Whatever happened to Stephen Draker?

[+ Gar1eth]

Speaking of Michael Vincenzo, whatever happened to him? He was a pretty terrific guy I thought.

G

 

Great guy. Loved my sessions with MV. He moved to Seattle and shortly thereafter left the biz.

Didn't he retire to Seattle-or am I thinking of someone else. There was a dark haired guy - a multi-cummer who the last ads for were in Seattle about three or four years ago.

 

Gman

@MikeThomas, I wasn't trying to repeat your info. When I was writing my response above, yours didn't show up until after I had posted it.

 

I had wanted to meet him. But he had given up bottoming by the time he moved to Seattle.

 

Gman

No problem. Thanks for confirming my recollection re: Seattle. MV was a favorite. Always hired him when came through town.

 

Michael once shared the most incredible video here on the Message Center showing him cumming multiple times in a short period. I don't remember how many times exactly. But I'm thinking it was over 4. The video made quite an impression on me.

 

Gman

[rvwnsd]

Didn't he retire to Seattle-or am I thinking of someone else. There was a dark haired guy - a multi-cummer who the last ads for were in Seattle about three or four years ago.

 

Gman

 

@Gar1eth, see the post below

G

 

Great guy. Loved my sessions with MV. He moved to Seattle and shortly thereafter left the biz.

 

@MikeThomas has it right. Moved first, retired maybe a year after.

 

I had a couple of great sessions with him. Really great guy.

[LookingAround]

Hijack.

[robberbaron4u]

A baron, not a prince, is his "domestic partner", assuming that Mr. Draker is now approaching 50 years of age, there is a 40 year point spread in their ages; the gentleman is possessed of a tidy fortune from his endeavours in commerce, and, Mr. Draker, of course, is a work of art, a MasterPiece, with some patina; the title descends from the nobility created by Napoleon in 1808, and, the noblesse d'epee and noblesse de robe of the Ancien Regime regard the title with derision.

[+ Gar1eth]

A baron, not a prince, is his "domestic partner", assuming that Mr. Draker is now approaching 50 years of age, there is a 40 year point spread in their ages; the gentleman is possessed of a tidy fortune from his endeavours in commerce, and, Mr. Draker, of course, is a work of art, a MasterPiece, with some patina; the title descends from the nobility created by Napoleon in 1808, and, the noblesse d'epee and noblesse de robe of the Ancien Regime regard the title with derision.

 

But the ?-ing question is whether the Baron made an honest man of Steven and actually married him.

 

Gman

[BaronArtz]

Mr. Draker, of course, is a work of art, a MasterPiece, with some patina;.

 

I do not disagree, but he is also a man of easy virtue with a checkered past … I can only imagine how Brussels Society reacted to the news of the matrimony.

Edited September 7, 2019 by BaronArtz

[LookingAround]

A baron, not a prince, is his "domestic partner", assuming that Mr. Draker is now approaching 50 years of age, there is a 40 year point spread in their ages; the gentleman is possessed of a tidy fortune from his endeavours in commerce, and, Mr. Draker, of course, is a work of art, a MasterPiece, with some patina; the title descends from the nobility created by Napoleon in 1808, and, the noblesse d'epee and noblesse de robe of the Ancien Regime regard the title with derision.

So the sugar grandad is 90?

[MscleLovr]

A baron, not a prince, is his "domestic partner".....there is a 40 year point spread in their ages; the gentleman is possessed of a tidy fortune from his endeavours in commerce, and, Mr. Draker, of course, is....

 

Never thought I’d say it but I have to compliment SD on having the ‘street smarts’ and good sense to attach himself to a rich old man.

 

I know of only 1 other guy who did what SD has done; he attached himself to Valentino’s business partner...who in turn was highly embarrassed socially when his handsome young man’s past in BelAmi films became public knowledge.

 

Ageing sex-workers like SD rarely do well. I know of 3 male escorts who were highly acclaimed (and reviewed here) in their day. After retiring from many years of sex-work, each still maintains a very good body. Alas, each now lives a hand-to-mouth existence, earning a small salary from a dull office job.

 

The only exception to this that I’m directly aware of is a male escort who always avoided advertising publicly, took no drugs and never went clubbing. He worked busily for 5 years but saved his money rigorously and invested it in residential property. Sex-work paid for the house he lives in and for the several rental properties that now give him a decent income.

[marylander1940]

But the ?-ing question is whether the Baron made an honest man of Steven and actually married him.

 

Gman

 

Maybe Steven made an honest man of the Baron accepting his proposal and exchanging love for a material arrangement that as pointed by @jjkrkwood may not last for as long as expected but a marriage is different... Prenup!?

 

Are we more honest/decent than escorts?

 

The whole expression of making an honest man out of someone is beyond biased.

 

Never thought I’d say it but I have to compliment SD on having the ‘street smarts’ and good sense to attach himself to a rich old man.

 

I know of only 1 other guy who did what SD has done; he attached himself to Valentino’s business partner...who in turn was highly embarrassed socially when his handsome young man’s past in BelAmi films became public knowledge.

 

Let's remember that SD was smart enough not to show his face.

 

The only exception to this that I’m directly aware of is a male escort who always avoided advertising publicly, took no drugs and never went clubbing. He worked busily for 5 years but saved his money rigorously and invested it in residential property. Sex-work paid for the house he lives in and for the several rental properties that now give him a decent income.

 

I know an escort from Uruguay who did (and he's still doing) exactly the same. He told me about a friend of him who dated a Brazilian escort and said: "South Americans are good saving money". Unfortunately that younger promising escort talked his ass off about conservative values but somehow never saved any money, did drugs, got HIV and now is living with mom and dad in collecting disabilities. Conservative values must be put in practice, talking about responsibility, money and being judgmental of others is not the same as getting your shit together.

 

So many American escorts who had the chance of a lifetime to invest in real state in the 90's and early 2000's and missed it. Most guys unfortunately retire with nothing... and now a days in this buyers market saving is more difficult.

Edited September 7, 2019 by marylander1940

[John]

the title descends from the nobility created by Napoleon in 1808, and, the noblesse d'epee and noblesse de robe of the Ancien Regime regard the title with derision.

 

Well, all us plebes can be relieved that it's a low-class baron.

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

Never thought I’d say it but I have to compliment SD on having the ‘street smarts’ and good sense to attach himself to a rich old man.

 

I know of only 1 other guy who did what SD has done; he attached himself to Valentino’s business partner...who in turn was highly embarrassed socially when his handsome young man’s past in BelAmi films became public knowledge.

 

Ageing sex-workers like SD rarely do well. I know of 3 male escorts who were highly acclaimed (and reviewed here) in their day. After retiring from many years of sex-work, each still maintains a very good body. Alas, each now lives a hand-to-mouth existence, earning a small salary from a dull office job.

 

The only exception to this that I’m directly aware of is a male escort who always avoided advertising publicly, took no drugs and never went clubbing. He worked busily for 5 years but saved his money rigorously and invested it in residential property. Sex-work paid for the house he lives in and for the several rental properties that now give him a decent income.

 

 

If you invest wisely and/or have benefactors who ensure your long-term care, aging in this business isn't too terrible

 

You presented two standard options that smart working guys can take... There are a multitude of others.

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

This thread is embodies why SD was one of the greats.

 

As a wise Hooboy once told me, 'be glad that they're either going to love you or hate you. Indifference is the escort career killer.'

[jjkrkwood]

I think life is what YOU make it... If you rely on others to make it for you, you will most likely see life eventually PASSING you by.

 

Verbal financial agreements are like Trump tweets...they mean nothing. Smart guys have it on paper and notarized. then perhaps you can spend your Golden years on your gilded throne and not rely on food stamps and the kindness of strangers.

[Guest MikeThomas]

Hopefully one day I will “meet” Benjamin Nicholas so long after he retires I can say nice things about him on this board.

[+ Gar1eth]

Hopefully one day I will “meet” Benjamin Nicholas so long after he retires I can say nice things about him on this board.

 

I missed my one chance to meet Ben about 7 years ago when I accidentally gave him the wrong date for my trip to San Antonio. I had emailed him a few weeks before to see if he was going to be in town. He said yes. Since I was visiting family, I couldn't schedule beforehand. But I email to find out his availability. He tells me he's out of town and that I had said I was coming in the following week. I looked back at the correspondence. He was entirely right. I've always regretted that.

 

Gman

[marylander1940]

I missed my one chance to meet Ben about 7 years ago when I accidentally gave him the wrong date for my trip to San Antonio. I had emailed him a few weeks before to see if he was going to be in town. He said yes. Since I was visiting family, I couldn't schedule beforehand. But I email to find out his availability. He tells me he's out of town and that I had said I was coming in the following week. I looked back at the correspondence. He was entirely right. I've always regretted that.

 

Gman

 

I thought the two of you now live in Texas. Make it happen!

[marylander1940]

I think life is what YOU make it... If you rely on others to make it for you, you will most likely see life eventually PASSING you by.

 

Verbal financial agreements are like Trump tweets...they mean nothing. Smart guys have it on paper and notarized. then perhaps you can spend your Golden years on your gilded throne and not rely on food stamps and the kindness of strangers.

 

It’s not so much about relying on others but about saving money for the future.

 

Gilded homes are hard to keep and soon become a liability and not so much of an asset. We all should live within our means! Escorts who make 10 or 15k a month should always keep in mind it won’t last forever and put outside as much as possible

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

I missed my one chance to meet Ben about 7 years ago when I accidentally gave him the wrong date for my trip to San Antonio. I had emailed him a few weeks before to see if he was going to be in town. He said yes. Since I was visiting family, I couldn't schedule beforehand. But I email to find out his availability. He tells me he's out of town and that I had said I was coming in the following week. I looked back at the correspondence. He was entirely right. I've always regretted that.

 

Gman

 

YA DODGED A BULLET!

[+ WilliamM]

It’s not so much about relying on others but about saving money for the future.

 

Gilded homes are hard to keep and soon become a liability and not so much of an asset. We all should live within our means! Escorts who make 10 or 15k a month should always keep in mind it won’t last forever and put outside as much as possible

 

If one or both of your parents die at a young age, I would completely understand living in the present. F**k saving for the future.

[+ Gar1eth]

Hopefully one day I will “meet” Benjamin Nicholas so long after he retires I can say nice things about him on this board.

I missed my one chance to meet Ben about 7 years ago when I accidentally gave him the wrong date for my trip to San Antonio. I had emailed him a few weeks before to see if he was going to be in town. He said yes. Since I was visiting family, I couldn't schedule beforehand. But I email to find out his availability. He tells me he's out of town and that I had said I was coming in the following week. I looked back at the correspondence. He was entirely right. I've always regretted that.

 

Gman

I thought the two of you now live in Texas. Make it happen!

 

I was vaguely considering saving up some money to maybe hire. But #1 I don't think @Benjamin_Nicholas does incalls , and even if he did, it's all moot now as # 2 my alternator went out suddenly on my 2001 Toyota yesterday * I replaced the alternator, battery, and the serpentine belt for about $680.#3 Plus there's a good chance I need a new catalytic converter and O2 sensor which will cost me about $1600 to $1700. I'd prefer to get a new-er car as Car Max will only give me about $1200 for mine. Unfortunately I wouldn't be able to afford the monthly payments. So I have to keep the one I have.

 

Gman

 

*I was on my way to lunch. Red battery light came on suddenly. I pulled over to the side of the road with the engine running to see what it meant. Found out it was most likely the alternator. Drove a mile or so-more dashboard lights came on. Pulled into the parking lot of a furniture store to look up what those lights meant. Turned the engine off. It was totally dead when I tried to restart it. Called my brother to see if he could give me a jump. He wasn't happy but said yes. I went into the furniture store to apologize for being stopped in their parking lot. I explained my predicament. The store (Texas Leather Furniture & Accessories in Frisco, Tx in case anyone is interested) had no customers. And the salesman offered to jump my car. I called my brother back to cancel. The salesman jumped my car. Eureka!! It worked. I cautiously get on the freeway as I'm about 16 miles from home and want to get somewhere closer to get my car fixed. I make it about 8 miles. But the engine starts surging and the brake pedal becomes hard to push. By chance I am driving by a Kwik Kar Lube (auto lube of course-get your minds out of the gutter) and Tune. I get there around 4:40 pm. They diagnose it and are able to fix it by their closing time of 6:30 pm.

[jjkrkwood]

I was vaguely considering saving up some money to maybe hire. But #1 I don't think @Benjamin_Nicholas does incalls , and even if he did, it's all moot now as # 2 my alternator went out suddenly on my 2001 Toyota yesterday * I replaced the alternator, battery, and the serpentine belt for about $680.#3 Plus there's a good chance I need a new catalytic converter and O2 sensor which will cost me about $1600 to $1700. I'd prefer to get a new-er car as Car Max will only give me about $1200 for mine. Unfortunately I wouldn't be able to afford the monthly payments. So I have to keep the one I have.

 

Gman

 

*I was on my way to lunch. Red battery light came on suddenly. I pulled over to the side of the road with the engine running to see what it meant. Found out it was most likely the alternator. Drove a mile or so-more dashboard lights came on. Pulled into the parking lot of a furniture store to look up what those lights meant. Turned the engine off. It was totally dead when I tried to restart it. Called my brother to see if he could give me a jump. He wasn't happy but said yes. I went into the furniture store to apologize for being stopped in their parking lot. I explained my predicament. The store (Texas Leather Furniture & Accessories in Frisco, Tx in case anyone is interested) had no customers. And the salesman offered to jump my car. I called my brother back to cancel. The salesman jumped my car. Eureka!! It worked. I cautiously get on the freeway as I'm about 16 miles from home and want to get somewhere closer to get my car fixed. I make it about 8 miles. But the engine starts surging and the brake pedal becomes hard to push. By chance I am driving by a Kwik Kar Lube (auto lube of course-get your minds out of the gutter) and Tune. I get there around 4:40 pm. They diagnose it and are able to fix it by their closing time of 6:30 pm.

 

So are we to assume the tech gave you a quickie "Lube job" ?

 

JJ's note: perhaps if you offered some delicious and decadent snacks, @Benjamin_Nicholas would pay you a visit. ? He IS a man of discerning taste and impeccable palate.

Edited September 8, 2019 by jjkrkwood

[mike carey]

YA DODGED A BULLET!

Noted!

[robberbaron4u]

Maybe Steven made an honest man of the Baron accepting his proposal and exchanging love for a material arrangement that as pointed by @jjkrkwood may not last for as long as expected.

 

Are we more honest/decent than escorts?

 

The whole expression of making an honest man out of someone is beyond biased.

 

 

 

Let's remember that SD was smart enough not to show his face.

 

 

 

I was vaguely considering saving up some money to maybe hire. But #1 I don't think @Benjamin_Nicholas does incalls , and even if he did, it's all moot now as # 2 my alternator went out suddenly on my 2001 Toyota yesterday * I replaced the alternator, battery, and the serpentine belt for about $680.#3 Plus there's a good chance I need a new catalytic converter and O2 sensor which will cost me about $1600 to $1700. I'd prefer to get a new-er car as Car Max will only give me about $1200 for mine. Unfortunately I wouldn't be able to afford the monthly payments. So I have to keep the one I have.

 

Gman

 

*I was on my way to lunch. Red battery light came on suddenly. I pulled over to the side of the road with the engine running to see what it meant. Found out it was most likely the alternator. Drove a mile or so-more dashboard lights came on. Pulled into the parking lot of a furniture store to look up what those lights meant. Turned the engine off. It was totally dead when I tried to restart it. Called my brother to see if he could give me a jump. He wasn't happy but said yes. I went into the furniture store to apologize for being stopped in their parking lot. I explained my predicament. The store (Texas Leather Furniture & Accessories in Frisco, Tx in case anyone is interested) had no customers. And the salesman offered to jump my car. I called my brother back to cancel. The salesman jumped my car. Eureka!! It worked. I cautiously get on the freeway as I'm about 16 miles from home and want to get somewhere closer to get my car fixed. I make it about 8 miles. But the engine starts surging and the brake pedal becomes hard to push. By chance I am driving by a Kwik Kar Lube (auto lube of course-get your minds out of the gutter) and Tune. I get there around 4:40 pm. They diagnose it and are able to fix it by their closing time of 6:30 pm.

!!!SWEET POTATO PIE AND HUSH MY MOUTH!!! !!!GRAB A TRAIN, HOP A BUS, FLY A PLANE!!! Benjamin Nichols is possessed of physical beauty, personal charm and sexual prowess, Merely to contemplate him in the perfection of his form affords delight! Yes, Mr. Nichols is THE STAR in the firmament of the Heaven that, for discerning men of fine taste, is Escorting. Cross his palm with gold, and, he will provide you a memorable experience betweenst the sheets not to be forgotten; present him in public and you will be the envy of every man and woman you encounter in your excursion.

[jjkrkwood]

!!!SWEET POTATO PIE AND HUSH MY MOUTH!!! !!!GRAB A TRAIN, HOP A BUS, FLY A PLANE!!! Benjamin Nichols is possessed of physical beauty, personal charm and sexual prowess, Merely to contemplate him in the perfection of his form affords delight! Yes, Mr. Nichols is THE STAR in the firmament of the Heaven that, for discerning men of fine taste, is Escorting. Cross his palm with gold, and, he will provide you a memorable experience betweenst the sheets not to be forgotten; present him in public and you will be the envy of every man and woman you encounter in your excursion.

 

@robberbaron4u , is Benjamin Nichols one of your coutesans ? because we were speaking of @Benjamin_Nicholas , the delicious and educated gentleman that posts HERE....

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

perhaps if you offered some delicious and decadent snacks, @Benjamin_Nicholas would pay you a visit.

 

Based on the car issues here, I'd like to add to the resume that I am able to change car oil AND give ample lube jobs.

 

I was vaguely considering saving up some money to maybe hire. But #1 I don't think @Benjamin_Nicholas does incalls , and even if he did, it's all moot now as # 2 my alternator went out suddenly on my 2001 Toyota yesterday * I replaced the alternator, battery, and the serpentine belt for about $680.#3 Plus there's a good chance I need a new catalytic converter and O2 sensor which will cost me about $1600 to $1700. I'd prefer to get a new-er car as Car Max will only give me about $1200 for mine. Unfortunately I wouldn't be able to afford the monthly payments. So I have to keep the one I have.

 

Transportation is mas importante sir. Car first and foremost... Then boys