Is a4a for masseurs or escorts?

[MrMattBig]

I currently advertise on a4a with a "pro" ad but considering pulling it. So many clients on there are either expecting or looking for massages with extras and expecting to pay those rates. I labeled myself as a "freelancer" and not "masseur" like most other pros do on there, but still 90% of inquires are looking for massages. Question to both clients and other escorts: What types of connections do you look for and get from a4a, particularly when using or contacting a "pro" ad?

Edited August 19, 2019 by MrMattBig

[jjkrkwood]

I've never gotten any connection off A4A, and have been on there for many, many years.... but I suspect the people that use it are looking for FREE sex, and very few use it as a resource for Hiring.... I don't have Grindr or any of those other sex apps, so cant speak to how A4A cracks up against them....

[+ EVdude]

Given that A4A is generally a hookup site, it’s not surprising that you’re getting queries looking extras plus. I’d presume that MasseurFinder and its even more puritanical sister site MassageFinder are likely to deliver the more serious massage inquiries.

[MrMattBig]

Given that A4A is generally a hookup site, it’s not surprising that you’re getting queries looking extras plus. I’d presume that MasseurFinder and its even more puritanical sister site MassageFinder are likely to deliver the more serious massage inquiries.

Realized I wasn't completely clear as I was semi-venting. Lol.

I advertise on Rentmen primarily, and have a "pro" ad on a4a. I'm not looking for massage appointments, but to use a4a as a secondary platform to advertise escort services.

[+ EVdude]

Realized I wasn't completely clear as I was semi-venting. Lol.

I advertise on Rentmen primarily, and have a "pro" ad on a4a. I'm not looking for massage appointments, but to use a4a as a secondary platform to advertise escort services.

I certainly missed the boat on that one! Thanks for clarifying. As an avid massage seeker, I do use A4A for pro candidates. Indeed when in the mood for a little something something beyond massage, it’s a good starting spot in conjunction with RentMasseur. And admittedly, I’m bottom feeding price-wise.

Edited August 19, 2019 by EVdude

[MrMattBig]

I certainly miss the boat on that one! Thanks for clarifying. As an avid massage seeker, I do use A4A for pro candidates. Indeed when in the mood for a little something something beyond massage, it’s a good starting spot in conjunction with RentMasseur. And admittedly, I’m bottom feeding price-wise.

No shame, different strokes and all that.

Just with having broken every finger at least once and spraining both wrists in the past, any longer than a 20 or so minute massage and everything is on fire! (I do have excellent touch during those 20 minutes though!) Which is one of the reasons why I don't advertise on massage sites. So if a4a is mostly massage based clientele, I may have to abandon that platform.

[rvwnsd]

In my experience, A4A is a platform for "massage", "massage, wink-wink" , and a few guys who just do massage. Interestingly, more than a few guys I've contacted whose ads show almost everything there is to show have become highly indignant when asked whether they perform erotic massage.

 

If you do not perform massage at all, then I'm not sure it is the right platform for you.

[+ José Soplanucas]

Adam is mostly a hook up for free platform, which a little bit of pro offers. The pros are less and less since they changed the language and eliminated the option to report yourself as an escort.

I use A4A a lot for hook ups, and have use dit for pros in the past intensely. Currently, my hirings from them are less and less.

 

My hypothesis would be that as the platform is mostly a hook up app, many guys are not well informed, and are just marginal clients. They may not know the history behind the "masseurs" category in the pros ads.

[+ Keith30309]

I have reached out to several Pro guys on A4A and actually hired 4 and all are escorts though they advertise massage services; I see 2 regularly when I’m in their city. My first visit with each started off with a massage. I give each $300 for 2-3 hours of their time.

 

I look at the A4A Pro profiles pretty skeptically - I perceive there’s a fairly high flake factor there.

 

Interestingly one of my favorite guys is an Asian twink who I stumbled across with an A4A hook-up profile and he mentioned that he likes giving massages; $140 for 2 hours of escort time.

Edited August 19, 2019 by Keith30309

[+ Balthazar]

I've hired A4A "Pros" for massages. While I feel more comfortable if they also advertise on another site (e.g., rentmasseur), it's not necessary. Despite being labeled as massage, some of these providers are clearly advertising escort services.

[+ sniper]

I've had pros reach out to me on A4A when I was traveling, but the ones that did sounded like there was possibly a slight risk of me being robbed and murdered, so I declined...

[MikeBiDude]

I’ve had varied luck hiring from A4A. Currently in my area there just isn’t a lot on there that interest me. In the past, I have found 2-3 who became regular meets. One took my advice, got off A4A and into RM...and has been hired and reviewed here.

[+ FrankR]

I’ve found A4A to be quite useful. Have mainly hired for massage, but it was pretty clear from communications with the providers that many of them also offered a more...eh comprehensive service, shall we say? ? I like the fact that private/more revealing pics can be made available, as compared to the strict rules that masseurfinder enforce nowadays.

 

That is a very long winded way of saying: it is for both, but more discreet than rentmen if you are looking to escort.

 

As a side note, a recent phone number search took me to https://jock2go.eu/ and I was surprised by how much local talent was on there. Some profiles did appear to be stale, but quite a few new faces. ?

Edited August 19, 2019 by FrankR

[rogerG]

It seems to me A4A is a hook-up site for guys who don't use Grindr or other smartphone apps. Some horny, cruisy guys on A4A will hire, but not many, and not likely at premium prices. From what I can see, the site has never attracted moneyed customers. I've been there for years, too. Escorts who do massage can pick up extra work there, but they're the type of guy who is willing to service a customer who has a limited income and may not be looking for full blown escort service. Sometimes I just want to lie naked with a guy and dock or be very oral.

 

Since you don't want to endure pain, you don't want to align yourself with any type of massage service, especially one that is limited to 20 minutes. If I were you, I would keep the word massage absent from all ads. There are other, more seductive ways to promote your special touch.

 

If A4A Pro is free, then no harm having an ad there. IMO, free exposure is free advertising. 1 new customer from free advertising is better than 0.

[dfwmassagelover]

In Dallas when you ready the pro ads at least 80% don't mention massage at all. I think for sure most are escorts. The ones that do massage usually make it very plan in their description

[MrMattBig]

"Wow you are totally HOT - do you ever safely top Dads or just massages"

 

"Hi. Looking for mutual nude and mutual touch massage w release. Love to have my ass fingered during release. Love to kiss and suck if you’re up for it. If this is cool, do you host? Rate? Any other pix?"

 

These are two examples of responses I have gotten on a4a. Clearly expecting/wanting massage+extras rather than escorting with a massage experience. @rogerG I can manage through the discomfort of a longer massage, but it can become distracting and may limit how much of a massage I can give to the next client. And I don't mind accommodating limited incomes, as long as it's reasonable and the client is ok with a possible shorter session in which everything wanted still occurs. It's $30 for a pro ad on a4a, it's not breaking the bank but it could go to jock2go or platinum boosts on Rentmen instead.

[MrMattBig]

Then I get sentimental too.

When I first created my ad on a4a, I reconnected rather by chance and accident with someone who had hired me and my late gf together as a couple years back. When I met him recently, he had just gone through a loss too and other struggles, and the time we spent together talking and playing become very therapeutic and healing for both of us.

So I am feeling less and less that a4a is a viable platform for me, but it's hard to let go after giving someone such a memorable uplifting experience.

[+ José Soplanucas]

It seems to me A4A is a hook-up site for guys who don't use Grindr or other smartphone apps.

 

Well, Adam has an app for your smartphone, and it works quite well. A few months ago I was in The Green Lantern, boooored, and ended hoking up with a guy staying in an hotel nearby, thanks to A4A app.

 

Grindr and Adam, both are a mix of hook up app and social network. You know, those guys actually looking for friendship and/or love. I think Adam comparatively clicks more on the hooking up side.

[+ FrankR]

"Wow you are totally HOT - do you ever safely top Dads or just massages"

 

"Hi. Looking for mutual nude and mutual touch massage w release. Love to have my ass fingered during release. Love to kiss and suck if you’re up for it. If this is cool, do you host? Rate? Any other pix?"

 

These are two examples of responses I have gotten on a4a. Clearly expecting/wanting massage+extras rather than escorting.

I read the first example you provided differently - to me that sounds like a guy asking if you escort; looking for a top. I could be wrong. ?

[MrMattBig]

I read the first example you provided differently - to me that sounds like a guy asking if you escort; looking for a top. I could be wrong. ?

It is...but pivoting from an assumed viewpoint that pros on a4a are primarily or overwhelmingly available for massages only. And from experience those viewpoints are typically not willing to pay escort rates or compromise on an adjusted time for the amount they would pay.