Communication & Respect on both sides

[BrianStrowkes]

Hey Everyone, hope 2019 is kicking A#% in a good way for you! Brian here again, I wanted to come make a quick post discussing contacting and making appointments based off a experience I had tonight. The emphasis being is both sides being respectful and understanding. On either side if something comes up try not to over react and do something like block them or berate.. be understanding that sickness and stuff comes up on both ends and ultimately some people will just flake that’s understandable too. My example is that we were all see to go for 8pm. When i went to my car the battery was dead.. informed client of situation instantly. Was told to reply when fixed... cannot start, call jumpbox friend and doze off while waiting for arrival(1 hr) go outside amd try to jump to realize it’s starter. At this point I try to go back and update the client only to find a full tongue lashing threatening a “bad review” in my inbox and that I have been blocked and cannot reply... My point here is whether you are a escort being canceled on or the client just try to be understanding and give it some time before making a strong reaction. We are all human.

[+ VictorPowers]

I agree with the being understanding on both sides. Cancellations do happen for us, maybe not as often but tis’ the truth. May I ask why you didn’t consider an Uber/Lyft so you’d at least still be able to meet said client?

[instudiocity]

A hot man like you calls me saying he's got car trouble, my first response would be, "Let me get my pants on and I'll come pick you up!" And then, "Can I order you a Lyft/Uber? - I'll pay both ways!" And then, "Get a Cab, I'll meet you at the curb with the cash to pay for it."

 

Honestly, I'd go pick BrianStrowkes up on the off chance that our meeting time would not begin during the transportation time and I'd get more time with him. After all why give the another driver a boner?

 

Hey BrianStrowkes, do like VictorPowers does in his post's signature, give us a link! (https://rentmen.eu/VictorPowers/)

[+ VictorPowers]

A hot man like you calls me saying he's got car trouble, my first response would be, "Let me get my pants on and I'll come pick you up!" And then, "Can I order you a Lyft/Uber? - I'll pay both ways!" And then, "Get a Cab, I'll meet you at the curb with the cash to pay for it."

 

Honestly, I'd go pick BrianStrowkes up on the off chance that our meeting time would not begin during the transportation time and I'd get more time with him. After all why give the another driver a boner?

 

Hey BrianStrowkes, do like VictorPowers does in his post's signature, give us a link! (https://rentmen.eu/VictorPowers/)

Yes solid advice. Adding your site link in your signature here is a great idea.

[hypothetically]

Hey Everyone, hope 2019 is kicking A#% in a good way for you! Brian here again, I wanted to come make a quick post discussing contacting and making appointments based off a experience I had tonight. The emphasis being is both sides being respectful and understanding. On either side if something comes up try not to over react and do something like block them or berate.. be understanding that sickness and stuff comes up on both ends and ultimately some people will just flake that’s understandable too. My example is that we were all see to go for 8pm. When i went to my car the battery was dead.. informed client of situation instantly. Was told to reply when fixed... cannot start, call jumpbox friend and doze off while waiting for arrival(1 hr) go outside amd try to jump to realize it’s starter. At this point I try to go back and update the client only to find a full tongue lashing threatening a “bad review” in my inbox and that I have been blocked and cannot reply... My point here is whether you are a escort being canceled on or the client just try to be understanding and give it some time before making a strong reaction. We are all human.

 

Cute, but it’s just something you learn to deal with. Respect and communication on both sides (and consistently) in this business is getting increasingly worse, leading to people getting frustrated very easily. My advice to you is to take these childlike tantrums with a grain of salt; in that moment the client (or escort) revealed himself and you dodged a bullet

[+ 5280Dane]

Agree, I had a situation where as a client I had an appointment set up for the next day. That same night I got word my Aunt had passed away and I immediately went into planning travel mode to attend the funeral. I had almost forgotten about the appointment until I was in the airport. The appointment was still a good 6 hours away and I texted with what happened. I soon got a call where this douche bag was yelling at me and that I needed to provide him a photo of the death certificate or some proof. I apologized for canceling but told him I don’t owe you shit, fucking nut job. Dude has some serious issues. I realize people cancel and flake and play games, but that’s no excuse for being an ass. I would have sent him a pic of my ticket if he had not been so demanding.

[BrianStrowkes]

Hey guys, it’s good to hear that you share some of the same thoughts that I had. It’s always nice to hear outside opinions. The best point is that they truly revealed theirselves which is totally how I look at it. This situation was particularly odd as the guy fake apologized a day later and rebooked I gave him a second chance only to show up and message him for him to say “how’s being stood up feel” pretty much. The next day he tried to change his user name and message me as a new person... In short!!! Please don’t be this guy lol but also.... Alot of y’all make a great point about changes to my profile up here, I will be working on becoming more active and making it so it helps make me more accessible and help establish easier communication in the future! I hope to meet you all some day

[MiamiLooker]

Hey Everyone, hope 2019 is kicking A#% in a good way for you! Brian here again, I wanted to come make a quick post discussing contacting and making appointments based off a experience I had tonight. The emphasis being is both sides being respectful and understanding. On either side if something comes up try not to over react and do something like block them or berate.. be understanding that sickness and stuff comes up on both ends and ultimately some people will just flake that’s understandable too. My example is that we were all see to go for 8pm. When i went to my car the battery was dead.. informed client of situation instantly. Was told to reply when fixed... cannot start, call jumpbox friend and doze off while waiting for arrival(1 hr) go outside amd try to jump to realize it’s starter. At this point I try to go back and update the client only to find a full tongue lashing threatening a “bad review” in my inbox and that I have been blocked and cannot reply... My point here is whether you are a escort being canceled on or the client just try to be understanding and give it some time before making a strong reaction. We are all human.

The guy got pissed and acted like a jerk. Even though he told you to let him know when your battery problem was fixed, maybe a couple of updates from you while you were waiting on your friend would have helped the situation. An hour (or, over an hour) seems like a long time to wait if the client believed you only needed a jump start.

[Geriatric Otter]

Civility seems to be a big topics these days. I agree that a taxi or Uber might have been a good idea. As a client, I get pretty excited about seeing guys (even after 18 tears) and disappointed when it doesn't work out. A few years ago in DC, I was scheduled to see a once frequent poster here, who tended to write LONG, DETAILED posts bewailing the state of escorting. I was staying about two blocks from a Metro stop. An hour late, then a call stating that he couldn't find the hotel and it was pouring out. Really? It was fine where I was. Two hours late, gave up and ordered room service and texted him not to bother coming. Which resulted in a downpour of emails berating me, calls to my room, and guaranteeing that I could never hire in DC again. Well, I have, and they he was obviously not on my short list.

[asian sensatin]

I would happily get an uber for BrianStrowkes to come to me :) no need to worry about it.

[marylander1940]

Hey Everyone, hope 2019 is kicking A#% in a good way for you! Brian here again, I wanted to come make a quick post discussing contacting and making appointments based off a experience I had tonight. The emphasis being is both sides being respectful and understanding. On either side if something comes up try not to over react and do something like block them or berate.. be understanding that sickness and stuff comes up on both ends and ultimately some people will just flake that’s understandable too. My example is that we were all see to go for 8pm. When i went to my car the battery was dead.. informed client of situation instantly. Was told to reply when fixed... cannot start, call jumpbox friend and doze off while waiting for arrival(1 hr) go outside amd try to jump to realize it’s starter. At this point I try to go back and update the client only to find a full tongue lashing threatening a “bad review” in my inbox and that I have been blocked and cannot reply... My point here is whether you are a escort being canceled on or the client just try to be understanding and give it some time before making a strong reaction. We are all human.

 

The guy possibly was an impatient drama queen and possibly would have texted you constantly about precise arriving time (ETA), etc. Considering he was the client and you the escort he should have offered to reschedule, pick you up, send Uber, etc.

 

Unfortunately last minute excuses like this (real like in your case or imaginary) happen both sides. I've been told by escorts about guys being called back to work 5 mins. after making an appointment, car accidents, etc.

 

@BrianStrowkes if you know his profile name and chatted with him go to your trash inbox and block him, also save all the texting you exchanged in case he posts a negative review, I'm sure RM will delete it. We've heard before on here "don't worry about a problem till it happens". I think it's the opposite, worry and be prepared, have a plan.

[+ WilliamM]

When someone is late, for any reason, including "I'm lost near your city," I get updates (a few more calls).

 

If he is nearby and still confused, I'll walk at least a mile to meet him. Far better than Uber because he gets to know the neighborhood a little.

Some providers stay near the airport. I will meet someone who is flying in, but not if he is staying at an airport hotel for flier miles.

[BrianStrowkes]

Hey y'all random update to this particular case I mentioned has turned into a full blown psycho sociopath. Making fake numbers that show up as iMessages, making fake appointments just to berate by text when you say you have arrived. Whenever I change cities he changes his username unaware I can still see our old messages on RM. He's trying to pose as two separate entities one by phone, one by text. But yet both at question always follow similar format with greetings and then calls me filthy and similar things when I arrive to the fake appointment. Quick note I know who it is but they are high up in the military nd have access to number faking technology with intricacy most civilians don't have access to. I have been able to correlate this all started when I told the actual client to no longer contact me after he got all crazy about taking me on a trip to "paradise" with him. Now saying he hopes i get what is "coming to me" from these fake numbers and his RM account with the changing names. . I have totally iced the RM account and can kinda tell when it's one of his fake texts but wow that escalated quick... so any advice on stalkers???????? Side note all he cares about is his designation of service so if i was to report him to the AF or anything similar that would probably set him after me in real life as that "honor" he has in his head is probably the only thing keeping him from trying to show up now.

Edited March 2, 2019 by BrianStrowkes

[Jimjaxon3]

Hey y'all random update to this particular case I mentioned has turned into a full blown psycho sociopath. Making fake numbers that show up as iMessages, making fake appointments just to berate by text when you say you have arrived. Whenever I change cities he changes his username unaware I can still see our old messages on RM. He's trying to pose as two separate entities one by phone, one by text. But yet both at question always follow similar format with greetings and then calls me filthy and similar things when I arrive to the fake appointment. Quick note I know who it is but they are high up in the military nd have access to number faking technology with intricacy most civilians don't have access to. I have been able to correlate this all started when I told the actual client to no longer contact me after he got all crazy about taking me on a trip to "paradise" with him. Now saying he hopes i get what is "coming to me" from these fake numbers and his RM account with the changing names. . I have totally iced the RM account and can kinda tell when it's one of his fake texts but wow that escalated quick... so any advice on stalkers???????? Side note all he cares about is his declaration of service so if i was to report him to the AF or anything similar that would probably set him after me in real life as that "honor" he has in his head is probably the only thing keeping him from trying to show up now.

Jesus that’s messed up.. I don’t know what to advise.. I wish I could tell you something to help

[+ not2rowdy]

...I know who it is but they are high up in the military nd have access to number faking technology with intricacy most civilians don't have access to....

 

If he’s using his military position to access restricted information such as “number faking technology” he would face severe discipline if that was found out. His “declaration of service” would not protect him. If he should read this he should know that I would refer him to an Article 15 Investigation if I knew his name - regardless of his rank or position. That investigation would be severely damaging to his career.

 

Don’t put up with this bullshit. Save your evidence. Each service has an Office for the Inspector General. Phone numbers can be found online. This link can give you some guidance:

 

http://www.dodhotline.dodig.mil/hotline/filing_info.html

 

Edit: Misunderstood that he might be a forum member so edited that out.

Edited March 2, 2019 by not2rowdy

[+ not2rowdy]

Maybe try something like this:

 

Send him a final warning to “cease and desist or face the consequences” and attach the link I gave you above.

[crushme99]

It is easy to sit back in my easy chair and say that I agree with not2rowdy since you, Brian, are the only one who will have to deal with blowback from this jerk. But from what you have said his behavior could escalate into something far worse. I don't know how an Article 15 investigation unfolds or how the escort circumstances of your predicament would be regarded, but don't let this potentially dangerous situation continue if at all possible. A position of rank and authority ought not be a license to abuse. Take care.

[Mocha]

Cute, but it’s just something you learn to deal with. Respect and communication on both sides (and consistently) in this business is getting increasingly worse, leading to people getting frustrated very easily. My advice to you is to take these childlike tantrums with a grain of salt; in that moment the client (or escort) revealed himself and you dodged a bullet

 

That’s true, maybe the car breakdown was the proverbial Balaam’s donkey (though I take it lightly considering I understand cars have a mind of their own). But in this case, if a client gives a “tongue lashing” because of a car breakdown, you’d have to wonder what would have happened if something else didn’t go accordingly.

[Mocha]

Hey y'all random update to this particular case I mentioned has turned into a full blown psycho sociopath. Making fake numbers that show up as iMessages, making fake appointments just to berate by text when you say you have arrived. Whenever I change cities he changes his username unaware I can still see our old messages on RM. He's trying to pose as two separate entities one by phone, one by text. But yet both at question always follow similar format with greetings and then calls me filthy and similar things when I arrive to the fake appointment. Quick note I know who it is but they are high up in the military nd have access to number faking technology with intricacy most civilians don't have access to. I have been able to correlate this all started when I told the actual client to no longer contact me after he got all crazy about taking me on a trip to "paradise" with him. Now saying he hopes i get what is "coming to me" from these fake numbers and his RM account with the changing names. . I have totally iced the RM account and can kinda tell when it's one of his fake texts but wow that escalated quick... so any advice on stalkers???????? Side note all he cares about is his designation of service so if i was to report him to the AF or anything similar that would probably set him after me in real life as that "honor" he has in his head is probably the only thing keeping him from trying to show up now.

 

Good Lord...I’d say let me deal with him, but I deal with enough of em. What address did he initially send you to? Was it his house?

 

That’s just crazy. I’d certainly be gathering information and going to the next level.

[Mocha]

Unfortunately last minute excuses like this (real like in your case or imaginary) happen both sides. I've been told by escorts about guys being called back to work 5 mins. after making an appointment, car accidents, etc

 

Well see, that’s when it comes down to what the agreement is. Again with the cancellation fees and deposits.

 

I would like to say in a perfect world people cancel for perfectly valid reasons, but that’s not always the case MOST of the time. And there’s a difference between cancelling for an emergency, and then cancelling last minute.

 

For example, the market I’m currently in, these guys cancel 99% of the time. It’s always something comes up, or they can’t get away. So I basically stopped hosting unless they pay $50 upfront because the main no shows come from those who want me to host. Hosting in this particular area involves me going 40/50 miles into town, getting a hotel, and then staying overnight.

 

I was thinking the other night, I have been pretty harsh on people flaking out and I should be more understanding. Especially in Denver, I had to drop 2 former regulars, cancel fees for 2 no show clients, and blacklisted maybe 4 or 5 if not more. Like...majority of the time it isn’t emergencies, it’s just people operating in their own selfish agenda. They think, “I don’t have to show up, someone else will.”

 

One thing I’ve found people falling short, is them saying, “we never made an appointment”. So I find I have to continually use the word “appointment” and “schedule” and “confirming”.

Edited March 2, 2019 by Mocha

[+ JEC]

I agree with the being understanding on both sides. Cancellations do happen for us, maybe not as often but tis’ the truth. May I ask why you didn’t consider an Uber/Lyft so you’d at least still be able to meet said client?

They raise such nice boys in Utah

[mike carey]

They raise such nice boys in Utah

Yes, he is, isn't he!

[+ JEC]

Yes, he is, isn't he!

@VictorPowers and @BrianStrowkes are both from Utah @mike carey

[+ JEC]

....and, @BrianStrowkes needs to visit Boston (in the spring)

[+ Pensant]

Brian is dreamy, no doubt about that!