What's Happening?????

[Epigonos]

It seems that only four or five reviews are appearing each day on this site where in the past it was many more. On the site maleescortreviews it's even less -- like one. What is happening? Are guys hiring less? Are guys just NOT writing reviews? This site has been my major source for locating outstanding escorts but the source appears to be drying up. So what is the story?????

[+ purplekow]

I was thinking the same thing myself. I wrote a review about a month ago and which was accepted but still has not appeared. Perhaps the turnover to a new system has slowed reviews through the pipeline and there are a slew of them coming soon. Also, since the new system, I do not recall there beening a single negative review. I did not go back and check so maybe one or two have slipped past.

Perhaps everyone is reviewed out or some of the reviewers lost interest during the hiatus between sites.

Still, each time I open to the home page, I find that there arent enough reviews to get me through the first cup of morning coffee.

[+ Oliver]

I have been feeling the same, so I just did some “research” – (I know, don’t I have anything else to do?). In the past nine days there have been 42 items in the “Newest Reviews", but only half (21) have been reviews. The other 21 have been updates of information or new photos. That’s only slightly over two reviews per day. Very disappointing to those of us who have used this site to further our adventures. I know it's free - I used to make contributions to HB, but there does not appear to means for that now. Without better content, I wouldn't be inclined to do so.

 

The other site is worse – lucky to find one review a day.

 

Bitch, bitch, bitch!!! :+

[+ ArVaGuy]

I have been cutting back on my hiring of new guys lately. Recently I did hire someone new and it was mediocre at best. Have been working on writing a review but my job has been crazy and so I have not been able to finish. This post prompts me to get it done by the weekend though.

 

I have begun to concentrate my hiring among guys I have seen before so there's not much for me to add to the pipeline. Maybe my luck has been bad but experiences recently have left me feeling unsatisfied for what was charged.

 

Since rates seem to be rapidly approaching $250 to $300 for some guys, and what they deliver is WAY BELOW PAR, what's the use to taking a chance for that kind of money? Solution for me has been to stick with the guys I have known who still deliver great times for reasonable rates. Consequently, no reviews to add to the site.

[JamesK840]

>Since rates seem to be rapidly approaching $250 to $300 for

>some guys, and what they deliver is WAY BELOW PAR, what's the

>use to taking a chance for that kind of money? Solution for

>me has been to stick with the guys I have known who still

>deliver great times for reasonable rates. Consequently, no

>reviews to add to the site.

 

I know it is sometimes pretty dead outside of SF/LA/NYC, but have you tried craigslist.org ? For me knowing I can have a good experience/another good experience for $300 isn't nearly as much fun at trying new things and having a good experience AND an OK experience for $120 or so each... The great thing about CL is you can post what you're looking for (be careful about being explicit on cash for sex though, law enforcement is rumored to make the occasional bust). I've even posted things I was looking to pay for and ended up having the fun with somebody for free... Don't write a book (like one of my MC replies) but be detailed and a bit erotic, you might be surprised.

 

On the thread's topic: it's kind of hard for me to write reviews of guys who're just in it short term, especially since it takes sooo long for reviews to get published. But I do write up most of my experiences in the group below...

[JT Brooklyn]

I do agree with both Oliver and Arlington for BOTH their reasons..

 

Now that almost ALL "Working Guys" have Hit the $250 an Hour Rate, The "Smarter Consumer's" are rethinking their Hiring! Most of us who have written many Reviews in the Past, now are just not hooking up with New Guys. I doubt there is a Great Back Log of Reviews....

 

Most of the Popular Guys with many Regular Clients don't need and some just don't want a Review. The Newbie's of course, it helps build a Clientele which they "will need" to be successful, IF "Working It" is their only source of Income. So apparently some Newbies are Hooking up with Newbie Clients, who in turn are asked to write a First Time Review.

 

3 or more Recent Reviews... is more than enuff for any Reference Required to pass along to a Prospective Client. IMHO of course

:P

[+ deej]

Adding to all of the above, look at the calendar. We're 65 (just bumped into a countdown clock yesterday) days away from New Years. The weeks leading into (and just after) the holidays are traditionally slower than normal because people are busy Christmas shopping, traveling to spend time with family, etc., instead of out having fun. (And reeling from sticker shock when that first credit card statement hits in January.)

 

This is, typically, a slower time of the year.

[+ Charlie]

I think this slowdown is a natural development, like the retreat of the housing market after a hot period. In the first few years of this site, clients were just discovering it, and there was a lot of excitement about this new way of dealing with an old habit. I actually felt stimulated to hire guys JUST SO I COULD WRITE ABOUT IT!

But the bloom is off the rose--it's become too familiar to be really exciting anymore. If the number of escorts advertising is any indication, there is still plenty of business going on (although a lot of them may be like houses for sale, sitting unvisited by potential buyers), but the clients aren't bothering to report their experiences. There is probably also a limited number of people like myself who care to talk about their experiences, which is why there are few real new reviewers. And as some have suggested, many reliable reviewers have been able--through this site--to find escorts whom they are happy to "settle down" with, that core group of professionals who get reviewed over and over again; if you are hiring the same guy repeatedly, you are not going to review that often.

 

My own reason for not having written a review in a long time, however, is simpler: I haven't hired anyone in almost a year.

[+ ArVaGuy]

Yes, I have tired CL to good success. As I mentioned in a post in the Deli, I have found several guys who have ads on Rentboy and M4R for rates well below their published rates. Couple of days ago I saw a CL listing for a guy in Baltimore that had an hourly rate $50 to $75 below what he advertises and what he was reivewed on another site.

[+ ArVaGuy]

>I think this slowdown is a natural development, like the

>retreat of the housing market after a hot period. In the first

>few years of this site, clients were just discovering it, and

>there was a lot of excitement about this new way of dealing

>with an old habit. I actually felt stimulated to hire guys

>JUST SO I COULD WRITE ABOUT IT!

 

Charlie, I totally agree with you here. A few years ago a review here would motivate me to hire a guy and contribute to the process. Now maybe it's age but that's no longer the case for me. If the services delivered are in any way reflected by some of the weak reviews then why bother?

 

 

>But the bloom is off the rose--it's become too familiar to be

>really exciting anymore. If the number of escorts advertising

>is any indication, there is still plenty of business going on

>(although a lot of them may be like houses for sale, sitting

>unvisited by potential buyers), but the clients aren't

>bothering to report their experiences.

 

The housing market analogy is a good one. In some cities you could go to any corner and throw a rock and hit a "real estate investor" last year. This year, same city, same corner and these guys are unloading their portfolios so fast it's funny.

 

Perhaps something similar has happend with the plethora of escort sites. We have Rentboy, Men4Rent, Next Boys, American Male Escorts, Gaydar, and one even called Gigilo Joe's and more every day it seems. And don't forget Craigslist too. A good many of these sites have the same guys under more than one name sometimes.

 

They also have a lot of new guys who look to make a quick buck. Throw up an ad at $250 plus and just wait for the responses. Easy money for them I am sure. But my luck of late with guys I have not hired before has been dismal. I'll let someone else take the chance at $250 - $350 and hope to read a decent review.

[RockHard]

"A good many of these sites have the same guys under more than one name sometimes."

And that's the stupid, idiot escort I ignore like the plague. Advertising 101: never change the name of a good product if you believe in the poduct and its worth. Some escorts are nothing more than hustlers but we already knew that.

 

The really smart way to promote new interest: use different pictures on each site. But that requires photo shoot inventory and too many of these guys are lazy and really could care less. They wouldn't call it an easy buck if it required a little work.

[+ cougar]

Every one of the preceeding responses apply to me somewhat.

 

I do not live in an area that attracts the traveling escorts too frequently, so my choices are somewhat limited. However, I have not hired outside of my "regulars" for quiet awhile now. Based on some of my previous experiences, I am not willing to take a gamble on spending $200+ and not know exactly what type or level of service I will receive. The thought of spending upwards of $1000+ to fly a new escort here for an over-night is a gamble I am not willing to take. Even good communications upfront does not guarentee a wonderful experience.

 

I also recognize that this site has had a very bumpy history this year. I am sure there are still guys out there who haven't found the new address. Likewise, I am sure there are others who have brushed this site off for whatever reason, but still valid to them, and refuse to contribute to a site that is operated by rules and people they do not agree with. You can dress it up anyway you want, but the tension I have seen around here sometimes is certainly enough to discourage participation.

 

I know that alot of work has been done to get the new site up and running and that the daily operations is a never ending task. However, I am still disappointed that the older reviews are not posted. These are reviews that you and I spent alot of money on or maybe even lost a good chunk of money on and they still are not there. The loss of those reviews would be a deciding factor for some, including myself, on any decision to post an escort review.

[whipped guy]

Charlie is right, plus from my point of view there are very few "specialists" that are even worth hiring... in fact my last two submitted reviews (one of which has yet to be published even though it was submitted eons ago) dealt with massage and fat-free-vanilla encounters. Actually for my next scheduled encounter I plan to teach the “working guy” in question how to become a “specialist”… and this in a major market such as NYC! Actually, in retropsect, I should be charging him…

 

Perhaps there are too many guys out there (including guys who don’t have a clue) that it is more difficult to find someone with whom you can best relate. Another problem concerns the fact that many escorts are not looking for repeat business… or just not interested in fostering a long lasting client relationship. Shoot… one guy who posts frequently on this site totally ignored my email inquiries… even though he was posting 24/7… and in a most combative manner that ultimately did not make me want to deal with him. Another guy, for whom I wrote an extremely positive review, seems to have made it big and has not had time to reply to emails either. Then there was the guy for whom I also wrote a glowing review that did absolutely nothing to ensure that he was providing the services that I requested… well when he realized he screwed up he had me wait out in the street below until he got his “act” together.

 

So I guess there are a variety of factors though the problems this site recently experienced are certainly paramount in contributing to the paucity of new reviews.

[+ Gar1eth]

I would dispute that there are just as many guys as ever out there--although I am willing to be persuaded otherwise. LA is down to 164 and SF to 69 on Rentboy currently. I know that seems like a lot--but LA in the past has had 170's to 180's--and SF in the 70's. Plus I've noticed that a lot of "older" escorts ads are currently off--like Braeden in SF hasn't had his ad on for awhile. Plus I've noticed that there is an increasing contingent of LA ads without face pics--which I am not willing to chance.

 

On the other coast Premier while being very easy to work with--has had a decrease in quality (only my opinion mind you) over the last few years. They still have a few great guys who will bottom--but when I 1st started looking at Premier several years ago--long before I ever hired--they seemed to have a lot more young handsome guy next door muscular/athletic guys who were versatile or bottom. Now most of the bottoms on their site are twinks and not that handsome. In fact you can almost bet that if they introduce a muscular manly looking guy, nowadays he will be a top.

 

Maximum in NYC has some guys with great looking bodies who are versatile or bottom--but 2 complaints--no face pics--and they are extremely expensive.

 

A-list--I am not sure how current their guys are.

 

Rentboy in NYC, Miami, Ft. Lauderdale--how many of the ads are faceless--a lot--and at least for me--again mostly tops.

 

 

So maybe the lack of reviews are also partially due to the lack of people to review.

 

G

[JT Brooklyn]

JT Totally agrees with Mr Whip on this...

 

Besides almost "Zero Specialists" Available, Even in Vanilla Scenarios, Your "Average" Rentboy Guy is not worth a Repeat,

Never mind $250 an Hour for his rate!

 

Especially IF he is not the Muscle Service-Muscle Worship Working Guy Type... which apparently just by being in the same room and able to have "Body Contact" Fulfill THEIR obligations! LOL

 

No Great Chemistry though, between to people does not call for a Negative Review either, IMHO...

So most of these Guys at this point in time at least, Coast along with Mediocre Hookups and No Reviews.

 

Bottom Line...Where Have All the Hot Guys Gone? They RETIRED!!!!!

[JT Brooklyn]

JT Totally agrees with Mr Whip on this...

 

Besides almost "Zero Specialists" Available, Even in Vanilla Scenarios, Your "Average" Rentboy Guy is not worth a Repeat,

Never mind $250 an Hour for his rate!

 

Especially IF he is not the Muscle Service-Muscle Worship Working Guy Type... which apparently just by being in the same room and able to have "Body Contact" Fulfill THEIR obligations! LOL

 

No Great Chemistry though, between to people does not call for a Negative Review either, IMHO...

So most of these Guys at this point in time at least, Coast along with Mediocre Hookups and No Reviews.

 

Bottom Line...Where Have All the Hot Guys Gone? They RETIRED!!!!!

[Lankypeters]

>>

> Solution for

>me has been to stick with the guys I have known who still

>deliver great times for reasonable rates.

 

Care to tell us who makes your list?

 

Lankypeters

[Louis]

It does seem like a lot of good guys have reitired. I know a few who have. By the way I am going back to Winnipeg and have set up a meeting for Nov. 11, and resolve the problem I had in September. I will let you all know how it goes. Whether that review gets posted on Hooboy, I do not know, but I will send in a report there, and also let you guys know what happens.

Louis

[NickAtNight]

On the other coast Premier while being very easy to work with--has had a decrease in quality (only my opinion mind you) over the last few years. They still have a few great guys who will bottom--but when I 1st started looking at Premier several years ago--long before I ever hired--they seemed to have a lot more young handsome guy next door muscular/athletic guys who were versatile or bottom. Now most of the bottoms on their site are twinks and not that handsome. In fact you can almost bet that if they introduce a muscular manly looking guy, nowadays he will be a top.

 

Porn Star "Jon Eric" is back with Premier - your muscular manly type and only a Bottom.

 

Nick

http://www.premierescorts.com/past_guests_pops/jon_eric.html

[augustman]

Yes the number of reviews being posted has definitely slowed to a trickle. I know I have one sitting in limbo but the escort has well over 10 and has to wait for 30 days between reivews. However, my incentive to post has waned. First increase in number of repeat outings this year. Second the number of just average guys seems to have increased as well. Third also not pleased that last escort I posted a positive review on did not bother to acknowledge the posting. That said I am contemplating my first lousy review. It is a lot of effort to post a review properly and one wonders if it is worth it at times but certainly important to the next guy.

[JT Brooklyn]

augustman. I do think at this point in time, the only guy's who really would appreciate a Review are the Newbie's..

 

The Established Guy's are just that..Established.

 

Having a Gazillion Review's to some, especially Newbie Client's may seem a little to much Over EXPOSURE for their comfort.

 

And they will look for the more "Under the Radar" Type of Guy, who has NO Interest in being Reviewed. IMHO of course. LOL :P

[whipped guy]

Re: I am contemplating my first lousy review. It is a lot of effort to post a review properly and one wonders if it is worth it at times but certainly important to the next guy.

 

I am kicking myself for not having submitted at least a couple of "lousy reviews". We usually tend to be a "Mr. Nice Guy" and give the benefit of the doubt when things go badly... but, as you say, the consideral efforts involved to write an effective review could prove to be crucial for next guy... Plus it is what this site should be all about.

[jackhammer91406]

DID SOMETHING HAPPEN?

 

Since I don't spend as much time here as I used to, I can't say that I've noticed a change in the number of reviews. I CAN say that I am reviewing less because I am hiring less and now only hire masseurs. I have had a good deal of success hooking up through Craig's list 4 or 5 nights a week. I am also dating quite a bit through several profile sites. Both of these are the reason I no longer hire.

 

I have submitted two reviews since the new site came online. The first review was published in a timely manner. I submitted the second review this past weekend and received a note from Daddy saying he got the review and it would be published soon. I don't think I'm revealing state secrets if I add that he mentioned bringing the older reviews back online as being his current primary focus and asking for patience if my review doesn't show up immediately. If I am revealing privileged info, the moderators can alter my message to delete that info and accept my apologies for telling tales.

 

I do think Daddy and the guys have done a fine job in getting the site back up and running, and while there will always be people who find fault with anything, for my purposes, the site works just fine.

 

Thanks.

[johnnybrk25]

Its very difficult for clients to determine who's currently working from rentboy or men4rent. The ads are kept on the site as content even after the escort stops paying. Rentboy sends me several teaser emails a day about someone trying to view an ad that I'm no longer paying for. Travel ads actually for cities I'm no longer in. But a potential client hasn't any idea i'm not there if he just hits the email me button. Who knows how many guys on the sites are really working at all.

[Houston Bonfires]

RE: DID SOMETHING HAPPEN?

 

Patience being a virtue and all, that is what I am practicing at this time. I remember the sad, empty feeling of not being able to visit this site and am very grateful for all the effort Daddy put forth to return the site to my eager eyes.

 

I know that the number of daily reviews has lessened somewhat but expect that it is a temporary condition. I anticipate the days when there will be many reviews and much conversation concerning them.

 

This is still my "must-see" site every day and I am happy that it is still available after all that has happened with HooBoy's passing and the limbo of family business interests and the uncertainty that the site would or would not continue.

 

My two cents,

 

HB