Sex Co-op?

[MidwestCoastal]

Earlier this year, my weekend 'regular' told me he had a BF that was a former client. In these modern times, I find myself wondering, why can't a group of clients get together and share one guy? My regular and I don't click on the BF level, more like FwB, but the sex is some of the best of my life. I'm not wealthy by all means, but beyond income, I have definitive perks to my job.... discounts on technology, travel, etc.... that I could share with a group. I can see this working for a provider that wants to build a career in a field or do something they are passionate about without worrying about income/lifestyle.

 

Has this ever been pondered or discussed?

 

Providers - Would you ever trade 'open' for 'closed with steady income/support'?

[dcman]

I have been curious about this very sort of thing myself as a possibility. Just a matter of matching up the right provider to the right group of clients.... Would be interesting to know if any groups currently exist and if they or provider would like to share details of how it works for them.

[+ sync]

Not intentionally throwing cold water onto innovation, but it appears dangerously close to mixing business with pleasure.

[MidwestCoastal]

So you're saying hiring for sex isn't mixing business with pleasure? If its not, then what is it? I'm confused.

 

This is just an extension of the business model... 3, 4, 5 clients with all the same regular... what's the difference?

[dcman]

PM might be a better choice for expanding the conversation on this subject.....?

[+ sync]

So you're saying hiring for sex isn't mixing business with pleasure? If its not, then what is it? I'm confused.

 

This is just an extension of the business model... 3, 4, 5 clients with all the same regular... what's the difference?

My thinking is that individual hiring is a "retail" transaction whereas "co-oping" is much more of a business environment.

[dcman]

Hey, who said anything about hiring for sex? I'm talking about massage and personal training......!!

[MrMattBig]

It would take a combination of an escort and the group of clients with the right frame of mind, circumstances, and expectations.

Averages don't fully apply in this business, more ranges, and I can't speak for other escorts but for me the higher end of my income range is $12,000+ per month after flight and hotel expenses. I would't be opposed to a co-op type arrangement, but the total compensation would have to be close to that upper range of my potential earnings to close up shop so to say, or would be open to negotiation if certain networking opportunities could arise from the group for me. I view escorting as running a business however, others who are escorting as a means to an ends might have a different outlook on what terms would be acceptable to them.

[mike carey]

Hi @MrMattBig that's a level of detail I haven't seen anyone else give in here, but it does demonstrate that there is limited incentive for escorts to enter into exclusive arrangements be they 'sugar daddy' or a collective such as the OP suggested. I can't say I'm surprised at where you are in the financial stakes, and not everyone will be in your position, but the OP suggestion seems more like a path to polyamory rather than a business idea.

[MrMattBig]

Hi @MrMattBig that's a level of detail I haven't seen anyone else give in here, but it does demonstrate that there is limited incentive for escorts to enter into exclusive arrangements be they 'sugar daddy' or a collective such as the OP suggested. I can't say I'm surprised at where you are in the financial stakes, and not everyone will be in your position, but the OP suggestion seems more like a path to polyamory rather than a business idea.

What can I say, I am brutally honest at times. I won't disclose a true average however, but on the low end when it seems the universe is against me a monthly income would be around $2000, not much different from an entry level job. The incentive would be stability and a guaranteed amount in mine, and most cases really. It would be amazing to be guaranteed even a stable $3,000/month really, but I would be giving up over triple that in potential. Personally I would be extremely hard pressed to do something like that unless there was other types of benefits accompanied that would aid in a long term benefit.

 

And on the polyamory point as it would relate to the OP's suggestion of a co-op, all parties involved would have to be on a similar wavelength to a poly group, otherwise it could get real messy real fast, especially with money involved.

[Epigonos]

I have major reservations regarding this type of arrangement especially as regarding the long term benefits for the escort. It might work for the short term but as time goes by clients are going to get tired/bored with the arrangement and withdraw. Just where does that leave the escort? Eventually he will have to start all over again developing a group of regulars during which time his income would likely drop dramatically. I really don't see much of an advantage here for the escort.

[MidwestCoastal]

I didn't mean to imply this arrangement would be for every client or every provider. Obviously everyone has different ambitions and needs. I simply meant it as a point of discussion.

 

In the past, I have had providers with 'day jobs' and looking to supplement their income. I also think a provider with BF when the BF knows what the provider does for income is another likely candidate. This type of arrangement may be best for these types of providers.

 

I would also say not everyone gets 'bored'; 80% of my time with providers has been with the same person for the last two years, with an 8 month stretch where they were the 'only' provider.

 

I think to summarily dismiss the idea based on broad generalizations misses the potential benefits for those interested in the arrangement.

[MrMattBig]

I didn't mean to imply this arrangement would be for every client or every provider. Obviously everyone has different ambitions and needs. I simply meant it as a point of discussion.

 

In the past, I have had providers with 'day jobs' and looking to supplement their income. I also think a provider with BF when the BF knows what the provider does for income is another likely candidate. This type of arrangement may be best for these types of providers.

 

I would also say not everyone gets 'bored'; 80% of my time with providers has been with the same person for the last two years, with an 8 month stretch where they were the 'only' provider.

 

I think to summarily dismiss the idea based on broad generalizations misses the potential benefits for those interested in the arrangement.

Its definitely a great idea to consider, would just be the right thing for only a select few or select circumstances. Personally, I would currently be open to a weekend or week per month with this type of co-op arrangement. I don't desire to be "taken off the market" by any means. But to be hired by a group for an agreed upon amount for several days each month.....so many bodies and body parts mmm:p:eek:

[GTMike]

I could see a scenario where a tweak of the original concept is something more along the lines of the following. As an example.

 

Say there is a "Escort A", who primarily lives in Boston, Tampa, Atlanta or Philly and feels that it is difficult to reliably schedule extended trips to Seattle, SF or Los Angeles.

 

But if in those west coast cities there were 4 or 5 clients that had history with "A" and they all knew that then its possible that the escort could reliably book a trip to the city knowing that at least 3 or so of the regular clients have committed to meet during that time period which protects the downside of travel.

 

In my experience that is what the escort is essentially doing anyways, by having an anchoring client in a city and booking around that. But of course due to privacy issues and professionalism the other clients wouldn't/shouldn't know formally about each other.

 

This way its pretty much the same thing but a little more coordinated with a little more openess with like minded clients. I'm NOT advocating for this specifically and just thinking of a plausible workable scenario.

[DallasClient]

Sounds like something a guy in college would find most beneficial, steady income, no traveling, not a lot of hours, etc..

[BaronArtz]

I am not aware of any formal co-ops of this genre, but DE FACTO this already exists for some escorts I know. The guys at some point had ads up, but not anymore. They are working with a handful of regulars with whom they are comfortable. The regulars keep the escort in a certain life style he is accustomed to.

 

The issue with formal arrangements is that these are not enforceable, because of the nature of the business it is. There are also practical issues. What if 5 guys in the co-op want a Friday evening appointment? I see nothing but problems.

[sexymonk]

I have major reservations regarding this type of arrangement especially as regarding the long term benefits for the escort. It might work for the short term but as time goes by clients are going to get tired/bored with the arrangement and withdraw. Just where does that leave the escort? Eventually he will have to start all over again developing a group of regulars during which time his income would likely drop dramatically. I really don't see much of an advantage here for the escort.

I agree with this statements made by you! At the end it is business transaction. Also, what if escort or client get disinterested. Where each is leaving the other in what situation? I would say be bf just the day you are meeting. Have humbleness in heart, treat each other well and have nsa fun or rapport! With arrangements things can turn up ugly quickly and that is not good thing!

[MidwestCoastal]

I'm somewhat puzzled by the 'what if escort or client get disinterested'.... that can happen now in a relationship whether its personal or business.... it's called life. My current regular knows, if I eventually end up in a relationship of my own, it may mean the end of ours. We're adults. We're cool with that. I would hope know one goes in blind to any relationship whether its for a night, a weekend, or a month.

 

I think I could make this work. If you can't, to each his own!

[+ tassojunior]

For someone new who would never advertise it would work very well.

[marylander1940]

Earlier this year, my weekend 'regular' told me he had a BF that was a former client. In these modern times, I find myself wondering, why can't a group of clients get together and share one guy? My regular and I don't click on the BF level, more like FwB, but the sex is some of the best of my life. I'm not wealthy by all means, but beyond income, I have definitive perks to my job.... discounts on technology, travel, etc.... that I could share with a group. I can see this working for a provider that wants to build a career in a field or do something they are passionate about without worrying about income/lifestyle.

 

Has this ever been pondered or discussed?

 

It’s already happening! We hire guys who are also hired by other guys. You're one of his regulars.

 

Providers - Would you ever trade 'open' for 'closed with steady income/support'?

 

For the right amount who wouldn't but as we all know sugar daddy relationships sooner or later have an end. I just hope the kept men know it won't last forever and a name could be easily removed from a will. Save the money!

 

Have you watch the movie about Liberace?

 

For someone new who would never advertise it would work very well.

 

I'm sure some instagram models and influencers would love it, specially if they never see themselves putting an ad and escorting. Melania could give them advice about it, she made it wife too!

Edited October 4, 2019 by marylander1940

[Milo Farnsworth]

All sounds interesting, but I don't like to share.

[Epigonos]

Milo Farnsworth if you don’t like sharing I sincerely hope you are in a monogamous relationship and NOT hiring escorts.