to be tit for tat for what the issue is. Because obviously this is something novel.

 

The point is all about the principle. Is driving safe? No. Is meeting up with a stranger in your home safe? No. But that’s why we make sensible decisions when doing so, to minimize the risk. There’s a difference between driving 100 mph, and driving the speed limit. There’s a difference between 2 healthy adults meeting in a private setting, versus being up close and personal with 10-20 people in a bar or bathhouse (not that I’ve ever caught anything from going to a bathhouse either...and I hope they can weather this because in some cities, they made for good late night crash out spots. Plus I’d always get my money’s worth because men are included, unlike with hotels...if you check in late, might waste money if nobody shows up).

 

This thread asked 1 thing: is it safe to hire right now. With everything going on, it’s easy to give a 1 size fits all answer: no it’s not, UNTIL this is over. Well, that’s simply not true. You still have to maintain a level of safety regardless.

 

Jarrod, I reread the bit of my prior post you quoted and see how you may have interpreted it differently than I intended. To clarify, I am saying you can be NON judgemental about the choices made by others, yet still exercise good judgement for yourself and those with whom you have contact.

[Jarrod_Uncut]

[MikeBiDude]

I’m using good judgement. If using good judgement means not meeting someone privately, 1 on 1 in the comforts of our own home, then I’m going to repeat what I’ve already said: 1 you can’t assume someone has or hasn’t already had it, and at the end of the day it’s still between 2 consenting adults. Period. Its not your call, or their call, or anybody else’s call.

Doesn’t this thinking ignore the fact that either “consenting adult” could be asymptomatic, now you’ve passed it to one/other and could be actively passing the virus to others outside the two of you? You’re now going outside the ring of “2 consenting adults” and possibly sharing virus with other, unknown 3rd parties.

[jjkrkwood]

 

The only difference here SIR is that YOUR opinion is dangerous , and potentially LETHAL I suppose you just don't value human life , and that's a CHARACTER FLAW you and the others you touch will have to Live or DIE with.

[Jarrod_Uncut]

could could possibly unknown