Hotel contact you after checkout?

[ValleyDwellerNorth]

Tell your buddy to request not to be put on any mailing lists of any kind. Also ask to see their privacy policy. He should also use his cell phone for checking-in purposes and making reservations if that is a private cell for his use alone. I have only received one pamphlet from a hotel stay in NYC. Other than that, I haven't received anything. I don't think they do such things. Most of the time they will send promotions via email. Use an email address no one else has access to.

 

Now that my helpful side of my personality is done the nosy bitch steps in. }( Why the cloak and dagger? Is your buddy married? Is he in a relationship with another fellow and he wants to have some "fun" out of town?

 

I do appreciate the need for privacy. Having a free email account from Hotmail or Google helps when you have to give an email address to an agency, establishment, etc. that you don't want to know your real email address. The investment of a PO Box is also helpful when living life in the "shadows".

 

Now, if you shit on a lamp or leave a dildo in the microwave then yes, they will be contacting you.

[Steven_Draker]

I've spent over 100 nights in hotels so far this year and over 200 nights last year. I regularly receive emails from them after check out to thank me for the stay and also to complete a satisfaction survey. I have never received a phone call from the hotel.

 

Regarding privacy and discretion your friend can use a 'corporate' name or alias under which the reservation is made. The credit card information doesn't have to match that alias. Do not leave your phone number and use a special email addie for the reservation.

 

Hope this helps.

 

Steven Draker ~

 

http://www.hotsexystud.com/uk

http://www.male4malescorts.com/reviews/steven_draker_brussels.html

[Guest ncm2169]

< Is your buddy married?

 

Yep, and the spouse apparently has access to all his records - credit cards, bank balances, mail, etc. x(

[Guest ncm2169]

< The credit card information doesn't have to match that alias.

 

Aha! So it's like Fred Jones' credit card is paying for John Jones' room, except that cash is ultimately paid and the credit card impression is returned? }(

 

Steven, you obviously know all the shortcuts! :+

[Guest ncm2169]

< He should also use his cell phone for checking-in purposes and making reservations

 

Can you expand on that?

[ValleyDwellerNorth]

>< He should also use his cell phone for checking-in purposes

>and making reservations

>

>Can you expand on that?

 

When the hotel calls him, and his cell phone is for HIS use only, then the wife won't know what is going on. Now I feel dirty helping this guy do secret sex behind his wife. I hope she is getting some as well.

[ValleyDwellerNorth]

>< The credit card information doesn't have to match that

>alias.

>

>Aha! So it's like Fred Jones' credit card is paying for John

>Jones' room, except that cash is ultimately paid and the

>credit card impression is returned? }(

>

>Steven, you obviously know all the shortcuts! :+

 

Well, this won't matter if, as you said above, she has access to all of his records. When she sees the bill she will see the charge.

 

Overall, this sounds like you should advise your buddy to look at his relationship with his wife. Is this fair to her for him to keep living like this? I don't mean to get all Oprah here but anal sex shouldn't hurt her as well if you know what I mean. She deserves to know. Then, maybe she can find the kind of man she needs and wants and your buddy can also find the man he wants.

[OneFinger]

I travel extensively and the only phone call I've received from a hotel was when I accidentally left something behind. (The only way they knew my phone number was because I provided it to them. It was not a requirement for renting a room.)

 

If your friend wants to prevent them from contacting him, then he should definitely not sign up for their membership programs. (I belong to several membership programs for Hilton, Marriott, Starwood, etc. and earn points for each stay.) I receive monthly statements from each membership program (either via snail mail or e-mail). For your friend, that could be the kiss of death. Plus, these membership programs usually sell your info to credit card companies and they will clog your mailbox with junk.

 

But, if he pays in cash and only uses his credit card to confirm the reservation, then he shouldn't have any problems.

 

When on personal travel and I wanted to remain "somewhat" anonymous, I've made reservations using my first initial (no first name). This is very common for women travelers so the hotels are used to it. I've also provided a fictitious address that uses the same zip code as the billing address for my credit card. They usually only verify last name and zip code when using the credit card for reservation confirmation.

[Rick Munroe]

>Overall, this sounds like you should advise your buddy to look

>at his relationship with his wife. Is this fair to her for

>him to keep living like this?

 

VDN, I don't think it's anyone's business but theirs. If people keep secrets from their spouses, or if they have non-traditional relationships (open, 3-way, etc), it's their life to live and who are we (OK, I mean who are you ) to pass judgement?

 

>I don't mean to get all Oprah

>here but anal sex shouldn't hurt her as well if you know what

>I mean.

 

How do you know this guy has anal sex in the hotel rooms? And it shouldn't hurt if the top knows what he's doing. }(

 

>She deserves to know.

 

LOL You don't know her! Maybe she's a nasty bitch who has her own secrets...or maybe she's a sweet gal who knows but lets him play and pretend it's all a secret...or maybe she doesn't know but is happy. How can you say she "deserves" to know when you don't know her? Everyone doesn't deserve to know everything.

 

Now, I was blessed (not so easy, considering I'm atheist) to find Derek and to have a trusting, open, honest relationship. Sure, I think it's the best way to be, but not everybody has that, and maybe they don't want it. Maybe they're happy the way things are! :o

 

>Then, maybe she can find the

>kind of man she needs and wants and your buddy can also find

>the man he wants.

 

Maybe he is exactly the kind of man she needs and wants. Maybe he's bi and likes being married to a woman but having occasional sex with men. Again, we are all individuals, all living our own lives. You can't force everyone to comform to some ideal of how you think life should be. I don't mean this to sound harsh (typed words can sometimes seem just that) but the fact is, I used to think just like you, until I realized, after meeting many happily married men, that it really isn't any of my business, and everyone needs to just do whatever feels right for them. Besides, our brilliant "decider" is about to go nuclear so we might not have much more time to live. Let's just be happy while we can and do whatever feels right.

[Guest ncm2169]

< I don't mean to get all Oprah here

 

It's too late. You already did. x(

 

Chill, VDN. Rick has a good take on it. This is about nothing more than convering one's tail. :*

 

Something which, of course, Rick isn't into. :9

[+ deej]

>He knows that he can get the credit card impression back upon checkout

>if he pays in cash

 

Actually, I can't remember the last time a hotel took an impression. It's mostly electronic swipes these days.

[ValleyDwellerNorth]

>VDN, I don't think it's anyone's business but theirs. If

>people keep secrets from their spouses, or if they have

>non-traditional relationships (open, 3-way, etc), it's their

>life to live and who are we (OK, I mean who are you ) to

>pass judgement?

 

It doesn't sound like this is an open 3-way if he is trying to hide it from his wife. I wasn't passing judgment.

 

>LOL You don't know her! Maybe she's a nasty bitch who has

>her own secrets...or maybe she's a sweet gal who knows but

>lets him play and pretend it's all a secret...or maybe she

>doesn't know but is happy. How can you say she "deserves" to

>know when you don't know her? Everyone doesn't deserve to

>know everything.

 

I was just thinking about the dishonesty quotient going on and the lack of human dignity she is getting by not knowing her husband is having sex with another human (gender really doesn't matter at this point). Since you don't know her either then it is safe to say neither of us will know if she is oblivious to the fact her husband is lying to her or not.

 

>live. Let's just be happy while we can and do whatever feels

>right.

 

Is that tolerance or indifference? I just think it's crummy that it sounds like this woman has no clue. If your partner was doing this and then you found out via a credit card bill how would you feel? Yes, I know he would never do it ... but pretend for a moment he is capable of doing this. How would you feel if you found out.

 

Maybe she thinks her husband is completely incapable of doing this as well. Fuck a man. Fuck a woman. Fuck a cow. Fuck a Republican. I just feel honesty transcends any spiritual teaching and that it is just a human courtesy to one another in a relationship to be honest.

[ValleyDwellerNorth]

>Chill, VDN. Rick has a good take on it. This is about

>nothing more than convering one's tail. :*

 

... and ultimately hurting someone.

[ValleyDwellerNorth]

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[Guest ncm2169]

VDN, I totally respect your position here. :o :o

 

I didn't ask the question in order to turn this into a discussion of "morality." I don't object that the thread went there, but truthfully, one would have to know the intimate details of this marriage in order to assign morality, and since I only asked about hotel follow up, I am not inclined to go further. Hope you understand and I again appreciate your comments.

 

Keep those good reviews cummin! }(

[ValleyDwellerNorth]

>VDN, I totally respect your position here. :o :o

>

>I didn't ask the question in order to turn this into a

>discussion of "morality." I don't object that the thread went

>there, but truthfully, one would have to know the intimate

>details of this marriage in order to assign morality, and

>since I only asked about hotel follow up, I am not inclined to

>go further. Hope you understand and I again appreciate your

>comments.

>

>Keep those good reviews cummin! }(

 

I am remorseful for the transgression I committed of hijacking your thread.

 

Back to your original query ....

 

1) The best way for no one to find out is for your friend not to do this at all. Security cameras, the whole 7 degrees of separation thing, etc....

 

2) If that is not an option and he wants to take this risk then ask the escort to use HIS credit card to reserve the room and your friend pays the escort back in cash. I am sure any good escort worth his weight in lube could do this.

[Steven_Draker]

> Steven, you obviously know all the shortcuts! :+

 

Oh babe, don't ask me ...

 

BTW (off topic): you should try "La Belle Vie" - excellent food.

 

Steven Draker ~

[Steven_Draker]

>Aha! So it's like Fred Jones' credit card is paying for John

>Jones' room, except that cash is ultimately paid and the

>credit card impression is returned? }(

 

Usually you need to give your credit card details twice - once to guarantee your reservation and once at checking in (the hotel will make a hold for your room rate and incidentals). Make sure the let the front desk know if you have used the mini bar or any other facilities otherwise your credit card will be charged and the charge will be visible on your credit card statement. At check out just pay cash and in a few days the hotel will release the hold. This operation never appear on the credit card statement.

 

SD ~

[Guest zipperzone]

>Overall, this sounds like you should advise your buddy to look

>at his relationship with his wife. Is this fair to her for

>him to keep living like this? I don't mean to get all Oprah

>here but anal sex shouldn't hurt her as well if you know what

>I mean. She deserves to know. Then, maybe she can find the

>kind of man she needs and wants and your buddy can also find

>the man he wants.

 

I don't think you should get all preachy here. There are millions of guys worldwide that cheat on their partner. For many reasons it may not be practical or wise to "confess all" to the partner.

 

It is not our place to be judgemental - it's none of our frickin business......

[Guest zipperzone]

>I wasn't passing judgment.

 

Oh yes you were.

[bigguyinpasadena]

Like Onefinger I belong to a couple of hotel loyalty programs-and I would not think of leaving the points on the table as it were.

Both Marriott and Starwood have an opt out of smail mail for their guest.You get everything(with Marriot you can even get you checkout folio now)via email.

If the fella in question is concerned he should have a seperate CC account with either a PObox the other party does not know about or one that will do all transactions via email.

Of course none of this is foolproof-and PI's or other nosy parkers could get the goods on this fella.

I also would be worried about running into aquaintences during such trysts.I have run into friends and work aquaintences in Montreal,Rio,Las Vegas,New Orleans,and New York.

But folks have been sneakin' around for a loooooooooong time-some have been caught,most have not.

[Guest 8mile]

I side with valley on this one, as I expressed this opinion before. How does a husband stay married to a wife who doesn't give him his privacy. Obliviously there are some trust issues here and well maybe there should be, I mean the guy is cheating on his wife. However there is definitely something wrong with a relationship when half of the partnership is so paranoid about getting caught that he has his "friend" post on a message center inquiring about ways to "discretely" check into a hotel. Seems funny and totally out of character that a guy with such paranoia trust in someone to ultimately tell his friend about his problems when it comes to hiring an escort.

 

A person who stays in a relationship like the one your friend is in is basically selfish and truly has no respect for his wife's feelings. I'm not saying cheating is wrong, but do it in a healthy relationship where one doesn't have to develop CIA terms of non disclosure.

 

As Usual

Zachary

[Guest ncm2169]

I am just curious. Has anyone ever had a hotel contact them after they checked out? Not for some specific "need to contact" reason, but just for some general reason like a promotion or something?

 

I have a buddy who needs to be very discreet in hiring and he's figured out that if he checks in as John Smith it won't match the name Fred Jones on his credit card. x(

 

He knows that he can get the credit card impression back upon checkout if he pays in cash, but he's worried about how hotels use their records and doesn't want to have to answer questions about mail.

[ValleyDwellerNorth]

>I don't think you should get all preachy here. There are

>millions of guys worldwide that cheat on their partner. For

>many reasons it may not be practical or wise to "confess all"

>to the partner.

 

I don't need to be judgmental to say that murder is wrong. I am not passing judgment if I say that woman on the 5pm news who burned her baby and then threw it in a dumpster is wrong. We all pass judgments everyday. We always go into the realm of saying "don't pass judgments" when it is an action of infidelity and fuckery. I could list 5 things I did yesterday and many of you would say what I did was wrong and I shouldn't feel your passing judgment in saying so because I know they are wrong.

 

There are millions of guys worldwide who (fill in the blank ... use crack, fuck their 7 year old daughter, eat their mother's shit) BUT that doesn't mean if millions do it then it is ... well, OK. Yes, I still believe in the old saying "If your friend jumped off a bridge ....".

[ValleyDwellerNorth]

>wife's feelings. I'm not saying cheating is wrong, but do it

>in a healthy relationship where one doesn't have to develop

>CIA terms of non disclosure.

>

>As Usual

>Zachary

 

As usual, BRAVO! Is it even a relationship anymore when things have to be hidden to such a degree. Great points Zacary!