Tops who will bottom?

[MattDaniel]

I’m a complete top, and it’s frustrating when looking to hire because I find that most escorts advertise as tops or verstops, and in my head I think it won’t work because the chemistry will be off and they may not be able to bottom for me when it happens (I’m on the hung side).

 

Recently I had a conversation with an escort who told me he advertises as a top because it feeds more into the fantasy of a lot of clients that he’s straight or more masc - but that he loves to bottom and was totally game.

 

My question is, am I missing out on great encounters with great guys because I don’t even bother messaging people who list themselves as tops or verstops? Or was this guy an anomaly?

[Cliff]

From what I understand, some guys who advertise as tops actually love to bottom OR will bottom for more cash OR will bottom if the chemistry is right (aka they think the client is hot). Then again, some guys who advertise as tops will only top and there’s no changing their mind no matter what. Summary: This question can’t be answered with a universal response. Your best bet is to ask the guy ahead of time, and then again when you meet face to face. Does this make sense to everyone? It’s more or less how I see it. Cheers.

[KeepItReal]

I’m a complete top, and it’s frustrating when looking to hire because I find that most escorts advertise as tops or verstops, and in my head I think it won’t work because the chemistry will be off and they may not be able to bottom for me when it happens (I’m on the hung side).

 

Recently I had a conversation with an escort who told me he advertises as a top because it feeds more into the fantasy of a lot of clients that he’s straight or more masc - but that he loves to bottom and was totally game.

 

My question is, am I missing out on great encounters with great guys because I don’t even bother messaging people who list themselves as tops or verstops? Or was this guy an anomaly?

I am in the same boat. Yes, we may both be missing out, but I have learned to live with it. The companion is also missing out, because of false advertising. That's the way the cookie crumbles...

 

I apply a filter for bottom, versatile and versatile/bottom (to use Rentmen lingo). If I can't find a match, I may considered versatile/top and will discuss with the companion directly to ensure he is clear on my expectations. I never look at top only or ask me. On some sites you have to read between the lines (A4A).

[KeepItReal]

Recently I had a conversation with an escort who told me he advertises as a top because it feeds more into the fantasy of a lot of clients that he’s straight or more masc - but that he loves to bottom and was totally game.

By the way, I've also seen guys advertise as being "into men and women". I sometimes wonder if they are truly bi or also trying to appeal to the straight/masculine fantasy crowd...

[MikeSinz]

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[biggerbilly]

I’m a complete top, and it’s frustrating when looking to hire because I find that most escorts advertise as tops or verstops, and in my head I think it won’t work because the chemistry will be off and they may not be able to bottom for me when it happens (I’m on the hung side).

 

Recently I had a conversation with an escort who told me he advertises as a top because it feeds more into the fantasy of a lot of clients that he’s straight or more masc - but that he loves to bottom and was totally game.

 

My question is, am I missing out on great encounters with great guys because I don’t even bother messaging people who list themselves as tops or verstops? Or was this guy an anomaly?

I’m a total top too. I don’t view it as missing out at all. I don’t want to play the guessing game anymore. If you advertise as a top or top/verse, I’m going to believe you’re are one. And hire someone who advertises as versatile, bttm/verse, or bttm. You advertise for the customers you want.

 

I’m sure there are a lot of guys that are versatile than they claim. But I’m not a mind reader. I can only go by the information you give me.

 

Plus, as a top myself, I don’t like it when another top hits me up on grindr or scruff, looking for me to bottom for them. I’d be a hypocrite if I did that to someone else.

[biggerbilly]

Yes you shouldn't pass good things up

Couldn’t that be said for the versatile guy advertising as a top? How many clients is he missing out on to cater to the straight obsessed crowd? Why is it my job to play a guessing game when you can just be clear straight out? Why is bad thing to take an ad at face value? Sorry, but if you say you’re a top, you’re a top.

 

At least you’re being honest in your ads @MikeSinz, you’re versatile and open to all

[Quincy_7]

I've personally never had issues finding bottom or vers guys. Maybe it's just who I find attractive. The one time I was interested in someone who advertised as a top, he said he was willing to bottom for 2k. I'm inclined to believe that so called total tops will bottom if the money is right.

[big-n-tall]

As I have posted many times before... ask. Just simply ask. In general, the worse that can happen is you get a no or a rude no. Neither will kill you, although admittedly it may be a blow to the ego.

 

I look at it this way, two tops can still have fun together, just as two bottoms can. I'm mainly a top but will bottom if I feel comfortable enough with the person. Of all the guys I've met during this hobby, I've only bottomed for about 8. Out of those 8, 4 I have bottomed for repeatedly, but not during every encounter. I have met tops, who I know through porn or other avenues, that will bottom. So I'll ask if they'd be willing to. Some say they won't ever bottom (but sometimes don't mind being deeply rimmed or fingered), some have over time, and some have on the 1st meeting. If a guy tells me he won't ever bottom, I'll leave it at that. However, I'm not going to lie... there is nothing hotter than when a top (without me asking) tells me he finally wants to bottom for me.

 

And yes, I understand the frustration of having to weed through the people who will or won't bottom based on their ad listings. I most certainly get it. I mean there is a guy (I recently saw) who advertises as versatile. He wouldn't commit to bottoming for me until we met. So I hired him for a massage. He was very aroused during the session. After it was over I asked him would he kiss and bottom next meeting. I'm paraphrasing but his response was, "I don't kiss everyone. I don't get fucked." So why advertise as versatile? Although he was polite about it, I got the impression, during our talk, I was not his type. If I were, I'm sure he would have kissed and bottomed for me. By the same token, I have had guys tell me during the initial contact they wouldn't do certain things, but upon meeting actually did. There was this huge muscle dude who did muscle worship only and loved to kiss. He would not bottom or perform oral because he was "in a relationship"... which I was fine with. I read enough reviews about him that verified his restrictions beforehand. He never bottomed for me but surprisingly sucked me a few times. His reason for giving me head when he didn't for others... "I really like you."

 

The moral of this story... ASK. I don't necessarily rule anyone out unless I get a response that completely turns me off.

 

It's just the nature of the hobby that sometimes people are willing to do more or less with particular guys whether from chemistry, money, or what have you... no matter what they have listed in their ad. You can continually complain about it and be frustrated or come to terms with it. Figure what works best for you in dealing with the sometimes fickle nature of this hobby and people. If someone is attractive to you (and they don't say I only top don't bother to ask if I bottom) contact them and ask. If you get an answer you like meet the guy. If not, move on.

[biggerbilly]

Another thing you may want to keep in mind is that old saying, “you get what you pay for.” If you hire a guy to bottom for you that doesn’t normally do so, you maybe spending money on an inexperienced bottom.

 

I hired a verse/top once who said he was willing to bottom for me, and he indeed did so. But he was obviously not use to it. And being on the larger side of things myself, didn’t help matters. I give him a good review, because he did do what he promised, and tried his best. But, I definitely regret hiring him more and more. I spent money to go extra slow, for a so-so time, when I could have hired someone like say @Russ again, and have fun going at it like crazy. Worst yet, the guy updates his profile to make sure the same thing never happened again. You can probably find the whole story here in real time if you look back on here.

 

If you want to take the chance and ask, fine. But, make sure you keep in mind what you’re spending your money on.

[big-n-tall]

Another thing you may want to keep in mind is that old saying, “you get what you pay for.” If you hire a guy to bottom for you that doesn’t normally do so, you maybe spending money on an inexperienced bottom.

 

I hired a verse/top once who said he was willing to bottom for me, and he indeed did so. But he was obviously not use to it. And being on the larger side of things myself, didn’t help matters. I give him a good review, because he did do what he promised, and tried his best. But, I definitely regret hiring him more and more. I spent money to go extra slow, for a so-so time, when I could have hired someone like say @Russ again, and have fun going at it like crazy. Worst yet, the guy updates his profile to make sure the same thing never happened again. You can probably find the whole story here in real time if you look back on here.

 

If you want to take the chance and ask, fine. But, make sure you keep in mind what you’re spending your money on.

 

Agreed. That's why you ask and verify. If you're on the larger side and/or enjoy jackhammering, it's prudent to let your potential partner know. Assuming he can or can not take you is a bad assumption. Ask to be sure.

 

A regular of mine actually told me he considered not seeing me again after our first meeting because I was the largest guy he encountered. However, our chemistry is so amazing he didn't x me off his list. Anyway, that's when I learned when I meet someone who might not typically bottom to make sure if he'll be ok with a larger dick, not that I'm hung like a horse.

[biggerbilly]

Agreed. That's why you ask and verify. If you're on the larger side and/or enjoy jackhammering, it's prudent to let your potential partner know. Assuming he can or can not take you is a bad assumption. Ask to be sure.

 

A regular of mine actually told me he considered not seeing me again after our first meeting because I was the largest guy he encountered. However, our chemistry is so amazing he didn't x me off his list. Anyway, that's when I learned when I meet someone who might not typically bottom to make sure if he'll be ok with a larger dick, not that I'm hung like a horse.

Jackhammering is not a most for me, though very fun. What is a must is a bottom that enjoys bottoming. I agree too ask and make things clear. But, I also believe that if things are already made clear in their profiles, there’s no need go much farther.

 

Hindsight is also 20/20. At the time, I thought I had asked all I needed too. I was not aware that I was as hung as I was. And he’s responses were not very hesitant. We both learn to be a lot clearer. As I said, he updated his profile soon after. I’ve been a lot more upfront since, but sometimes you don’t realize things that you should until it’s too late.

[big-n-tall]

Jackhammering is not a most for me, though very fun.

 

I rarely jackhammer or pound excessively hard. That crap wears me out. Lol!

 

Seriously though, for the tops who ultimately bottomed for me... we always start slow. I think many like I’m willing to be patient and teach them/train their asses over time. It definitely fosters a sense of trust and builds a very strong bond. So when they’re ready to go harder/faster it feels amazing not only on a physical level but an emotion level as well.

 

But I’m getting somewhat off topic. Back to our regularly scheduled programming.

[biggerbilly]

I rarely jackhammer or pound excessively hard. That crap wears me out. Lol!

 

Seriously though, for the tops who ultimately bottomed for me... we always start slow. I think many like I’m willing to be patient and teach them/train their asses over time. It definitely fosters a sense of trust and builds a very strong bond. So when they’re ready to go harder/faster it feels amazing not only on a physical level but an emotion level as well.

 

But I’m getting somewhat off topic. Back to our regularly scheduled programming.

 

Just to stay off topic a little more, I do start of slow, to build the same levels of trust. I’m not going to start ramming a guy at stage one, or even two.

 

The problem was we never move past stage one. I was very patient with him so that he was able to get use to me. He never truly did though. Probably because he was not really a bottom. Again, I got what I paid for. A TOP to bottom.

[MikeSinz]

Couldn’t that be said for the versatile guy advertising as a top? How many clients is he missing out on to cater to the straight obsessed crowd? Why is it my job to play a guessing game when you can just be clear straight out? Why is bad thing to take an ad at face value? Sorry, but if you say you’re a top, you’re a top.

 

At least you’re being honest in your ads @MikeSinz, you’re versatile and open to all

Thank you for the compliment, I've always allowed those that have contacted me to tell me their needs and cater to them, but there are sometimes I can't cater ;-). But it is because of great people like you that recognize quality and genuineness that keep me young and rambunctious.

[MartyB]

I’m a total top too. I don’t view it as missing out at all. I don’t want to play the guessing game anymore. If you advertise as a top or top/verse, I’m going to believe you’re are one. And hire someone who advertises as versatile, bttm/verse, or bttm. You advertise for the customers you want.

 

I’m sure there are a lot of guys that are versatile than they claim. But I’m not a mind reader. I can only go by the information you give me.

 

Plus, as a top myself, I don’t like it when another top hits me up on grindr or scruff, looking for me to bottom for them. I’d be a hypocrite if I did that to someone else.

I agree. Just seems in NYC most escorts are tops. For regulars that I have seen where I do like to bottom we switch. But If I see that they classify themselves as total tops and want to be versatile I will pass on that escort. And no I'm not going to haggle. Lol

[TopVolt]

As a top myself, I like to know exactly what I'm getting into. I love power bottoms, so maybe I'm missing out some oportunities as well, although is nice when you find a bottom escort with a nice tool to play game of spades ;-)

Edited June 14, 2018 by TopVolt

[Nvr2Thick]

I'm one of those closed-minded guys who fixates on the stereotype of the total top, and can have a problem accepting a versatile top or a versatile man who happens to be very skilled in the top role. Apparently a lot of us are out there forcing some more versatile escorts to adopt the total top role for the sake of our illusions.

[+ Lance_Navarro]

I’m topping 95% of the time, so anytime that a client wants to fuck me I am DELIGHTED to throw my legs up in the air. Bring it!!!

[muscmtl]

I’m topping 95% of the time, so anytime that a client wants to fuck me I am DELIGHTED to throw my legs up in the air. Bring it!!!

 

... my hero

[Rudynate]

I'm versatile, so I have a lot of options in potential hires - any of them will work for me. I would love to hire Victor Powers. Another bottom who has really caught my interest is this guy:

 

https://rentmen.eu/SexyMattFitness

[MartyB]

I’m topping 95% of the time, so anytime that a client wants to fuck me I am DELIGHTED to throw my legs up in the air. Bring it!!!

I'll remember that!!!!!!!! LoL But if I'm not mistaken I owe you one...

[marylander1940]

I’m a complete top, and it’s frustrating when looking to hire because I find that most escorts advertise as tops or verstops, and in my head I think it won’t work because the chemistry will be off and they may not be able to bottom for me when it happens (I’m on the hung side).

 

Recently I had a conversation with an escort who told me he advertises as a top because it feeds more into the fantasy of a lot of clients that he’s straight or more masc - but that he loves to bottom and was totally game.

 

My question is, am I missing out on great encounters with great guys because I don’t even bother messaging people who list themselves as tops or verstops? Or was this guy an anomaly?

 

@Gar1eth had a similar problem.

 

Offer more money and they might do it.

[biggerbilly]

@Gar1eth had a similar problem.

 

Offer more money and they might do it.

 

I don’t support this in anyway.

[marylander1940]

I don’t support this in anyway.

 

Me neither... I was offering a way for those who desire someone they can't have out of the 2,000 (more or less) guys advertising on RM.

 

I would feel guilty of forcing a top (someone who doesn't bottom in his personal life because he doesn't like it/it's painful) for $100 but some on here might feel pleasure doing it or they just can't find a handsome bottom on RM... Then pay extra for it!